Toyota's ALL NEW Hydrogen Engine SHOCKS The Entire Car Industry!



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41 thoughts on “Toyota's ALL NEW Hydrogen Engine SHOCKS The Entire Car Industry!”

  1. I remember back in the 90s there was a tv series called something like beyond the year 2000 or something like that. I specifically remember them talking about the possibility of hydrogen powered vehicles. I’m surprised It took this long to get here but I guess they had the concept back then but maybe not the tech to support it and to make it cost effective for personal use. Be interesting to see where it goes from here.

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  2. For the cost of either of these Hydrogen fuel cell cars, you could buy a Tesla that will have a greater driving range!. Moreover, you can actually go cross country in the Tesla, as there is plenty of public charging available everywhere, but the hydrogen cars are restricted to a small portion of California, due to a severe lack of hydrogen stations. The main reason for the lack of hydrogen stations is the very high cost of installation, more than a regular gas station and considerably more than installing an electric public charging outlet.

    Also, hydrogen is a more expensive fuel, more costly than gasoline or diesel, and far more expensive than electricity. Hydrogen simply cannot compete with much cheaper electricity, it is doomed to fail, badly.

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  3. Sounds cheap for the people. Not sure if my royal majesty queen Elizabeth will like it. I guess she will just claim the hydrogen in the planet alongside shell, bp etc.

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  4. This video completely glosses over the issues with hydrogen. Currently, almost all industrial hydrogen is produced from reforming of methane with heat and pressure, a very energy inefficient process. The rest is produced by splitting water using large amounts of electricity. It is speculated that this can be done with solar and wind electricity, especially when those are not needed on the grid. There are vast efforts to improve that efficiency level, but none have shown sufficient promise to make it to the vast industrial scale needed for transportation needs.

    Then, there is handling. To be efficient, hydrogen must be stored at very high pressures or in liquid form. Since the liquid state is close to absolute zero, this is not practical from really any viewpoint. In addition, hydrogen cannot be prevented from leaking as it can move through the intermolecular spaces in all materials and it is destructive to seals. It also has the effect of embrittling most materials in which it is stored, especially metals. Embrittlement and high pressure does not mix well.

    Then there are distribution issues. Trucks to carry the stuff require great strength and great amounts of insulation, meaning that they are not very efficient. Stations will almost have to store it in liquid form to be able to store enough to be able to meet the needs of their customers, but they won't be able to dispense it in liquid form because vehicles will not be able to handle that. The station will need the equipment and energy to gasify the liquid on demand and also to either reliquify the hydrogen in storage or vent it off or generate electricity from it. The few stations that have been built have cost many millions more than regular gas stations and I see no massive movement to build large numbers of them, especially away from major cities where the strong need may be.

    The only promising form of hydrogen that I have seen has been profiled by Sandy Munro and others and that is hydrogen stored as a hydride on a film and released by a laser for use with fuel cells. That form is stabile and is stored at room temperature and can be easily and safely stored and transported. Whether it reaches mass market penetration is unknown, but it at least answers most of the major objections. What I do know is that pumping gaseous hydrogen at extreme pressure into vehicles is never going to be reasonable.

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  5. They have to put up station network hydrogen station network nationwide on all the interstates on all the highways where people are where people go where people camp where people might take that car and that is the limitation that’s always been the reason Tesla sells best

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  6. No more dangerous than a normal car, really? Crashes happen and when a tank of gas under pressure is ruptured the gas expands tremendously, so if an ignition source is nearby, well boom. That is not the same as a tank of gasoline which may leak and spread but not violently like a gas under pressure. And just how do you produce hydrogen gas to compete economically with electricity, isn't electricity used to make hydrogen gas? What will be the cost of filling a hydrogen tank compared to the electric recharge? That and how long until battery technology, like the nuclear diamond battery (if it exists) outstrips whatever edge hydrogen has over electric? Not buying it until these issues are covered.

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  7. Hydrogen seems like a much more practical solution, especially for trucks, than EV. The new Ford Lightning has only 39 miles of range before it’s done when towing a 10k trailer. Pretty ridiculous.

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  8. What about green ammonia conversion to hydrogen ? Do it onboard. You can run piston engines this way. Ships already do it. Green ammonia is snatched from the atmosphere. Cost of less than $1 per gallon.

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  9. This is impressive.

    My company in the past shared a building with Quantum Technologies. They were pushing hard to develop a hydrogen fueling network and made a bunch of vehicle converted to use hydrogen and there was a LOT of hydrogen stored in the building. That whole thing fizzled. Seemed you just could not carry enough hydrogen to get any where and it is expensive to produce. It takes a lot of electricity to make hydrogen.

    All of the other OEMs could not get hydrogen to work and have gotten away from it.

    Everyone has been very puzzled that Toyota has been dumping so much money into hydrogen when everyone else is running away from it. I have had conversations with engineers that once were working on it and they keep saying the numbers don't work, but can't explain what Toyota is doing. Seems Toyota has figured something out.

    I am wondering how the numbers really work when making hydrogen and converting it to electrical power in the vehicle as opposed to just storing the electricity directly. Seems hydrogen is just adding another layer to the process.

    Anyway, interesting stuff.

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  10. Not the brightest idea – first use electricity to get the hydrogen and pressurize it. Then use the power-cell to transform it into electricity again. Finally, use electricity to power an electric motor. How much energy is lost in all these steps?

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  11. Worth mentioning that Hydrogen requires wast amount of energy to produce. And when most big countries burn coal and oil to produce power, Hydrogen isn't exactly environmentally friendly.

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  12. Currently range is constrained by the very limited number of filling stations. You are tethered to a short radius from the limited number of filling stations in Calfornia. Electric cars are just as quiet as Hydrogen cars, so this does not bear mentioning. What is not mentioned is the cost of the fuel. Most Hydrogen cars currently come with a free fill option for a number of years. Once that runs out you will pay multiple times more than a gas fill. Hydrogen leaks from the tank, and if you do not use your car for a period of time while it is sitting in your driveway you may find yourself with no fuel and a tow to a filling station – unless you can use the batteries to get you there.

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  13. Yeah this was a reality 30 uears ago. Should have been but everutime people tried to push forward with these designs they always coincidentally turned up dead before.they could get the ball rolling.

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  14. My opinion of hydrogen cars is they will be superior to electric cars in terms of extended range. All of the technology needed for hydrogen cars is now completely available these days. And it keeps getting better. Don't get me wrong electric cars have a place but I don't see them being completely viable for long distance trips. Certain industries have shoved this electric car shit in our faces simply because it benefits "their personal interest soley".
    I believe electric cars are great for inner city short distance driving to & from work. However when it comes to long distance driving whether for long distance trucker style shipping or simply taking the family out of state on vacation I believe hydrogen cars will have the upper hand for very long distance driving. It's a matter of "who & what industries stand in the way of fully adopting hydrogen vehicles for their true viability for superior distance travel. Look back & read what certain tycoons such as Thomas Edison did to the likes of Nikola Tesla who invented Alternating current & more astonishing inventions of which were later proven to be superior to Edison's Direct current which has its place but Not for long distance transmission of electricity. Which Ironically is what we have here before us with the whole electric car craze stupidity that "Investors" & the companies whom are over selling electric cars because they can sell the idea of green conservation which is simply not entirely reliable nor completely true. We still also have a slowly dying industry of Oil & all of its far reaching tentacles of businesses that heavily depend on oil & what not to provide energy to the public at large. These old monster legacy industries have deep pockets & politicians in their payroll even with all the eco-nut jobs pushing their all electric non-sense. These industries after all killed off many people & patents bought off, locked & thrown away never to be seen again. So that the one inventor whom for example invented back in the 70's of all things a dirty carburetor that could obtain 100 miles to the gallon!. Yes this was real but it got squashed from the publics eyes. Why because some people in the industry didn't want this out as it could have squashed their profit margins. That folks is similarly what is happening today. But we are smarter & hopefully wiser & should push for hydrogen cars as they have a place alongside electric cars to thrive.

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  15. ince there are ICE that can use hydrogen as energy source, it is misguiding to distinguish electric cars using batteries as 'electric' and those using hydrogen fuel cells as 'hydrogen'. I guess that being both EV's, they should be distinguished as 'battery' EV's and 'hydrogen' EV's. On the other hand, as many before have commented, so far unfortunately there are too many economical and technical issues involved that deprive the high pressure liquified hydrogen EV's of realistic competitivity to make them a viable massive alternative.

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  16. Odd that Toyota investing so much in hydrogen power. Hydrogen powered vehicles are just not as efficient as BEV's. Additional processes and complexity of storage makes it expensive and a non starter.
    The only current advantage over BEV is recharge time but as we all know BEV recharge times have been reduced massively already and will continue to do so.

    I just don't understand what Toyota are playing at. 'Self charging' hybrids powered by unicorn dust and hydrogen power – they could have produced amazing slightly more affordable BEV's than other manufacturers!

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