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What do you think about this? Is Mansa Musa The greatest King of Mali or is his hype only fueled by our modern capitalistic values? Let me know in the comments below.
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musa bought the ordinary people with his gold, this is not an inspiring story. its all ego, which is always fragile. I feel this is much exaggerated, maybe through historians bought by that same money.
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He had slaves
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The claim that 'there were Black Africans when Christopher Colombus visited the Americas' is premised on a misinterpretation of a summary of Christopher Columbus' voyages, which is detailed in Bartolomeo De Las Casas *Historia de las Indias*. According to De Las Casas, Columbus stated the following as a reason for why the Portuguese monarchy should fund his third voyage to the Caribbean:
> pensaba experimentar lo que decian los indios de esta Española, que habian venido á ella, de la parte del Austro y del Sueste, gente negra, y que trae los hierros de las açagayas de un metal que llaman guianin, de lo cual habia enviado á los Reyes hecho el ensayo, donde se halló que de las triena y dos partes, las diez y ocho eran de oro, y las seis de plata, y las ocho de cobre.
> was thinking to investigate that which the Indians of Hispaniola said, that there had come to Hispaniola, from parts South and Southeast, black people, and that they brought spears/javelins tipped with a metal they call *guianin*, from which [Columbus] had sent to the Kings to be tested, where it was discovered that of the thirty parts, eighteen were of gold six were of silver, and eight were of copper.
– from Historia de las Indias, Volume 2 – Bartolomeus De Las Casas, edited by Fuensanta Del Valle & Sancho Rayon, 1875, page 226, as translated by u/400-Rabbits.
Colombus wanted to motivate the Portuguese monarchy to fund his third voyage, and in part he succeeded in motivating this by suggesting there was a gold-bearing landmass to the south / southeast of the Caribbean, the riches of which would ostensibly fall under 'Portuguese territory', according to the Treaty of Tordesillas'. The territory Colombus was referring to was probably what is today Venezuela or Brazil. The Carribean, meanwhile, was ostensibly a 'Spanish territory', according to the Treaty of Tordesillas.
As u/400-Rabbits explains, neither De Las Casas nor Columbus are saying they actually saw Black people, let alone Black Africans, in the Americas; this is a second-hand account from indigenous people filtered through the Spanish. Also note that they are not saying "African"; rather, they, the indigenous Carribeans, are only describing a skin color as 'black', which in the context of the indigenous Americas does not have the same ethnic connotations as the modern usage, which is typically associated with Black African phenotypes.
As explained by u/400-Rabbits, It's not uncommon in early European travel journals to find descriptions of indigenous people using "white" or "black" in ways that merely indicate lighter or darker skins than the Europeans themselves, or than other people they encounter.
For example, early Dutch travelers also called the Asian Indians 'swart' or 'black', simply due to their dark skin colour and not to suggest some ethnic association with Africans.
For another example, u/400-Rabbits also notes how Columbus described the indigenous people of Venezuela as:
> no negros, salvo mas blancos que otros que haya visto en las Indias
> not black, but whiter than any other Indians that I had seen
– Christopher Colombus – Select letters of Christopher Columbus, with other original documents, relating to his four voyages to the New world translated by Major 1870, page 120.
I support the notion of making indigenous African history more popular, but this should not come at the detriment of other indigenous peoples' histories. When you suggest that the Carribeans could only have acquired guanin gold from Africa, you erase the history of the indigenous South Americans who indeed mined, manufactured, and traded gold with the indigenous Carribeans.
As explaineed by u/400-Rabbits, the metal which De Las Casas mentions in the trade between the indigenous Carribeans of Hispaniola and the indigenous 'negra gentes' (dark people) of South America, iscalled *guanín*, a transliteration of the idigenous Carib word for a distinctive alloy of gold mixed with other metals, which is actually well known to archaeologists. There's no evidence of smelting in the Caribbean islands, so it must have come from somewhere else. Connections running up from the South American coast along the Antilles are clear in the archaeological record, and it should not be surprising that Martinón-Torres et al. 2012, available at: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278416512000268 have found that some of the few surviving guanín items found on Caribbean islands closely resemble items found on the South American mainland both in style and in chemical composition. The South American coast is, not coincidentally, south/southeast from Hispaniola.
So, as u/400-Rabbits explains:
"we have a secondhand Spanish account of a Caribbean people saying they knew of some people to the South/Southeast who had items made of a particular alloy of gold which was highly prized in the Caribbean. To the South/Southeast of these Caribbean people is South America, where there are people with a tradition of making gold alloy items. Surviving examples of these items from the Caribbean show stylistic links to items from South America, and chemical analysis of the Caribbean artifacts also point towards a South American origin of the metals. There is no need, and no space, to insert Africans into this."
Source: u/400-Reddits, r/AskHistorians on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/s/ipIOLE15u3
Of course he had a dark side because he belonged to the religion of fake peace they have to hold slaves and oppress anyone who doesn't believe in their ways
“With his lavish spending and generosity in Cairo, (Mansa Musa) ran out of money and had to borrow at high rates of interest for the return journey. Ibn Battuta says that Mansa Musa borrowed 50,000 dinars from Siraj al-Din ibn al-Kuwayk, a rich merchant from Alexandria, after he had spent all his wealth.”
– Abbou 2020, Mansa Musa’s journey to Mecca and its impact on western Sudan
Nobody's perfect
There were also sailors who came with Columbus that wrote in their own diaries that “ once we reached the new land, the faces on the shores were no different than that of the moors or Ethiopians”…
Did Mansa Musa even exist let alone being the richest man in the world?
Mansa Musa was just silly. You do not forsake your identity for foreign one for that is your DNA. Nor Christianity or Islam is a black man’s religion at all!
Is it possible that mansa musa was a moor?
"Lord of the mines." King Solomon's mines???
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I love this kind of videos. It's a great idea to add other history beside egyptology. 🫶👏👏👏💕✨
Thank you for this video. I wish Mansa Musa did not draw so much attention to the wealth that he had. Seems like not being cautious and protective around those who are strangers was an ancient issue up to today.
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He robbed his people, destroyed their culture and taking all the wealth to the arabs. One of the nastiest sellouts along with najashi – Aksum.
Wait, you didn't mention the fact that he was a MASSIVE slave owner?
Evidence was probably burned, locked away, or on display.
Check this out they are trying to make Mansa Musa White on Google check it out they have made him white they refuse was there hurt racist white feelings to believe richest man in history was black difference between Us and Them they celebrate their tyrants like Henry the 8th who killed his wives by having them beheaded
Can you do a video on the Almaravids empire.. at 5:36 you have a picture of the founder Abu-Bakr ibn Umar he and his cousin founded that empire and concord parts of spain. Mashallah
He was a king, it’s not individual wealth he ‘owned’. It could be said that the kings of modern arabia would have access to trillions of dollars of public money. Even disputing the worth of modern money versus gold, they hold the reaources that the world wants. I get the reexamining of history but refuse to be proud of a king. Its people that have power. Dont fall into the trap of hero worship
This is some of the history they don’t want taught. They want us to continue to believe all the historical lies about the continent of Africa and our heritage as black peoples who once ruled this planet. 🌍
Musa was a immoral slave trader! He and his ilk were scumbags!
Excellent work brother.
They're still using misdirection when the commentator said, Columbus thought he had found India. He literally did arrive in Asia (Major). He was following Moorish ships and had Moors on board who knew the route.
Keep saying Sub-Saharan!!! I will not deny my Africanist to make others comfort!!! We have nothing to be embarrassed about!!! We will rebrand ourselves with positivity like always❤️💛💚✊🏾🖤
Imagine slaves being adorned with gold… That was epic indeed.
I am not a fan of Mansa Musa because he adopted a foreign religion that undermined the native religion, he was a slave trader and e gave freegold to foreigners.
That's the problem black people like to Floss to much even back then.
Thank you Mr.Imhotep for educating us on another great black man, this is who Denzel Washington should be doing a movie about not Hannibal.
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IN THE TIME OF MANSA MUSA WAS NO RELIGION KAL ISLAM !! LIES LIES LIES LIES × LIES LIES !! ISLAM IS ABOUT 300 YEARS OLD !!!STOP LAYING!! TO PROMOT THE F…. RELIGION SATANIC..
You say his empire was unknown. Then you say he traveled with much silk. I thought China had monopoly on silk production. Was Mali an independent silk producer? If they got silk in mass from China they were certainly well known.