In the 1930s, the Chicago & Northwestern, Chicago, Burlington & Quincy, and Milwaukee Road were all in competition to race between Chicago, Illinois and the Twin Cities (Minneapolis and St. Paul) of Minnesota. With streamlining being the hot new trend, the Milwaukee Road looked to introduce their own line of fast trains that would leave their competitors in the dust. The Hiawatha line of trains was the answer.
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Correction: at 5:16, 49 km/h should be 127 km/h. I went and double checked and when I typed in "79 mph to kmh" into Google, it gave me 79 km/h converted into 49 mph for whatever weird reason. Apparently I didn't think much of it while editing. Also I forgot to add in the tractive effort. It should be 30,685 lbf (136.49 kN). I'll be more careful when I double check my next video before rendering. Sorry about that.
we have the t1 trust, when are we getting a hiawatha trust
A steam engine with a horn, that's rare
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On the old Milwaukee road on the old milwaukee road traviling cross the countryside my oh my what a wonderful sight when you here that diner call an invitation to you all, wheels a clicking on the track they'll take you there and take you back on the old Milwaukee road on the old Milwaukee road all abourd all abourd on the old Milwaukee road.
2:35 – 2:50 is bassically edwards exploit
I live near downtown Milwaukee, and as you can assume we have an addition for the MILW in model RR'ing'. I was at a hobby shop once and saw a guy wearing a Hiawatha hat, it was that of his grand-dads. I asked further on, his granddad worked as an engineer aboard the #2 Atlantic. Such a cool little piece of history I came across. I'm still looking for an Atlantic A class to match my passenger set… I really appreciate the local history you dug up… Thank you.
Used to be the signs along the right of way that read "Reduce to 90" were a watch-word of the Hiawatha trains.
Knew a guy who hopped a Hiawatha without a ticket as he had to get home fast for an emergency when he was a teen, wound up riding in the gangway between the tender and the first car to avoid being seen. In his own words, "Biggest mistake I ever made, first and last time I ever hopped a train."
All the grit and loose gravel got sucked up through there because of the speed and the streamlining acting like an air scoop, by the end of it he had cuts all over his face and hands. Worst part was they were going so fast if he slipped he knew he'd be killed for sure, so all he could do was hang on, said the noise was deafening. Managed to not get caught, jumped off when they were slowing down on the approach to the last stop.
THE MILWAUKEE ROAD
I like the F7 Hudsons! They're like one of the fastest steam locomotives ever (only the A4 class Mallard in the UK is faster) makes them "a Rival of the SP GS-4 Daylight" besides being orange which is my favorite color. Wish there will be a new build Milwaukee Road F7 hudson just like the PRR T1 trust (although I only want the new build NYC Niagara but I let the NYC hudson to be built first).
I’ve always thought these were just ugly.
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What is you opinion on 174 now in phase 7?
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What happened to 102
this was my favorite vidoe ever about milwaukee road Hiawatha service thank you
I am disappointed that none of the art deco, shrouded steam locomotives were preserved, including my favorite, the F-7 Hudson Hiawatha steam locomotive. But, at least the F-7 is honored as an HO scale "brass" model. I have two of them in my HO brass steam locomotive collection. 😊
Fun fact: from Tacoma to Seattle, the train was hauled in reverse with the skytop round end against the locomotive/tender
The conversion formula for km. to miles was used, instead of from miles to km. That's why it came out 49 km. instead of 127 km.
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“Orange: also check” that is true
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Actually the Hiawathas were allowed to operate at 100 Mph from the begining. That was specified on the Employee timetables. What was fairly commom were speeds slightly higher than that (management would turn a blind eye…), and there are reports of these trains reaching 120 Mph.
Today things are slightly different, and not better. Some sections have been single tracked. Speed is now a paltry 79 Mph. Amtrak trains are more than 2 hours slower. But the original Milwaukee main line has long sections of tangent track. There's hope that maybe one day 110 Mph or more might be possible, and travel times might finally be reduções.
It’s amazing though that 102 was still able to stay on the rails after what had just happened.
So the A class Atlantic’s had an air horn instead of a whistle but did the F7 Hudsons and the other steam locomotives have air horns as well or no
could you pleas do one about the SP cab forward (Ac12)
Did you hear? The Milwaukee road is only a week away! Can you believe it? The Milwaukee road is just a week away. Hurray
Great footage!
Legendary! The Hiawatha was peak Americana railroading.
Great video. It is sad that none of the streamlined steam locomotives have survived today.
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2:42 yikes, now thats a lot of damage
Nek minit Amtrakguy365 does the Victorian Railways version of the Hiawatha, The "Spirit of Progress"
If the track alignment allowed high speeds in the steam age, though under conditions that wouldn't be considered safe nowadays (no cab signalling), it should be possible to upgrade the existing line to "higher-speed operation", with Charger locomotives and Venture cars allowing 125 miles/h speeds. Who owns the track now? I guess freight railways wouldn't invest into making a line faster for passenger trains, so the money would have to come from elsewhere, but such an upgrade could benefit freight operations as well.
I love the A class. It's one of my favorite steam locomotives
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I have the Eire Built in HO scale and in Trainz. Just the one is HO scale is a New York Central System one while the one in Trainz is a Milwaukee Road Eire Built that I found off of the Download station. I’m glad that the Eire Built made it into this video.
Great video as always!
The Hiawatha is awesome! I love it!
Fantastic video! I love the look of the Hiawatha
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I loved it when AmtrakGuy365 said “It’s Milwaukee Road Time” and Milwaukee Roaded all over the place.
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Thank you!!! This is AMAZING!! The Hiawatha is 1 of if not my #1 favorite train. My Grandma actually raced a Hiawatha 1 time when she was driving home from Church in Wisconsin as the route home paralleled & was right along the tracks. I live in MPLS today, & would love to be reincarnated to that time period & ride the Hiawatha.
Seeing where the old Milwaukee Road terminal in Minneapolis is it's really damned hard to see exactly where the rail lines were! At least they revived Union Depot in St. Paul!! Remember: all the empty trains and light rail are paid in full by the money us taxpayers $hit!!