i would like to add one little peace of factual evidence. there is a simbol for a tree , which in elden ring simbolyses erdtrees. However! Despite the simbol of a tree being everywhere in elden ring it didnt first appear in this game. it first appeared un a very peculiar room in drangleic castle in dark souls 2 , and on a "tree shield ".
also , take a veery close look on the simbol dungeater wears on his armour , right in the very middle
Dude I really appreciate your take here, I would love if you fully fleshed it out as someone who played the souls series since Demon souls in 2011. Please look into that game, I have a theory I'm sure you'll agree with that the main antagonist of that is the thing behind everything. It was literally a cosmic alien made of gigantic tree branches that was absorbing all souls into it turning everything into fog, and gave you the choice of joining it, and the game ends and Darks souls starts with "In the beginning there was nothing but fog…". Coincidences like that I learnt in the later games tend to be intentional lol.
I'm gonna be a real buzzkill. There are no canonical connections. It's all either councidental, referential, or just simply similar because it's themes and concepts fromsoft likes to use. Period.
The Lands Between is simply a place where different but similar worlds come to merge (the world of Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Bloodborne, and Sekiro). That's my theory.
I'm 30 hrs in the game, lvl 72, and STILL have not ran into patches yet..I have explored a great deal of the map as well. To say this game is GINORMOUS is an understament.
Gotta stop the video at the spoilers part. Too early for me, just bought it last week and about 4 hours or so into it. Based on what you said on how large this FromSoftware game is, I plan on spending a few hundred hours on it like I've done with the previous games. I'll be back to watch.
Elden ring is an alchemical amalgamation of the previous games, hence the theme of gold. Plus from has stated numerous times it was their intent to combine all theyve learned in previous games into this magnum opus. Also the "fingers guide you" is a meta device… referring to your own fingers on the controller. You're welcome
in Nordic lore from Odin and Loki thor there is a tree that tree is called Yggdrasil it know as the world tree of the universe what if those tree are it's branches sticking up from the world dark souls being the bottom blood born being the middle and Elden ring being the top like donetes the inferno
Unlike Cyberpunk, Fromsoft didn't try to glue 4 different games into an open world (CoD cover-FPS, DeusEX hacking, Metal Gear stealth, and action exploration). They focused on just one/
I'm interested in a mysterious character called Mohgwyn in Elden Ring and any potential link to Gwyn's lineage in the souls games. Interesting that in souls Gwyn is used as a prefix but in ER it's a suffix. Also someone pointed out that in the main theme for ER it begins with a "plin plon" that is the exact same notes as the first and last note of Gwyn's "plin plin plon", perhaps signifying that the middle is missing, i.e. it's hollow. I'm a strong believer that nothing is a coincidence in these games and that there is no level of looking into them can be considered too deep. Keep doing what you're doing and I'll be there for it
Lots of crossover from Dark Souls. Theres a small quest with a blind girl waiting for her dad. Blind girl, named…Irina. Who also has the same voice actor as Irina from DS3 I think….
Could the burning of the erdtree be the spark of the dark souls series in some way? I know there’s lore with Gael and stuff but he is referenced quite a bit in Elden Ring as well
Edit: I watched the vid till the end, yea I’m pretty sure this is the case hahaha
An interesting thing to add, if you die due to the accumulation of the death status effect in Elden ring, the death animation has your body sprouting roots or branches before you're impaled on them. It looks really similar to the hollows in DS3 turning into trees.
I could very much see it being like each game is like the realms in Norse mythology, and the tree connects them all. I saw earlier someone mentioned the Bifrost bridge, a bit like that was my line of thinking…or it's possible that one can consider at least Bloodbourne and The Dark Souls trilogy to be outcropping from this game/story/events, just like how Ragnarok would affect each realm differently. Really just kind of associations I've made, anyway.
THe relation between the Great Hollow and the Hollows is abith thin in japanese Great Hollow is 大樹のうつろ (taijou no utsuro) and hollows 亡者 (mouja, 'dead being')
Other relations are usually connected trough words , such the Dragons having diferent names for dragon
I can't think of anything pertinent or clever to say. So, I'll just say that I love hearing Max's voice and his narration and the lore explored. Dark fantasy or grimdark fantasy games and stories really is something else. It's fabulous and grand and other words that can't begin to describe its magnificence and hold on people
As much as a theory of a connected universe is not supported, I really enjoy the idea that they are in the same world but just in different times and areas. People underestimate how massive a world can be.
i think the thing that connects dark souls the most is the description people found of dragonwound grease in elden ring "Solidified grease made from a mixture of gravels stones. Craftable item.
Coats armament, granting anti-dragon effects.
When the dragons were born from their ancient kin, they lost their stone scales, which can now be used to cause them mortal harm."
vaati has a nice video about a connection between demon souls, dark souls and bloodborne which he made using lore speculations from reddit. so people on internet thought about it for some time. nothing new to speak about max.
Great trees. Dragons. Eyes. Flame. Giants. Celestials. The undead. All familiar themes. That the universe of elden ring is entirely different in the themes presentation vs the older fromsoft titles, is the caveat. As below so above, but also as inside, so outside. Inward as much as outward. Clearly Celtic themes are far more prevalent, ie with the ancestors, than in previous Miyazaki titles that borrowed from all sorts of mythologies… Including far eastern, Islamic and judeo christian respectively. Those are prevalent in elden ring too. But an ancient Celtic root is the pulling point to the world in elden ring, given the expertise martin has in those subjects, and is present clearly in his own work and here.
There’s a shield in the game i believe called “Sun Realm Shield” or something like that. The description says it’s from a world that use to be full of sunlight. Wether that’s just a nice nod to dark souls, or if it’s an actual canonical connection, who knows.
Lol, Synthetic man called it when he said people would be making lore videos about this
The dark sign looks a lot like a great rune
50 hours, he thinks he's halfway through HAHAHAHAHAHA~!
no spoilers in thumbnail please
Keep them coming Max! Good stuff.
i would like to add one little peace of factual evidence. there is a simbol for a tree , which in elden ring simbolyses erdtrees. However! Despite the simbol of a tree being everywhere in elden ring it didnt first appear in this game. it first appeared un a very peculiar room in drangleic castle in dark souls 2 , and on a "tree shield ".
also , take a veery close look on the simbol dungeater wears on his armour , right in the very middle
Theirs def a connection cuz of patches
Dude I really appreciate your take here, I would love if you fully fleshed it out as someone who played the souls series since Demon souls in 2011. Please look into that game, I have a theory I'm sure you'll agree with that the main antagonist of that is the thing behind everything. It was literally a cosmic alien made of gigantic tree branches that was absorbing all souls into it turning everything into fog, and gave you the choice of joining it, and the game ends and Darks souls starts with "In the beginning there was nothing but fog…". Coincidences like that I learnt in the later games tend to be intentional lol.
I'm gonna be a real buzzkill. There are no canonical connections. It's all either councidental, referential, or just simply similar because it's themes and concepts fromsoft likes to use. Period.
Max, thanks for the end-game spoiler warning. Had to click off. XD
Hmmm that’s weird, those pillars look like there’s fingers imbedded in them. Maybe I’m crazy but I thought I saw a fingernail in the pillars
Spoiler in the thumbnail 🙁
The Lands Between is simply a place where different but similar worlds come to merge (the world of Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Bloodborne, and Sekiro). That's my theory.
I'm 30 hrs in the game, lvl 72, and STILL have not ran into patches yet..I have explored a great deal of the map as well. To say this game is GINORMOUS is an understament.
You should do a video on blasphemous it’s lore is very interesting.
I just my friend on to your channel and we been playing Elden Ring since it's been released as well. This is the perfect video for him right now.
Youre going to explain the story!? Good luck! Lol jokes aside i cant waiittt
I've seen all your videos and I love your deep analysis of these great series. From Silent Hill to Souls games you have it down man.
Gotta stop the video at the spoilers part. Too early for me, just bought it last week and about 4 hours or so into it. Based on what you said on how large this FromSoftware game is, I plan on spending a few hundred hours on it like I've done with the previous games. I'll be back to watch.
You should do a video on Xenoblade.
im so excited to see what you find max!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! love the content and keep loving yourself
About Madness, it also affects rats in Elden Ring. And remember they dropped humanity in Dark Souls.
Elden ring is an alchemical amalgamation of the previous games, hence the theme of gold. Plus from has stated numerous times it was their intent to combine all theyve learned in previous games into this magnum opus. Also the "fingers guide you" is a meta device… referring to your own fingers on the controller. You're welcome
What about demon souls and sekiro ??any connexion ?
Also ,the fromverse is real
Best game ever
in Nordic lore from Odin and Loki thor there is a tree that tree is called Yggdrasil it know as the world tree of the universe what if those tree are it's branches sticking up from the world dark souls being the bottom blood born being the middle and Elden ring being the top like donetes the inferno
Already liked the video just because I love what you create but will have to come back to it a little later, maybe once I've beaten it through.
Unlike Cyberpunk, Fromsoft didn't try to glue 4 different games into an open world (CoD cover-FPS, DeusEX hacking, Metal Gear stealth, and action exploration). They focused on just one/
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I'm interested in a mysterious character called Mohgwyn in Elden Ring and any potential link to Gwyn's lineage in the souls games. Interesting that in souls Gwyn is used as a prefix but in ER it's a suffix.
Also someone pointed out that in the main theme for ER it begins with a "plin plon" that is the exact same notes as the first and last note of Gwyn's "plin plin plon", perhaps signifying that the middle is missing, i.e. it's hollow.
I'm a strong believer that nothing is a coincidence in these games and that there is no level of looking into them can be considered too deep. Keep doing what you're doing and I'll be there for it
I just assumed each series was a “cycle” showcased in DS3. Other “ages of fire”.
Lots of crossover from Dark Souls. Theres a small quest with a blind girl waiting for her dad. Blind girl, named…Irina. Who also has the same voice actor as Irina from DS3 I think….
I may be wrong but I believe there is a portrait of the Bed of Chaos/ witch of izalith in the Roundtable Hold..a small thing, but still
Could the burning of the erdtree be the spark of the dark souls series in some way? I know there’s lore with Gael and stuff but he is referenced quite a bit in Elden Ring as well
Edit: I watched the vid till the end, yea I’m pretty sure this is the case hahaha
When I heard “land of the giants.” In Elden Ring,” I thought oh cool, the missing archstone from demon souls.
An interesting thing to add, if you die due to the accumulation of the death status effect in Elden ring, the death animation has your body sprouting roots or branches before you're impaled on them. It looks really similar to the hollows in DS3 turning into trees.
I could very much see it being like each game is like the realms in Norse mythology, and the tree connects them all. I saw earlier someone mentioned the Bifrost bridge, a bit like that was my line of thinking…or it's possible that one can consider at least Bloodbourne and The Dark Souls trilogy to be outcropping from this game/story/events, just like how Ragnarok would affect each realm differently. Really just kind of associations I've made, anyway.
THe relation between the Great Hollow and the Hollows is abith thin
in japanese
Great Hollow is 大樹のうつろ (taijou no utsuro) and hollows 亡者 (mouja, 'dead being')
Other relations are usually connected trough words , such the Dragons having diferent names for dragon
microkosm ? relly bruh?
Martin confirm ER is sequel to dark soul
I can't think of anything pertinent or clever to say. So, I'll just say that I love hearing Max's voice and his narration and the lore explored. Dark fantasy or grimdark fantasy games and stories really is something else. It's fabulous and grand and other words that can't begin to describe its magnificence and hold on people
As much as a theory of a connected universe is not supported, I really enjoy the idea that they are in the same world but just in different times and areas. People underestimate how massive a world can be.
Whoa…
i think the thing that connects dark souls the most is the description people found of dragonwound grease in elden ring
"Solidified grease made from a mixture of gravels stones. Craftable item.
Coats armament, granting anti-dragon effects.
When the dragons were born from their ancient kin, they lost their stone scales, which can now be used to cause them mortal harm."
vaati has a nice video about a connection between demon souls, dark souls and bloodborne which he made using lore speculations from reddit. so people on internet thought about it for some time. nothing new to speak about max.
Great trees. Dragons. Eyes. Flame. Giants. Celestials. The undead. All familiar themes. That the universe of elden ring is entirely different in the themes presentation vs the older fromsoft titles, is the caveat. As below so above, but also as inside, so outside. Inward as much as outward. Clearly Celtic themes are far more prevalent, ie with the ancestors, than in previous Miyazaki titles that borrowed from all sorts of mythologies… Including far eastern, Islamic and judeo christian respectively. Those are prevalent in elden ring too. But an ancient Celtic root is the pulling point to the world in elden ring, given the expertise martin has in those subjects, and is present clearly in his own work and here.
There’s a shield in the game i believe called “Sun Realm Shield” or something like that. The description says it’s from a world that use to be full of sunlight. Wether that’s just a nice nod to dark souls, or if it’s an actual canonical connection, who knows.
If not the same universe, definitely the same multiverse