A shadow of things to come, familiar words to many believers when speaking about the feast days and sabbaths. Paul’s teachings on these things in Colossians 2:16-17 are among the more popular verses used to prove the Torah doesn’t apply today. But is this claim true? What is the context of Paul’s letter here? What are the “things to come” that the festivals and sabbaths are shadows of?
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Happy Sabbath!
A good way to see these seemingly difficult verses. Very useful!
Shalom!
Amen.
Excellent teaching!
Shabbat Shalom from Taos, New Mexico! Thank you for the great connections to feasting and being merry on His special days!
Good teaching as to be expected from 119, bad presentation though. Someone please tie David’s hands behind his back. He is flopping around as to get ready for takeoff like a bird. It’s a distraction from the presentation. Just saying as an instructor of military subjects being in front of hundreds of students.
Happy Sabbath my friends 🙌🙏
Instead of observing the sabath, a day of rest. which was given to the Jews. I will enter Jesus's rest.. the real rest, not the shadow.
The Devil adds to or takes away from the word. Here in this passage are things to come. What’s will happen in future Sabbaths? A great celebration with good wine and food. Resting with the Lord conversation with the saints in the New Jerusalem. What is the anti-Christ saying? No celebrations. Or celebrate to drunkenness and do orgies and lust to excess.
As long as there was a standing Temple in Jerusalem and functioning levitical system, ALL commands were obeyed. Therefore, in Paul's day, everyone still sacrificed, still attended feasts in Jerusalem as Yah commanded and brought their sacrifices and offerings. The Aaronic priests determined the lunar calendar (Num 10) and therefore, these commands could still be obeyed and were obeyed before 70AD. When Jerusalem was sacked (like it was in 615BC) and everyone scattered, these commands can no longer be obeyed. No functioning priesthood was in place therefore, no "new moons" or lunar calendar. It is exactly like we read in Hosea 9:1-5 when Yah forewarned Israel of the impending judgment that would destroy Jerusalem and they would be carried off to Babylon. The feasts, new moons and [high] sabbaths would CEASE. They cease today for the same exact reason. They will not be reinstated until we are brought back into Jerusalem when He returns. Even then, the only feast mentioned in scripture is Tabernacles and it is doubtful we will build a sukkah when the reality the feast teaches, is dwelling with our God. Point being that the shadow points to the reality and we live in the reality; no longer in the shadow. IOW, the rituals have been fulfilled.
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Shabbat shalom, thank you for this teaching.
Great teaching, thank you!
Very! very Good.
Excellent exegesis!
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Shabbat Shalom! Thank you for this excellent teaching, Brother David. When I was still in churchianity, I struggled with this passage, as it wasn't clear to me that Paul was discouraging the Colossians from observing those things. When I finally studied the actual translations from the Greek, it became clear that Paul was telling the brethren not to be discouraged from observing the feasts, just as explained in the video.
Exodus 31:14 “Therefore you are to keep the Sabbath, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it must be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. 15 For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a Sabbath of complete rest [Exodus 20:8-11; Leviticus 23:1-3], holy to the Lord; whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death.“ (NASB)
Exodus 35:1 Then Moses assembled all the congregation of the sons of Israel, and said to them, “These are the things that the Lord has commanded you to do: 2 “For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a holy day, a Sabbath of complete rest to the Lord [Exodus 20:8-11; Leviticus 23:1-3]; whoever does any work on it shall be put to death.“ (NASB)
Numbers 15:32 Now while the sons of Israel were in the wilderness [Heb. midbar], they found a man gathering wood on the Sabbath day [Exodus 20:8-11; Leviticus 23:1-3]. 33 And those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation; 34 and they placed him in custody, because it had not been decided what should be done to him. 35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So all the congregation [Heb. edah] brought him outside the camp and stoned him to death with stones, just as the Lord had commanded Moses. (NASB)
Deuteronomy 4:1 “Now, Israel, listen to the statutes and the judgments which I am teaching you to perform, so that you will live and go in and take possession of the land which the Lord, the God of your fathers, is giving you. 2 You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, >> nor take away from it, << so that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I am commanding you.” (NASB)
Matthew 5:18 “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, >> not the smallest letter or stroke of a letter shall pass from the Law, << until all is accomplished!“ (NASB)
Galatians 3:10 For all who are of works of the Law are under a curse [Deuteronomy 4:2; Matthew 5:18]; for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all the things written in the book of the Law, to do them [Deuteronomy 27:26].” (NASB)
Matthew 15:3 And He answered and said to them, “Why do you yourselves also break the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother [Exodus 20:12],’ and, ‘The one who speaks evil of father or mother is to be put to death [Exodus 21:17].’ “ (NASB)…
Who is the 'Savior"? God or Jesus? Since Jesus claimed he received all his gifts from God, I think God is the Savior. Jesus is the Messiah, but not the Savior as only God can save, right?
Events being "fulfilled" doesn't negate keeping the feasts anyway.
Passover, in Egypt had already occurred before God gave the commandment to keep the feast to commemorate it.
Paul says Jesus is our Passover and to keep the feast.
It doesn't make sense to say we don't need to keep the Sabbaths, based on the notion that they have been "fulfilled" or to say that Paul says we don't need to, since Paul himself plainly said to keep the Passover and feast of unleavened bread.
..I am curious that while it is acknowledged that the "new moons" were of significance in times past, how is it that there is no acknowledgement of them by those so earnest to observe the times appointed?
The biblical feast do NOT point to Messiah. To say so, supports the bad doctrine of Christianity. Now that there is a change in priesthood and consequently a change in Torah, Messiah has become the substance of the sabbaths, new moons, and feasts.
I'll use the feast of weeks to explain. Rubbing two loaves of bread together would have been done, even before Israel was divided into two nations. Now that Messiah has been revealed to us. We SEE how YHVH has allowed a way for Israel to be whole again. So it doesn't point to Messiah, but he is the way. Through his death and resurrection.
Our speech should be how he is the substance of each of the feasts, and not how they point to him. Crush any doctrine that says Messiah was the fulfillment of any law or that the Torah was just a shadow of him.
Please research this for yourselves.
The alphabet letter, J , was invented in 1524 CE, 500 years ago. There were NO alphabet letter, J , in ANY language nor alphabet in the ENTIRE WORLD until the 16th century. Therefore, it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE for the true name of our Messiah to be Jesus. Jesus’ name is only about 400 years old. There were NO alphabet letters, J , V , nor W in the Original Paleo( ancient) Hebrew. They were added later when Modern Hebrew was established. Jesus’ name is a pagan Greek name meaning inferior, substandard. Jesus is the name of the AntiMessiah ( antichrist) to FOOL Billions of Christians and Muslims. Jesus is the False Prophet of the Dark Trinity. Christianity, Catholicism, is the Beast System of the Vatican ( Vaticanus- 7 Hills of the DOGS (Scavengers) The pope is the AntiMessiah ! Christian’s already HAVE RECEIVED THE MARK OF THE BEAST. THE MARK THATVALLOWS ON TO BUY AND SELL IS CHRISTIANITY! All Christian’s can BUY AND SELL 24/7- 365! NO RESTRICTIONS !
The Natsarim cannot buy or sell in the Sabbath. They do NOT have the MARK OF THE BEAST ! THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS SUNDAY WORSHIP !
BEWARE !
IT IS ABOUT TO ARRIVE !
Research: Natsarim , YAHUSHA
AlleluYAH !
AlleluYAHUAH!
AlleluYAHUSHA !
Concerning the things of God (verse 16) like the feast days, nobody outside the church is allowed to judge us, except, (verse 17) the body (Church) of Christ.
Nor are we to judge others outside the body of Christ.
(1 Corinthians 5:12)
“For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?”
Is it possible that when Yeshua said " Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away till all these things take place" that he meant what he said? There are many statements that the kingdom was at hand for those Yeshua and the Apostles were speaking to. Is it possible the Millennial Kingdom already happened and we are living in the time of Satan's Little Season when Satan is freed to deceive the nations one last time?
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