The Importance of the Rapture | Tommy Ice

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48 thoughts on “The Importance of the Rapture | Tommy Ice”

  4. Just started this, so not sure if he covers this topic or not, but one thing I hardly hear people discuss, is Romans 7:14-25, Ephesians 4:30, and the mark of the beast.

    Romans 7:14-25 is possibly the clearest passage of Scripture that describes "once saved always saved". Along with Ephesians 4:30.
    If we, flawed, sin-filled human beings are here during the Tribulation to even have the option to take the mark, then that contradicts and negates the clear, biblical "once saved always saved" doctrine

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  10. Thank you for sharing. Much appreciated. Too many Pastors are not where they need to be to Preach much less share in depth prophecy, or rapture teaching. God Bless you for sharing. Praying for the lost and hoping this reaches who it is intended to reach.

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  13. Romans 1:16

    For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

    1 Corinthians 1:18

    For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

    Titus 2:13

    13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ

    (1 Corinthians 15:1–4). THE GOSPEL OF YOUR SALVATION THAT SAVES YOU BY BELIEVING, PAUL SPEAKING

    This is the only Gospel that can save your soul today there is no other

    Moreover, brethren, I declared unto you the Gospel which I preached unto you,

    which also you have received, and wherein you stand, by which also you are saved

    if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless you have believed in vain.

    For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received,

    how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures,

    And that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

    1 Thessalonians 2:13 KJV

    “For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us,

    ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.”

    Romans 2:16 paul speaking

    16 in the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

    2 Corinthians 5:21

    21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

    Ephesians 2:8-9

    For by grace, you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

    The gospel is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes (Romans 1:16).

    2 Timothy 1:9

    9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

    2 thes 2:13-15 CHOSEN TO SALVATION

    13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

    14 whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

    SALVATION It is not based on human traditions, rituals, or works, but on the finished work of Christ on the cross.

    He died for our sins, was buried, and rose again on the third day, according to the Scriptures (1 Corinthians 15:1-4).

    Romans 8:28-30 Called

    28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

    29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

    30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

    NO HUMAN WORKS is allowed in salvation.

    No Confessing JESUS AS LORD TO BE SAVED, NO WATER BAPTISM that is not the gospel

    NO ASKING JESUS INTO YOUR HEART TO BE SAVED THATS NOT THE GOSPEL

    WE ARE NOT SAVED BY FOLLOWING THE LEVITICAL LAW OF THE OLD TESTAMENT! TO BE SAVED

    Its Not Turning From Our SINS And Then Believe The Gospel thats adding a work to the gospel

    NOR ARE WE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE LAW AFTER WE ARE SAVED! TO STAY SAVED

    SALVATION IS OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST FOR ALL WHO "BELIEVE" THE GOSPEL 1 COR 15:1- 4 KJV

    BASED ON THE DEATH, BURIAL, & PHYSICAL RESURRECTION OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

    Ephesians 1:13–14

    13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

    14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.

    Romans 8:2 ESV

    For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.

    Romans 5:9 amplified

    Therefore, since we are now justified (acquitted, made righteous, and brought into right relationship with God) by Christ's blood, how much more [certain is it that] we shall be saved by Him from the indignation and wrath of God.

    Colossians 1:20 The Blood Of Jesus

    20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

    Revelation 1:5 THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST

    5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood,

    Ephesians 1:7 The Blood Of Jesus

    7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace

    Pauls strong message to those that preach another gospel

    If any religion or church or person teaches or adds anything to the gospel of our lord and Saviour Jesus Christ to be saved, they and all who believe in them and trust in them according to Paul they are accursed. (damned).

    What happens if we or an Angel From Heaven Preach a different Gospel then Paul preached. Paul preached the Gospel by revelation of Christ.

    (Galatians 1:1-12) Paul Was Taught The Gospel By Jesus Himself

    I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ

    unto another Gospel: Which is not another, but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

    But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

    As we said before, so I say now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you then that ye have received, let him be accursed.

    But I certify you, brethren that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

    For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it

    but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

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  14. It will not NOT be years (maybe ) between the Rapture till the start of Tribulation, at the most weeks to months , you need to study the Galilean wedding , the wedding is 7 days not 8,9, or 10

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  17. I believe Jesus was referencing something not yet disclosed in Matt 24:35, after the pause and "but". He'd just painted a rough scene of the Tribulation to these disciples. Their eyes had to be wide open. Then He changes His tone of voice, looks at them and says , " but My Words will by no means pass away". The full disclosure was set at a special meal, in John 14:1-3. These are the words he was referencing to them in Matt 24:35. The whole tone of his discourse changes. He tells not all will perish as in Noahic Judgment, and speaks of one taken and one left Vs all. And He emphasizes before that judgment in 38. He tells of two side by side working and the actual witnessing of the departure by one left behind. It will not be in secret, but while with others about them.
    This breaks tradition, sometimes that's not all bad. Just don't read words, see how Jesus interacted with them in care and comfort. He didn't tell all at Matt 24, the rest was soon to come and they would remember it all.

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  21. Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin [from global judgment], to those who eagerly await Him….For in a very little while, He who is coming will come, and will not delay. Heb 9:28; 10:37

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  26. Prophecy Watchers and the Pre-tribulation Research guys are REALLY good and ALWAYS worth watching!

    The RAPTURE is definitely in the Bible, but it's admittedly kinda vague, and I think it is on purpose because the Lord doesn't want to give the enemy an exact timeframe to keep him off balance. Obviously when it comes, he will get busy, but he can't get ready (too ready) until it happens. I also suspect that there will be at least a few years after the rapture before the tribulation can get started. Maybe not, but the adversary will have to have a certain amount of time to get his game on.

    Never can tell, but it seems to be necessary that the antichrist will have to have a certain amount of time to rise up to prominence and power, and it will probably be the rapture and the world's reaction to it that will help him to do that. 🙏✝️👑✝️🙏

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  29. I wonder when this was recorded? I’ve heard a number of our prophecy friends talk about Tommy ice, but I’ve never heard him speak before. I don’t even know if he’s still living but he’s very thorough and clear and it’s interesting to know that he was friends with Hal Lindsay.

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  32. When we hold to the pre-tribulation rapture view, it in effect derails our ability to properly discern the chronology of end time events in scripture in respect to the olivet discourse and the Revelation. The entire basis for the seven year tribulation view is based on the misinterpretation of Daniel 9:27. The entire message brought from God by Gabriel to Daniel, concerns Israel and the first and second advent of the Lord. It has nothing whatsoever to do with a future antichrist. The antichrist is mistakenly identified as the “prince” (small “p”) in verse 26. There is in fact no capitalization in Hebrew that would imply a difference between Prince and prince. The translators made an incorrect assumption that the small p referred to the antichrist of Daniel chapter 8. Secondly, in English grammar, the first mention of a proper noun in a paragraph is thereafter followed by a personal pronoun each time the proper noun is referenced, until a new proper noun is introduced. So without the introduction of a new proper noun, we know that the entire passage is about the Messiah the Prince. Thirdly, the “people of the prince” does not refer to armies or people of the antichrist, but rather it refers to the people of Messiah the Prince, the Jews. At the time when the jews rejected their messiah, they were in complete rebellion against all religious and governmental authority. Ultimately, their 66-70 AD insurrection, brought the ire and power of the roman government to bear at which time Jerusalem and the temple were in effect destroyed. Josephus records in “The Wars of the Jews; V. 6. 2," “the Jewish sedition destroyed the city and the Romans destroyed the sedition”. Josephus blamed his own people for the destruction of Jerusalem. The abomination of desolation happened at the same time when the temple was destroyed. Fourthly, we know that the 70th week of Daniel has been taught for decades to be the seven year tribulation period, also known as Jacob’s troubles. But a careful review of Daniel 9:26, shows clearly that the Lord was cut-off at the cross in the middle of the 70th week. “And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off,”. In other words, after the 69th (7 + 62) week ended the 70th week immediately followed. The 70th week began at the Lord’s baptism and anointing when His earthly ministry began, which lasted 3 1/2 years, or one half of the 70th week. The second half of the 70th week, 3 1/2 years, begins at the seventh seal of Revelation chapter 8. Finally, at the Lord’s crucifixion, He completely fulfilled all scripture concerning the law and the requirement for daily blood sacrifices, and in “the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease”. Thereafter there was no purpose for the temple to continue to exist, as we as believers, have become the temple of God. Any future temple to be built will truly be an abomination to God as it will be an open declaration that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ is wholly and unequivocally rejected by the Jews. We are in the tribulation now, and have been since the first century. If the tribulation is in the future, and only seven years long, how can we explain the tribulation and persecution of the last 2000 years, beginning with the crucifixion of the Lord, the torture and killing of the apostles, the burning at the stake of so many early church leaders and bible teachers and the universal persecution, torture and killing of christians and jews, right up to, and continuing today. What about the false prophets, false teachers, false religions, world wars, cold wars, atomic bombs, the threat of nuclear annihilation, racial violence, ethnic cleansing, mass genocide, the use of chemical weapons, concentration camps, world wide terrorist attacks, severe earthquakes, flooding tsunamis, third-world famines, devastating pestilence and disease, riots, uprisings, and wars in nearly every country on the planet. And still christians and jews are being tortured and murdered everyday somewhere in the world. Bottom-line, there is no future seven year tribulation. It cannot be found in the old or new testament scriptures. What you can find is tribulation from the first century to the 21st century, followed by the rapture.

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  34. Tommy !!! Tune into Sid Roth's show… all his guests bounce up and down from earth to heaven,, some on a daily bases….. Jesus gives music lessons and everything in between… and those people you say question the rapture… well they are not on Sid's show……………lol

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  44. How refreshing it is to listen to a comprehensive explanation of the rapture. But sad for those believers who say we go through the tribulation. Joy knowing that they will be well happy if it does in our lifetime though ❤

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  45. Do those who deny the Rapture because the word "harpazo" is not found in the Scriptures, also deny the Trinity because that specific word does not appear in the Scriptures?!!

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  46. 🎺‼️🎺‼️🎺‼️🎺‼️🎺‼️🎺‼️🎺
    Exactly when the “The Gathering Together” is taking Place. Scripture confirming scripture with many cross references. Can’t deny the WORD being true.

    – [x] Revelation 6:12-15
    – [x] Matt 24:29-31
    – [x] Mark 13:24-27
    – [x] Luke 21:25-28
    – [x] Joel 2:10&11 and 30-31
    – [x] Acts 2:19-21

    What is the exact comparison in chronological order?
    A) The sun will be darkened
    b) The moon will not give its light
    C) The stars will fall from Heaven
    D) The powers of the Heavens will be shaken
    E) On the earth.
    F) The sea and the waves.
    G) In Joel there is a Great and TERRIBLE day AND a Great and AWESOME day of the Lord. It will be awesome for the ones who are raptured but it will be terrible for the ones who stays behind.
    H) Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in Heaven.
    H) God Have NOT appointed us to WRATH but to OBTAIN SALVATION.
    I) In Joel 2 God even talked about the Earthquake mentioned in the sixth seal BEFORE The Day of The Lord.
    J)The Day of God’s WRATH is announced in Rev 6:16&17 “Fall on us and hide us from the face of HIM who sits on the throne and FROM THE WRATH of the LAMB! For THE GREAT DAY OF HIS WRATH HAS COME, and who is able to stand?”
    K) 1 Thess 5:9-11 For God HATH NOT APPOINTED US TO WRATH, but to OBTAIN SALVATION by our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
    L) Psalms 119:160, John 17:17, Psalm 138:2. The SUM of Thy Word is truth and God’s WORD is magnified above His Name.

    Our opinions doesn’t matter. The is not a secret PreTrib Rapture.
    We will still be here UNTILL the 6th seal and we arrive in Heaven in Revelation 7:9-17.

    ONCE YOU SEE IT YOU CAN’T UNSEE IT.
    🎺🎺🎺🎺🙌🎺💃🕺🎺🙌🎺🎺🎺🎺

    Jesus told us exactly when the Rapture will take place – look at the Seventh colour. It’s chronologically repeated in 6 chapters – who can deny JESUS’s own WORDS?

    Exactly how Jesus taught.

    Jesus explained the first 6 seals in Chronological order and then ended with the parable of the Fig tree.

    PRINT THE FOLLOWING 10 Chapters on paper to make it easier to see but Jesus Told us exactly when The Rapture will be, not the day and hour but do this and see for yourself. No human opinion added, no theology nor doctrines. Just the Word of our Almighty God. Keep these chapters side by side and see what Jesus said.

    Take 7 different colour pencils or highlighters and underline or highlight the verses as suggested – ONCE YOU SEE IT YOU CAN’T UNSEE IT.

    Matthew 24,
    Mark 13,
    Luke 21,
    2 Thessalonians 2,
    1 Thessalonians 4,
    1 Corinthians 15,
    Revelation 6,
    Joel 2,
    Acts 2,
    2 Timothy 3

    First colour – A
    – [x] Matt 24:27-28
    – [x] Mark. 13:26
    – [x] Lukas 21:27
    – [x] 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
    – [x] 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18
    – [x] 1 Corinthians 15:52

    Second colour – B – First Seal
    – [x] Revelation 6:1-2
    – [x] Matthew 24:5
    – [x] Mark 13:6
    – [x] Luke 21:8
    – [x] 2 Thessalonians 2:3
    – [x] 2 Timothy 3:1-9

    Third colour – C – Second Seal
    – [x] Revelation 6:3-4
    – [x] Matthew 24:6
    – [x] Mark 13:7
    – [x] Luke 21:9-10

    Fourth colour – D – Third Seal
    – [x] Revelation 6:5-6
    – [x] Matthew 24:7
    – [x] Mark 13:8
    – [x] Luke 21:11

    Fifth colour – E – Fourth Seal
    – [x] Revelation 6:7-8
    – [x] Matthew 24:8
    – [x] Mark 13:9-11,13
    – [x] Luke 21:12-15, 17-19

    Sixth colour – F – Fifth Seal
    – [x] Revelation 6:9-11
    – [x] Matthew 24:8
    – [x] Mark 13:12-14
    – [x] Luke 21:16-18

    Seventh colour – G (exactly when the Rapture is taking Place). – Sixth Seal.

    – [x] Revelation 6:12-15
    – [x] Matt 24:29-31
    – [x] Mark 13:24-27
    – [x] Luke 21:25-28
    – [x] Joel 2:10&11 and 30-31
    – [x] Acts 2:19-21

    Think about the following questions AFTER you’ve done the exercise.

    – [ ] Why does what Jesus said about The Rapture look Exactly the same as the events in Revelation 6 – 7 different chapters in the Bible confirms this?

    – [ ] Why did Jesus ONLY discuss the 6 Seal Judgments when they asked Him when it will be, Jesus discussed Revelation 6 chronologically in the Olivet Discourse when His disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be THE SIGN OF YOUR COMING, AND of the end of the age?”
    – [ ] Jesus only discuss the first 5 seals of the Tribulation, then He discussed the sixth seal in detail but He DOESN’T say a Word about the 7th seal nor ANYTHING about the 7 Trumpet judgements nor anything about the 7 Bowl judgments. Why only tell them about the 6 seals of the Tribulation?
    – [ ] Why does Jesus discuss part of the Tribulation at all?
    – [ ] Matthew 24:27-31 is about the coming of Jesus, why is it Word by Word the same as what happens in the Sixth Seal of Revelation 6:12-13?
    – [ ] Mark 13:24-25 is telling us about the COMING of Jesus IN THE CLOUDS, why is it Word by Word the same as what happens in the Sixth Seal of Revelation 6:12-13?
    – [ ] Why is it that Jesus first say what is happening in the sixth seal and directly after that tells them that the following event is when He will appear IN THE CLOUDS to gather HIS ELECT?
    – [ ] Luke 21:25-26 Jesus is also discussing the events in Revelation 6:12-13 and then the following event is the Son of Man COMING IN THE CLOUD and He reminds them when they see all that they must lift up their heads because their REDEMTION draws NEAR? It didn’t happen yet, it’s drawing near.
    – [ ] Why is it that Joel 2:30-31 is also prophesying about the Coming of Jesus in the CLOUDS and the events look exactly like Revelation 6:12-13?
    – [ ] Why is it that in Acts 2:19-21 it is prophesying about the Coming of Jesus in the CLOUDS and the events look exactly like the events in Revelation 6:12-13?
    – [ ] There are not other Bible verses that correspond to these events like the following verses. Revelation 6:12-15, Matt 24:29-31, Mark 13:24-27, Luke 21:25-28. Joel 2:30-31, Acts 2:19-21? Scripture always explain scripture.
    – [ ] AFTER THIS Jesus only discuss the Son of Man Judging the Nations in Matthew 25, a event that happens AFTER the Great Tribulation. He answered the Disciples but see if you can see what Jesus told us exactly when He will be Coming in the CLOUDS to gather His elect/Bride.
    – [ ] Why does Jesus ONLY discuss the first 6 seals of the Tribulation? He doesn’t discuss any of the Trumpet judgements not the Bowl judgements when they asked Him directly about His coming.
    – [ ] Why didn’t Jesus discuss anything else regarding the Great Tribulation and why did He discuss the events happening in the beginning of the Tribulation only?
    – [ ] Proof that Jesus told us Exactly when He will come to gather His Bride.

    AFTER ALL THESE EVENTS IT IS THE DAY OF THE LORD – and we are NOT appointed to Wrath.!! God’s Wrath starts in Revelation 6:17&18 and the end is announced in Rev 15:1.

    It can’t be any clearer – verse by verse, precept upon precept – text in context exactly what Charles Spurgeon, AW Tozer, Corrie Ten Boom, David Pawson, believes. The Truth, nothing but the Truth.

    Why does Preachers who defend the Pre-Trib doctrine IGNORE Revelation 6:16 & 17 and argue it away with their own interpretations? Why don’t they Read Revelation 15:1 and see that the end of His Wrath will be at the end of the Seventh Vile Judgement? We are not appointed to Wrath but to Salvation (1 Thess 5) but Jesus said we will have Tribulation. Prepare yourself.

    How can they even say that Charles Spurgeon , Corrie Ten Boom, David Pawson etc is blasphemous because they only believed what Revelation 6 are saying, line upon line. Precept upon precept?

    It’s very dangerous if you defend your theology instead of dealing with the Word of God as it IS WRITTEN!

    Daniel 9 – they usually say it has nothing to do with the church? How can they proof that – that is a assumption that they teach as doctrine!! Are they writing their own Bibles now?

    Why do they ignore EVERYTHING JESUS said in HIS OWN Words ABOUT REVELATION 6 IN Matt 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21?

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  47. And when you're pre-trip rapture doesn't happen what are you going to fall back on what are you going to tell your followers then oh we're sorry we screwed up we had it we had it wrong we misunderstood we didn't know it's not our fault what are you going to tell them when it doesn't happen what are you going to tell the ones who received the mark of the beast because oh it can't be the mark of the beast because we're still here you will be answerable to their souls I hope you're prepared to go before the Lord and explain you yourself to him you have a very good day sir take that to bed and sleep on it

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