Alcohol (including wine and beer) is prohibited in Islam, and every Muslim knows it today, because, as they say, it is forbidden by the Qur’an itself.
Take, for instance:
(Quran, Al-Baqarah, 2:219) They ask you ˹O Prophet˺ about intoxicants and gambling. Say, “There is great evil in both, as well as some benefit for people—but the evil outweighs the benefit.” .
(Quran, Al-Maidah, 5:90) O believers! Intoxicants, gambling, idols, and drawing lots for decisions are all evil of Satan’s handiwork. So shun them so you may be successful.
(Quran, 5:91) Satan’s plan is to stir up hostility and hatred between you with intoxicants and gambling and to prevent you from remembering Allah and praying. Will you not then abstain?
Or the Hadith”
(Al-Bukhari, 69:481) Ibn ‘Umar narrated: Allah’s Apostle said, “Whoever drinks alcoholic drinks in the world and does not repent (before dying), will be deprived of it in the Hereafter.”
So, why is Shiraz Wine, which originated in Persia, so popular today, if it originally came from a country which prohibits wine…or was that always the case?
Mel has done some research and has found that historically wine was quite popular in Persia (modern day Iran), and was indeed very popular amongst Muslims for nearly 700 years following the demise of Muhammad.
To be sure, it was the Zoroastrians who introduced wine to Persia way back in 2,500 BC, and they believed that wine, in moderation, was good for you as it gave you wisdom and intellectual ability; so it’s been around and used quite frequently for quite a while.
What about after Islam took over in the 8th or 9th centuries?
716 – 717 AD: The Umayyads liked wine. According to the Chinese diplomat Cefu Yuangui who visited the Umayyad court in 717 AD gave wine cups as a gift to the caliph Suleyman because he loved his wine.
Abbasids (upto the 14th century): the 14th century Persian poet named Khwaje shams-od-Din Mohammad Hafez-e Shirazi referred to the love of wine and women in much of his poetry, even mocking those who were against it. His one caution was that wine should be drunk in moderation, and those who drink to excess were bringing disrepute against those who were able to control their habits.
1680s: During the rule of Shah Abbas there were records of wine usage, and a famous painting from his court shows him and a whole company of dignitaries and guests drinking wine at one of his banquets.
20th century: Prior to the takeover of Iran by the Ayatollah Khomeini in 1979 wine was grown in large vineyards, and drunk by all echelons of society.
Mel showed a famous photograph of the Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi providing wine to a large entourage of dignitaries in his palace in 1971.
So, like so much of Islam today, much of what we are told is proper Islam by the Qur’an, and by most modern Muslims is not what was initially practiced by the earliest Muslims, at least not for the first 700 years.
It seems that many of the restrictions and practices we find in Islam today were not the case in the earliest years of its creation, which once again confronts the Standard Islamic Narrative (SIN).
Moving from Iran to another Muslim country Mel will show you in the next episode that this prohibition against Alcohol is also confronted by that countries love for beer; so stay tuned…
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LoL The title is literally an oxymoron!!
Freaking amazing!
Today Jews in Iran are permitted to drink wine. They are the only ones allowed to.
Making and selling wine is not the same as drinking wine. They intend it to be sold to Christians, who use it to act out drinking blood. Would God Junior tell people to drink wine, even a small amount for a ritual? In fact, the Bible says he drank wine himself. Wouldn't he know how bad that is for the supposed temple of the body? Jesus the wine drinker was obviously just a plain old human, subject to lack of knowledge of the human body or complete disregard for its health.
That anniversary party was huge. Song birds were brought from Spain but died when they flew up in the hot desert air. Chalets were built for all the dignitaries. There were parades of Iranians dressed up as ancient Persians. Chefs were brought from France. It cost so much that it was held against the Shah. Thye felt that the money should have been spent on the country.
To the two genius people in this video…Shiraz is city in Iran which produced and also from south France which is origin too. So two kind of wines totally…Iran exported this wine before when majority was Persian, Farsi then later After turning into Islamic nation it was was banned consuming.
Iran still has plenty of Zoroastrian and Christians living in their country…
Australian "Shiraz" wine is made from the Syrah grape, which definitely originated in France, in the area of the Rhone. It has no connection with Shiraz in Iran. Iranian wine was different. "Before the Islamic Revolution in 1979, there were up to 300 wineries in Iran; now there are none." — Wikipedia.
The Romans were making more wine so the import bill became large for Persia. So they banned it which the Abbasids incorporated into Islam. The Quran is ambiguous on this. It also uses different words Sakra (Wine) in the verse praising wine, however a different word Khamr is used in prohibition verses, which is the modern Arabic for wine. They do not say Sakra.
🥣🪰A Fly falls in a Soup, still Good to drink it?
Just because the prophet said:
-"There is a desease on one wing & the cure on ther wing." Bone Apetite!
But, if the FLY is Swimmimg in circles, due to missing one Wing?
How to be sure that the FLY is seasoning the Soup with the Good Wing?…
Ok, even a prophet can get deadly sick by eating poisoned lamb, maybe because one Leg has a Desease & the other was kept away from him…. 🍖
But, what's the Real HAZARD in order to prohibit Wine instead of NON Pausterized She-Camel's Urine? 🐪🍻🤔
Maybe because wine is made from GRAPES similar to Flies with NO Good & Bad wing.🍇
So, even when idols cannot do Good or Evil, Allath is lost w/o his Military Wing of Evil Fanatism & NON Sense with NO other Good Wing to Cure it's own desease: 🪰
The Armies of JIHAD.
Iran is not a "Muslim country" Iran is occupied by Muslim invaders. Iran is a Zartoshti (Zoroastrian) country where people danced in gardens, made love and drank wine.
Dr Jay this is really In-correct…. Talk to a french or a wine expert for that, you find out that it this Grape has nothing to do with Iran nor the town ….
The grasps used to make Shiraz Wine have their genetical origin in Central Europe. The grapes in Iran used for raisins today have no genetical connection to the Shiraz grapes… please do this background checks and correct this statement
Just a side note. Algeria was a was a wine exporter … Wine is still produced for instance in Egypt…
Barefoot is American isn't it?
Rules are made and revised by men in the name of Almighty.
I know lots of Muslims who drink alcohol.
Alcohol is still available in several Islamic countries today. Lots of bottle shops in Jordan. My friends tell me they could get it in Iraq. In Iran they made bootleg wine and went to parties where the women would hide it under their skirts on the way.
Wasn't zoroastrianism the predominant religion in Iran? I have been told Islam is a minority, although the ruling minority.
excellent wines from Leban, Turkey, Morocco, Ouzbekistan – Anis ALcool from turkey, Beere Efes from turkey etcccc…… many muslim countries have produced excellent wines during the centuries — though this has becoming more strickt in the last decades – Muslim that used to produce excellent alcool have forbidden or seriously reduced the production in the last decades
Absolutely superb gentlemen
The basic question for Christians and Muslims is did Jesus die on a Cross? That he did is beyond a reasonable doubt. That is what the dispute between Muslims and Christians is about. Both believe that Jesus is the Messiah. Those Muslims who say he did not die on the cross blaspheme God without knowing it. Don't argue anything else. ( I have decided to preach nothing else but Jesus, and him crucified. Paul)
Shah Abbas Safavi was one of the fundamentalist kings of Iran who was believer in 12 Imam shiei which is one of the denominations of Islam, during the rule of this dynasty 12 Imam shiei denomination was announced the official belief system of the country, also Shah Abbas’s mother was Georgian, He attacked Armenia & Georgia many times and made a Genocide in Georgia, killing those Christians who were not denouncing christianity in the river mtkvari in Tbilisi
Wine in Iranian culture is accepted and one of the important things of greeting the guests, but during the rule of islamists after the Al-Bouyeh dynasty they were eventually forced to not drink, but the democratic system was not forcing people, until the 1979 islamic revolution!!!
Also wine has the same meaning by the words which apostle Paul says and it’s borrowed from sophistic belief that wine is good and joyful to drink but every one should get drunk by spiritual wine!!! Or better to say drunk in spirit
In Islam, “Iddah” is the waiting period set forth by Allah to determine whether or not a woman is pregnant. Allah speaks about the “Iddah” in Quran 33:49: “O you who believe!” If you marry believing women, and you divorce them before you have touched them (have sexual intercourse with them), then there is no ‘Iddah’ (waiting period to determine whether or not she is pregnant).
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Now, comes the long-awaited question: What is the “Iddah” (waiting period) for children who are under the age of menstruation – children who have no monthly circle; and therefore, they cannot get pregnant? Allah explains in Quran 65:4: “As for your women who have no monthly menstruation (i.e., too young to menstruate), their “iddah” (waiting period after divorce) is three months.” In other words, the waiting period to re-marry a child who cannot get pregnant after sexual intercourse is three months.
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Mohammed Hijab, the great contemporary Islamic scholar, explains the “Iddah” which is Allah’s eternal decree for all humanity in matters of divorce after having sexual intercourse: “If you just read the Quran”, says Mohammed Hijab, “You will believe that you can have sexual intercourse with a child – a two or five-years old child.”
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Good for you, Mohammed Hijab – good for your honesty. You are closer to God (or Jesus) who is “The Way, the Truth, and the Life” than you can imagine. In John 8:32, Jesus said, “You shall know the truth; and the truth will set you free.” Jesus is nowhere close to “Taqiyya-lism”. In fact, Jesus is “Anti-Taqiyya”.
HELLO – YOU LOT
Islam does not have a major problem if Muslims do not abide by its rules like wine drinking and gambling or any of those vices Xtianity allows….
STOP
trying to malign Islam.
There's also Boulaouane wine in Morocco
Hopefully the Iranians will kick islam out.
The reasons why Muslims don’t drink alcohol.
1. Allah does not accept prayer from a drunk or even slightly intoxicated person. Allah forbids alcohol not because He is a kill joy. But because he wants to Test who will choose to worship Him in total devotion with sound mind and heart and who will not.
Other reasons why alcohol is not permitted.
2. It causes corruption, mischief and and violence among those who drink it. This is quite evident in nightclubs, bars, and parties all across the world.
3. It causes domestic violence. Some spouses especially females worry what their partners will do once intoxicated. I’ve witnessed this anxious behaviour among females living with violent partners. Because of this, alcohol can be rightly blamed for divorce, children also suffer from broken marriages. Children also recognise a father could be violent while drunk.
4. Alcohol causes flirting, in mixed settings where married and unmarried people openly flirt with each others wives, consequently leading to adultery. Alcohol removes the discipline and respect of not looking at a friends wife and daughters with lust.
5. Alcohol causes liver diseases and some cancers. This is why doctors always ask the question “ Do you drink” when they begin investigating a disease.
When Allah forbids something, it’s for a reason, not because He doesn’t want us to enjoy ourselves.
Just one more thing….
Jesus Christ never in his entire life drank alcohol or ate pork. And neither did any of the other prophets.
people have been making alcoholic beverages in many places long before Islam emerged and influenced any of such places
no place is fully as Islamic as one might think or imagine
alcoholic beverages, like wine or liquor, is like food, music, art, and dance wherever it is cultivated, often takes precedence over religion, even ones like Islam
Monammad drank wine .
Interesting how Shiraz is located very close to Eden which is now underwater; the north coast of The Gulf of Aden (Eden).
Also, I know a couple of Muslims who drink quite alot more than I do.
I would also be interested in hearing what you have to say about music.
And lastly, I'd like to say " I'll drink to that!" 🍷😁
Wine can be taken,in moderate way..but not till drunk….muslim say haram, but his own prophet drink in the morning and evening….
I found that many Muslims I knew had a schizophrenic relationship with alcohol and homosexuality, but I'll leave the latter for another time. A few anecdotes I remember are: one guy from our College class would tell me after prayers in the mosque, he would take his head cap off, put it in his pocket and then go to the pub; another man from Pakistan said he was a bit sad that he had to go home to Pakistan, because he wouldn't be able to have alcohol, another Pakistan said, that you could get alcohol everywhere in Pakistan, so I presume it just meant the house he was going back too; a Muslim man clearly drunk asking if the establishment served halal food; a Kurdish man saying that he managed pay to come to Britain by smuggling bibles and alcohol into Iran; and lastly I spoke to a Muslim comedian clearly drunk, I said to him, "I thought Muslims weren't allowed to drink alcohol", and he said, "I'm not a good Muslim".
To the 2 stooges who try everything to malign Islam…
Alcohol has been illegal for Muslim Iranian citizens since the establishment of Islamic Republic government in 1979.
The Law of Alcohol in Iran
The law is totally against producing, selling, having, and consuming alcohol in Iran. Accordingly, if you get cut while drinking or carrying alcohol, you will be faced with punishments like lashes, paying fines, or even jail. Not to mention that there is NO “Drinking Age” in Iran; so, no matter how old you are you will be arrested in case of being caught in any above-mentioned scenarios.
Nice. Shieaz wine. I would like to import it to Somalia.
Narrated by Gaber bin Abdullah:
We were with the messenger of Allah, PBUH and he asked for a drink. One of his men said: "Oh Messenger of Allah, Can we offer you wine to drink?" He said Yes. He (Gaber) went out looking for the drink and came back with a cup of wine. The messenger (Peace Be Upon him) asked, “Have you covered it with a twig in a transverse manner” He (Gaber) said, “Yes” and he (Muhammad) drank
Are Sunni’s stricter about this than Shia’s?
Personally I find Sunni Islam constrictive, miserable and obsessed with money/dubious relationship with profit and intolerant to other religions and cultures. Shia sounds more amenable to others
Hei-Mi-Mo-Ni (Āyīn-e Mānī / Manichaeism / Prophet Mani ) = Uyghur/Tibetian Mantra? Muslims was at the beginning was Manichian.
And the Quran also says alchohol is a sign for those with wisdom 😀
I think you must all learn to ignore alonzo til the end. Nobody must communicate with him at all.
well i asked some, and they said that even today, there is no wine allowed in Iran, the wineries that are present in Iran are actually owned by non Muslims today.