When Was America REALLY Founded?



1776 and American patriotism seem to go hand in hand. But just what is behind that date? What gives it such significance? The United States was not founded in 1776, despite what many, both abroad and within the US itself, have come to believe. The history of the founding of America is complex, and multi-layered, with several important dates, 1776 being one of them, but it is most certainly not the year in which the 13 Colonies became a country called the United States. It’s not the year we won the War for Independence, and it is not the year our constitution was signed into law and ratified. So why 1776? And when was the United States REALLY established?

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0:00 Intro
0:41 When was the United States Founded?
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30 thoughts on “When Was America REALLY Founded?”

  1. Also, why the year 1789 when the Constitution was ratified in 1788? The election was held in December of 1788 but due to delays it continued into January of 1789. The first congress and first presidency started in 1789 sure but the Constitution was fully ratified in 1788.

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  2. You would think with all of the Americanizing and whitewashing in History class that they would at least tell us the birth of "the Greatest Country ever" on the true date we formed our modern union. This reminds me in a way to being taught in Elementary School that Columbus discovered America in 1492. Then in High School being taught that Columbus landed in the Caribbean, was racist, and was not even the first European to be in the Americas.

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  3. I've had a recent idea of a scenario involving a dynasty in china, specifically the song dynasty;
    What if the song dynasty repelled the jurchens and mongols, and maybe developed an industrial base as a way to gain an edge over the mongol hordes?
    its pretty unrealistic for a nation with such a large labour force, but the thought won't leave my mind, and it seems like the most likely option for the time.

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  4. I would disagree. The 1787 Constitution did not alter the nature or fundamental structure of the Union. To the Founding generation, “federation” and “confederation”, “federal” and “confederal” meant the exact same thing. The words of the Preamble, “to form a more perfect Union,” speak of the already established Union.

    The Constitution was ratified with the understanding that it merely strengthened the Union they already had and gave it broader objects, but didn’t change the fundamental relationship of the states to each other or with the central government. Yes, it delegated more power in the center, and yes it restructured the actual governing mechanisms of the center. But fundamentally the Union remained the same: an apparatus established by sovereign states to confer and coordinate on specific, limited objects.

    As an aside, I would argue 1930 to maybe the 1950s were the only time the USA has ever been a true nation, in the sense that the people really were united in the aggregate with a uniform sense of culture and values.

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  5. This is silly, the articles of confederation was the first instance of an America. It doesn't matter whether it was loose, or different from the current inception. Also, 1776 is independence day; representing the first time the American identity became a thing. All the states voted to become independent together; if that's not the start of a unified identity, what is?

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  6. According to "journalist" Madeline Berg, 1776 is a QAnon code hinting at a possible revolution in the wake of Trump's election loss. I think we should all take a moment to laugh at how stupid some people are. Nice one, Maddie 👌

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  7. The fighting started in 1775, but that was rebellion to show the Crown we meant business. Not yet a fight for independence. We were still hoping to reconcile with Britain at this point.

    We declared ourselves a sovereign nation in 1776, despite our independence not being recognized for another seven years.

    If the South had won the Civil War, they'd recognize 1861 as the founding of the Confederacy even though they wouldn't have won the war and international recognition until whenever they won their independence in this hypothetical timeline.

    Does a nation exist when its citizens and their chosen government representation say it does? Or is it when OTHER countries say it does.

    Do we go by our Constitution? We had one from the start, we didn't call it a constitution, but it was what we would know as a constitution today.

    Was a new nation formed when the new constitution was ratified? Nope.

    What if we adopted a new constitution tomorrow, would that mean the United States was only founded in 2022? Because I know a lot of veterans who'd like to know what nation they were serving all that time.

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