We kick off the Thursday edition of the show talking about Darren Waller still nursing his hamstring injury missing yesterday’s practice. Is concern growing around the tight end’s overall availability? Plus, Raiders get good news as CB Anthony Averett and WR DJ Turner return to practice. Scott and Moe talk with Las Vegas Review-Journal writer Sam Gordon who talks about his column about Josh McDaniels’ slow start in his first year in Las Vegas. Read
Sam Gordon’s Column:
https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/sports-columns/sam-gordon/gordon-time-for-honeymoon-to-end-for-raiders-mcdaniels-2658216/
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Waller is stealing money.
It will take a few offseasons to be able to add the players who fit schematically
There are reasons. No excuses is an easy talking point
HA! I’m literally sitting here a plate of eggs listening to this.
sam gordon looks like he’s on a sick one
Everyone trying to defend Waller. Dude makes it clear everytime he's "hurt" he hangs out everywhere but with his team. He doesn't want to be there. He just wanted to fund his music
waste of 17 million a year for Walller !!!! not worth it !!!!!
Josh McDaniels keeping 6 backs and only using 2.5 makes no sense to me. I also don't get his infatuation with bolden on 3rd down. We all know where the ball is going on third and long with bolden on the field. Smh
Raiders should put Waller on IR..THE man needs to get healed !! You ever pull a Hamie ? Sure, you can walk, but it takes at least a 4-6 week recoup..THE man owes us, let him heal 1st. Or Waller will be worthless all year………..RAIDER NATION..THE ORIGINAL NATION. !!
He's too busy with his rapping career haha
Trade Waller pay Josh Jacobs
I believe Waller … if he misses a game and they lose in the next 2 games, … Waller may end up freezing his pussy off in Green Bay come trade deadline.
Raiders always lose to teams they should beat. It will happen again in the weeks ahead.
And if Denver is a "dumpster fire" then what does that make the Raiders?
Trade or cut Waller and draft a rookie TE next year . I believe we have an out in Wallers contract! Dude hasn’t lived up to the hype the past 2 seasons
Waller is garbage anyway.
I like McDaniels and Graham, I'm not too happy with Zeigler.
they've all made mistakes and should've and shouldn't have made some adjustments in every game, but they will figure it out.
I think it might be time for McDaniels and Zeigler to have a sit down with Waller to figure out wtf is going on with him. he might just need to sit out for the next few weeks and get completely healthy, but if his heart isn't in it, then it's time to trade him. I love Waller. but I can see how it seems like he's not as dedicated to this team as he was when Gruden was the head coach, but if he's going to be going out to baseball games, then he had better be in the facility getting treatment for his injuries and expressing his commitment to the team or Raider Nation is going to turn on him. I get it. I innerstand both sides, but NFL fans, especially raider fans, can be relentless. Waller is a modern player. he's sensitive… I don't think that he will handle that well… but who knows…???
I think it would be wise for him to address the media and express his commitment and explain what his injuries have been and how he is committed to getting back on the field and being the player that we expect him to be…
Q: Will Waller be traded at the trade deadline if he doesn't play or doesn't play well when he does come back???
After ALL the pain, heartache and disappointment on what MAY be another bad year, and taking everything under consideration……, I personally feel that it’s taken longer for this team to learn a whole new system regardless of last year and the thin but talented team they are….. I feel McDaniels system WILL work and be successful but it’s going to take longer than anyone wants!🤷♂️🙏
the difference between the Vikings, Giants and is that they all have good to great O & D Lines, with good depth!!!
The draft picks, aside from a couple of picks and a few of the latter round picks from the previous two decades have been atrocious!!!
Gruden and Mayock and McKenzie had a ton of picks and a bunch of Free Agent signings that were terrible…
we all know the way to have more consistency is to be better in the personnel department. We should have at least gotten some better depth from all of those picks, but again, this bad drafting goes all the way back to Gruden's first stint.
just for fun, or to wallow in misery or just to verify my claim, go back and look up the 10 picks after the Raiders 1st round picks over the last 23 years… compared the players we got vs the players behind them… from Calvin Johnson, to Aaron Rodgers, to Aaron Donald, to Larry Fitzgerald, to Aqib Talib, to Cris Johnson, to Ed Reed, to Devon White, to Trevon Diggs, to Justin Jefferson, to Christian Barmore, to Minkah Fitzpatrick, to Josh Allen, to a whole bunch of O & D Linemen… I mean just imagine if we would have drafted Aaron Rodgers, then Calvin Johnson…???
The Raiders have been absolutely pathetic drafting since the 80s when I was a kid… yeah, we took the outcast players no one else wanted or that failed in other places, but we also drafted Howie Long and Marcus Allen when I was a kid… it never made any sense… like drafting Charles Woodson and Darrell Russell, in the 1st rounds, then drafting Sebastián Jankowski…??? Phillip Buchanon? and Fabian Washington over Aaron Rodgers, then JaMarcus Russell over Calvin Johnson…??? ARE YOU FREAKIN KIDDING ME…???
And I haven't even mentioned the fact that we traded away a whole bunch of picks for 1st round picks that failed miserably where they were and then failed miserably as Raiders!!! AND all of the horribly ridiculous Free Agent signings, like the Packers WR that blew out his knee and then got mugged, robbed and beat-up in Vegas…??? leon Bender the guy that died of a heart condition right after we drafted him…???
At Least Reggie McKenzie drafted Mack, Carr, Cooper, Washington, Miller and there were quite a few others that actually played well, but the stupid decisions of Del Rio and Gruden to let them go or trade them screwed us!!!
at least McKenzie got some of them right and got us out of Salary Cap purgatory!!!
to build a team, you have to start on the O & D Lines, Zeigler McDaniels, & Graham should've invested in a premier DT & a vet stud OG or RT!!! And then get at least 1 shutdown CB and stud LB, but because they didn't the Raiders haven't played consistently sound football.
that's why we're 1-4.
Imagine if we would have kept Yannick, traded for Bradbury and signed Suh… we'd be 4-1 or 5-0 right now!!!
obviously that's not the case, so the O Line is going to have to pull it together and Nichols, Billings or Butler at DT, & Averette & Moerihg at DB, & Moreau at TE are going to have to step up to the challenge and perform a lot better than they have!!! Otherwise, the season will be over before it ever really started!!!
Just Win
RN4L…???
We heard every excuse in the book for 39 years going on 40
We raider fans get it but the studs players always play hurt to support there team
I’m hoping for foster to get back instead of Waller
Let’s get something for Waller send him to the nfc side lol 😂
Send him to greenbay we’re it’s cold 😂
Hamstring injury for 2years?
Don't play down to the Texans!!!!!!
Sorry dudes – your narrative is pointless… the Raiders CANNOT "get more disciplined" and "cut down on their penalties", not with the accepted statistical fact of the refereeing bias against the team – there is NOTHING that Koonce could have done to not get called for holding on that Chiefs kick.
Look at the "fact" penalties… false starts, delay of game, 12 men on the pitch, illegal formation… how many of those penalties have we had? That's how you can tell if the team is disciplined or not. Then look at the "referee's judgement call" penalties – holding, pass interference, unnecessary roughness… how many of those have we had? If those ones far outweigh the "fact" ones then that just shows the bias in effect. Come on – you even interviewed the guy that proved it on your show!!
Raiders are dead center in penalties/ team. They've been in critical situations though. Even still I don't that that's been the problem, it's been RedZone efficiency
Yea hes allowed to have a life BUT if ur damn hamstring is injured he needs to be out resting and shit not at functions stop making excuses for lame ass shit goofy asses
Derek Carr is just not a good Red Zone QB.
I'm not blaming him for the losses other than week one.
But through JDR to Gruden to McDaniels, Red Zone has been an issue. I'm tired of blaming coaches on lack of RZ production.
And I get that the defense has been bad or mediocre through that whole time as well. So lack of extra opportunities plays in as well.
Waller did not have a good season last year. He was hurt and we made the playoffs without him. This summer Waller had 2 years left on his contract. Waller acts like a Jerk all summer because he wants a new contract. WHY would the Raiders give him a new contract when he had two years left and he was coming off a bad year (drops and injuries) and was acting like a jerk last summer? He was in the deal with the Packers for Adams before the draft. I'm sure that everyone would rather have the 2nd round pick at this point. At this point, trading him is NOT an option because no team is going to want to pay that amount of money for that attitude. Someone wrote in another post that the Raiders have an out in his contract. I don't know if that's true but I am doubtful the more I think about it. Basically my Raider family we could be stuck with a good player with a crappy attitude e.g. Antonio Brown, Chester McGlockton and Jerry Porter. And to make it worse he is taking up a lot of the salary cap that could be used on a young hungry player. This is not good my family
The honeymoon is just beginning. Stop just stop gruden should've been gone the minute he traded Mack. So just stop
Dont you feel dumb now,best win of the year
Well said