The Pagan Origins of Cessationism 9 | Daniel Kolenda: Off The Record



In Episode 9 of the “Heresy of Cessationism” series, Daniel delves into the history behind cessationism, drawing inspiration from John Wesley’s response to Conyers Middleton. The episode challenges the cessationist stance, revealing its potential to undermine fundamental Christian beliefs. It emphasizes the dangers of a rigid, Procrustean interpretation of scripture and urges listeners to reevaluate their views on the supernatural within Christianity.

To view the previous parts of this series about “The Heresy of Cessationism” visit:

The Heresy of Cessationism 1 (The Scriptures)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=M8fr1ovkPeA

The Heresy of Cessationism 2 (A Cascade of Lies)
https://youtu.be/M8fr1ovkPeA

The Heresy of Cessationism 3 (Has Prophecy Ceased?)
https://youtu.be/llQjh9QpWxA

The Heresy of Cessationism 4 (Have Tongues Ceased?)
https://youtu.be/GlpTQtvP0FU

The Heresy of Cessationism 5 (Gifts of Healings)
https://youtu.be/tgTvugkuhYg

The Heresy of Cessationism 6 (Evidence of Modern Miracles)
https://youtu.be/8qX-CQRHnOs

The Heresy of Cessationism 7 (Miracle Workers)
https://youtu.be/okg0-YifH_0

The Heresy of Cessationism 8 (More Calvinist Than Calvin)
https://youtu.be/Z_Otye072bM

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21 thoughts on “The Pagan Origins of Cessationism 9 | Daniel Kolenda: Off The Record”

  1. I am so enjoying this series. I realized that I have been listening to Cessationists(some of them in that conference) I stopped listening and reading my bible more. It causes double mindedness. I believe God is the same Yesterday, Today and forever. Thank you Daniel.

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  2. Hey Daniel! I want to share a testimony with you. A few months ago you were speaking at Virginia Beach Alive. A friend of mine who works for CFAN said he could sneak me into your meet and greet so I decided to make the drive down to the event. Sadly because your flight got delayed, I wasn't able to actually meet you, but I figured there had to be a reason the Holy Spirit brought me to that event. During the healing altar call later that night I noticed a woman go up for healing who did not get healed and looked sad. I felt like the Holy Spirit told me he wanted to heal her and press in, so I went up to her and asked if I could pray for her. It took 45 minutes total of prayer, but around every 10 minutes a new symptom went away. I had only seen my first healing just a week prior to this. THANK YOU for teaching about the continuation of the gifts. It's has blessed me immensely

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  3. I’m a cessationist, I completely believe God can and does heal today. He has healed me and He has healed others through my direct prayers. When I hear about miracle stories coming from whacky charismatics or those in the hyper charismatic/NAR movement, my first response is never to say “that never happened”, but my response is never to just openly praise God for performing a miracle which I don’t know if He actually did, especially when I don’t trust the movement where the claim is coming from. So… because I believe God can do miracles whenever He pleases, I usually respond with, “If that’s true, then praise God for that”. So yes, I’m skeptical of certain claims in charismatic movements, as we should all be, even you. It’s foolishness to accept and believe any and every miracle claim without using wisdom and discernment. That being said, i’m a lot less skeptical when cessationists claim healing and miracles, I believe them more easily because they’re not caught up in a false signs and wonders movement as many in the NAR are.

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  4. Fantastic talk! I am looking forward to further episodes.

    My cousin had a son who was thirty-eight-years old who had the mentality of a 6-year-old due to problems at birth. When talking to him on the phone it sounded like you were talking to a first grader. Everyone called him Little Marty.

    One day he called me and was crying. I asked what was wrong, and in his sweet, crying voice he told me that he had stepped on something and injured his foot. I told him to put his mother (my cousin) on the phone. She filled me in on what had happened and said that he needed surgery, but they did not have the money. She said his foot was swollen to twice its normal size and was black and blue and that he had been crying for two days. Clearly, he was in great pain. I felt faith and compassion rise in me, so I told my cousin to put him back on the phone.

    I asked him if he wanted Jesus to heal him and he asked, "will Jesus do that?" I told him to go outside and hobble around while talking to his foot. This really got his attention. He asked, "What do I say to my foot?"

    I told him to say "foot, by the stripes of Jesus you are healed." He said he would.

    A half hour later, his mother called and was ecstatic. She said his foot had gone back to its original size and that all bruising was gone! She said, "his foot is as pink as his other one."

    All of us who took care of him marveled at what God had done. Then the scripture came to me "Why marvel ye at this?" Acts 3:12. We should all be like Littel Marty, a thirty-eight/six-year-old. He went back to his simple world and never even marveled at his own healing, he just simply believed and received. He never hurt again.

    In his childlike mind he did not doubt that Jesus would heal him, he just obeyed the word.

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  5. I've never heard this back story before. Revealing. Is there also a connection between this and atheism, and that which is enshrined in the practice of science?. Do other key thinkers reference this book's discovery? Wesley's response is really apt. Didn't think I'd ever want to find out more about him. I tend to lump a lot of these people together in the too time-consuming to unravel category.

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  6. Only halfway through and can’t thank God enough for this message and teaching. Can’t wait to deep dive more in this series you got going. God bless brother and keep up the good fight! Even with all this complicated theology, the simplicity of the gospel is of crucial importance, that our Savior Jesus of Nazareth saved us from our sin on the cross and having victory over death in His resurrection. ✝️

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  7. Thank you Daniel. Very interesting deep dive in history.
    I honestly never understood cessasionism. If miracles dont happen, God is dormant, and i am misserable sinner, where’s the difference between christianity and islam and all other religions?
    I love that real christianity is so unique, like no other belief. We dont have only God, but Friend, Father, Lover of our souls. We have someone who isnt distant but he is with us❤

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  8. wow! A fascinating, enlightening and intellectually stimulating lecture. Just happened upon this and I know you're an evangelist so I was pleasantly surprised and appreciative of how you see cessationism in light of church history going way back and that you're a student of global European church history, not just seeing this topic through recent western, particularly the N. American evangelicalism and charismatic timeline. God bless your ministry and your outreach to christians that want to understand these things and are asking pertinent questions during this chaotic, confusing time in church history

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