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The CZ Shadow 2 Compact is a very nicely made handgun, but it has some design features that make me not want to carry it. I break down why I prefer the CZ P01 Compact to the new CZ Shadow 2 Compact.
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I bet the firing pin safety was deleted for the RDS setup. Mini red dot sights require long screws to mount the sight to the slide.
There are many types of gun owners. Some people shoot 50 rounds a year , some 20,000 rounds a year . Some shoot in competition, some shoot from concealment with their EDC ( not a silly fishing vest) and some never test their skills or gear being happy to stand flat footed and slow fire at paper, others take force on force classes and test their EDC skills. Some never challenge themselves. Some just don’t have time. All of those different kinds of shooters have different needs and preferences. A gun that is easy to stand flatfooted and shoot with gets thrown in the garbage when shooting on the move and rapid firing . Same with holsters , mag pouches etc. it’s very subjective.
He said something I wish got said more. We should always be slowing down when putting our gun back in the holster.
This tacticool holstering just invite negligent discharges and serves no purpose. If you used your firearm in self defense and are putting it back then that means there's no threat so take your time because adrenaline is not your friend at this time and too easy to mess up.
I would never ever trust my life to a sig Sauer…
A few things to consider. I currently EDC the shadow 2 compact.
1). Even though the P01 is a "fraction" of the cost of the s2c, once you Cajunize it and add the optics cut the price will be around the same.
2) You only engage the safety in SA mode , not in half cock mode (as per CZ instructions).
3) To decock to half cock I put the edge of my thumb in front of the firing pin. Seems safer than the pinch method. It's not a big deal once you practice it some.
4) The reason CZ said they didn't add the firing pin block was to keep the trigger smooth. Same as the Shadow 2. Same as 1911s.
Good video. I agree s2c isn't for everyone. Regardless CZ guns are great.
For the Staccato….the tenicor aiwb holsters cover the srtong side safety and with about 10 seconds and a heat gun i modded my holster. Now it will apply the safety if i try and reholster if it's off and i can't apply enough pressure to turn it off if it's in the holster.
Glock 19 is as close as it gets. If you receive proper training, you will realize quickly that Glock 19 is as good as it gets for now.
When u doing the next bsm mk2 upper video!!!
Dumbest video from MAC I've seen in a while. Generally like all the content but this is stupid.
I own dang near every model CZ. Replaced my P-01 with the S2C.
Yes, FPB is a thing. Ever shot your P-01 so much you wear through the firing pin retaining pin and the FP sticks forward and you slam fire? It's a thing and is with all DA/SA with FP roll pins. Solid roll pin is an option from CGW but pointing it out in this discuss.
Additionally, the amount of force to break the sear is a ton.
Also, the P-01 offers a safety model and Omega (still have FPB). P-01 also has a Shadowline model with no FPB. CZ offers almost all variations. Will they make a decocker S2C? Maybe but defeats the S2 platform which is not a 75 true variant.
I love my P-01 and was my EDC for 8 years. But the S2C is here to stay for me.
I edc a CZ 75 P-01 as well. It's very comfortable in my hands and though I'm a smaller stature person, it conceals very well for me. I use a leather pancake style owb holster. Upgrades include trx pro tridium/fiber optic sights and M-Carbo spring kit, stainless guide rod, high pressure firing pin stop and floating trigger pin. Next upgrade will be a reach reduction trigger.
I was looking at the Shadow 2 Compact, but for the reasons you addressed, I have changed my mind about purchasing one. My greatest concern is the lack of decocker option.
I'd like to find a P-01 Omega. But I can't justify the current prices. Same goes for a CZ 97.
I started out my journey of edc with a g19. Carried it for years. Loved it and still do.
But for me, it's the p320carry AXG. Love this freaking pistol.
Okay Fudd.
I had a lot of brass to the face issues for a while with Glocks as well. As the Gen5 MOS dropped, it seemed like they worked that out quite well and the ejection patterns got a big improvement – likely due to Glock finally addressing it in order to prevent optics from getting hit constantly with brass.
Come on man! There are lots of other 1911s besides the Staccato. It is not hard to get one without the ambi-safety. It is statements like this that which diminish the value of the channel.
Try the beretta px4 storm carry
What are your thoughts on the P-07? I don't think that pistol gets anywhere near enough love. It's a sleeper.
Staccato is a 2011 not a 1911 😅
After pulling the trigger, can you still cause the gun to fire at half cock trying to drop the hammer?
Sadly, not ur best work. Some notable FUDD thinking here and poorly researched material. Loved your previous material but this one was poor and I do like my Cajunized P-01 Omega quite a bit. I think you’re comparing two things that are intentionally designed differently and basically saying it’s not safe to carry a single action 1911 style pistol with a round in the chamber and you’re afraid of things that have been disproven as many have mentioned in this comment thread. And please stop starching your shirts! 😂
I carry a CZ 75 PCR, which is basically a P-01 minus a light rail, and I feel it is one of the best options for appendix carry.
As I mentioned on your X post, I already have a fully Cajunized P01 that is amazing to shoot and safely carry. The Shadow 2 Compact just made no sense to me and not having a firing pin safety was a deal breaker. I’ll stick to my P365 for summer carry and P01 for winter carry.
CZ P-07 has been my main carry but with it at JagerWerks getting cut for an RMR I’m back to carrying the Glock 19. Another awesome video. Thanks!
Because you can't perfect the p01 nsn
Be careful bringing this up on Instagram or Reddit 😂😂 shills and fanboys loseeeee their mind if you point out the obvious flaws with this gun that make it not ideal to carry.
I carry a S&W M&P 2.0 10mm. It will take down whatever I am shooting at. If you carry an expensive gun then you are a phool. If you pull and shoot, the law dogs will confiscate your gun as evidence. Even if you are cleared by the DA, you still risk losing the weapon. If you are in a Communist state, don't expect to get it back. I live in the Midwest, and my buddy lives in New Orleans. He had to draw and shoot. he did lose his pistol; A Stacatto XC.
Better of removing appendix holster if carry that was put gun in then back to appendix
I fully agree that the Shadow 2 Compact is less than ideal for carry. After disassembling the CZ75 TS2 (mostly same internals) I found all sorts of things that scream "competition only" and make it terrible for carrying. The safety lever being too easy to flip is just one of many, as you mentioned here.
At 21:06 you said "there's no real detent" in reference to the safety levers. There's actually two safety detents…one on the left side that has a spring, and a stationary detent on the right side (recently uploaded a full assembly video). If your gun has no tangible click when switching the safety back and forth, the spring may be too weak. One part of the design that I don't like is that you have to take out the sear and ejector housing to get to the safety detents (safety lever pin holds the sear and ejector housing), so replacing the detent spring with a stronger one would be a lot of labor, unlike the 1911 where it's just a few minutes.
Whether a YT’r is right or wrong it don’t matter. You clicked on the video, watched it and then commented on it. That’s all that matters.
I agree it probably wouldn't be an issue, but it begs the question why is it kn the p01 then. A lot of people here are puffing their chest out. Laughing, quoting third parties being general know it alls and I don't see anyone else asking this, abd because of cognitive dissonance I know I can't get a thoughtful honest answer
I own a Shadow II, but it is the full size target pistol. I bought it as a range gun, not a carry gun. I agree about the risk of lowering the hammer. This is the same feature that plagued the early CZ75 as well. I was told the DA hammer feature existed so a soldier could double-tap those hard East Bloc pistol primers, not so he could carry it hammer down.
I like being able to safety check the safety, discretely, under my shirt, specifically to make sure my 1911 safety is still firmly in safe after a lot of movement. If it has a frame safety, for me, it has to be ambi.
I've had a CZ 75b with thumb safety for over 20 years. To de-cock it I put my thumb between the hammer and firing pin and after the hammer falls on my thumb I remove my finger from the trigger guard and then let the hammer fall to the half cock position. That's my safe way of dropping the hammer without a de-cocker lever. That still doesn't help with the Shadow 2 Compact not having a drop safety but the CZs with safety pin plungers that don't have de-cockers can safely be de-cocked.