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Plot Twist: There're only Zoan Fruits. 😹
I think it should be an awakening but I feel Oda would have said so if it was. But also I could very easily be wrong given how we were lied to for over 1000 chapters about Luffy's.
4:55 I really think awakening depends on the user’s personality and creativity on top of the fruits original power.
I'm absolutely convinces it's an awakening, and always have been. I didn't even realise there was any debate there (I mean, yeah, of course there is, this is still the internet after all) because I honestly don't see whatever the hell else it would be.
Over 12 minutes in
My brain: Was she always riding a pokemon
"A non haki user should not be able to beat a haki user"
Points at all of skypiea
My only thing is I feel like it's too early for her to having an awakening because what room does that leave her to grow anymore? Like we still have probably 5 years left of this series, and so if she has her awakening now, what else is she supposed to do❓ Yes she can learn haki, but I'm almost not too sure about that, and I feel like Robin's character is to be more devil fruit based. I would love for this to be like an intermediary like Luffy what Gear 4 (which I consider that to be his hybrid form).
I would love for this to be the step just before she gets to her Awakening. She obviously has to master this for him so she don't get tired as she does, which is something that Katakuri and dodlamingo did, but I think she needs more room to grow.
I thinks it’s a reverse awakening
I think its perfectly fine to assume that other sources of power or magic exist within that world, not everything needs to boiled down to Haki or Devil Fruits. We will see if there will be further explanation, but for now I am just glad my girl Robin got another epic moment to shine. Her powers are really cool and have so many options to be really, REALLY powerful.
That demon form looked like a real Lilith.
That demon form looked like a real Lilith.
It’s her ashura, maybe idk
I bet it is something that a little bit like that:
Oda: You know what would be really, really cool?
No upload in 4 days bro you're getting so inconsistent
Awakenings were a mistake. They needlessly complicated the Devil Fruit Power system. If Doflamingo had just said that "with enough training, you can push your Devil Fruit abilities beyond anything even remotely logical!" it would have given us the same effect without the cost of there now being this narrative line we expect certain characters to cross or have already crossed (like, seriously? Kaido of all people wasn't an awakened DF user?)
It's simple, she's a tiran shifter XD
Why can't a non haki user beat a haki user? Luffy beat Rob Lucci at enies lobby and it's confirmed that the six powers are haki
I could very well be an awakening, but I dunno. I'd still lean towards the haki option. Just because they haven't proven to employ haki to enhance their punches doesn't mean they can't use it, right? Robin doesn't exactly punch people anyway and haki wouldn't improve the potency of her typical attacks.
When I saw Demonio the 1st time I just figured it was a technique she learnt during the timeskip, but not fully mastered until Wano. And looking at critera for awakenings I'd say Demonio could be one but considering how the Hana Hana No Mi works within it's fundamental basics, Robin could just be so good at using the fruit that she can make clones or herself into anyhting. Cause she can sprout limbs from well anywhere. Even on herself as she does with the wings. Now the question about Haki is more interesting to me considering the Straw Hats have 5 confirmed Haki Users and 5 that aren't confirmed. Which in my book makes it okay if not everyone learns Haki at all.
6:47 you know, I'm something of a Yokai expert myself.
it can be whatever the writers want it to be…save your time your welcome🤣😂
My first thought on the matter when it was originally shown in the Manga was that she might have wrapped herself in the flowers and basically became a titan or something like Muscular from MHA. Because the natural progression wouldnt make sense otherwise. She has the ability to create giant versions of herself to fight bigger opponents and increase her overall power. How do you make that stronger? In theory for her fruit that should be the strongest thing she can do without an obvious awakening type ability. So regardless of whether or not this is an awakening or not her power set still needs to evolve to match her intentions of "powering up" for her friends. The only way to make the giant clone seem weaker compared to Demonio is to become the giant construct itself. I think a great comparison to make here is actually Bege's Big Father transformation. He was already technically a castle at his normal size there was really no benefit to growing like that other than to increase his power, size, conviction, and options in battle. His Big Father Form doesnt have any new abilities to it. He can still send things in and out of his body at scale. I think the same could be said of Robin's transformation. None of her abilities actually changed. She can still sprout limbs like normal at scale. So if we are considering Bege form an awakening then I would say Robin Demonio is an awakening too.
I like the Kaioken theory much more 😊
I'm fairly on board with the awakening idea. I'm just not on board/tired of the whole "Haki always beats no Haki" thing.
Demonio being an Awakening is the only thing that makes sense at this point. We already know that Paramecia-type Awakenings vary depending on the type of power (the String-String Fruit and Mochi-Mochi Fruit are substance-producing types so awakening allows you to produce even more of it, the Op-Op Fruit and Magnet-Magnet Fruit do things that are more complicated than just producing a substance so awakening just expands on the power set) so Robin being able to do basically anything she wants (within reason) with her “flowers” makes sense as an evolution of her Devil Fruit’s capabilities.
I think it’s robin on the inside like a massive flesh mech
demonio might be a body part mech suit a she controls it from within
Devil Fruits are created and evolve based on the user's ability to DREAM. Haki is manifested and evolved based on the user's WILLPOWER. Robin doesn't dream to become a demon, she was labeled one, but then chose to be one to protect her friends. That's willpower.
Perona, is another example of a possible awakened devil fruit user
isn't it the same mysterium like Chopper. Chopper ate the Human Fruit and has yet no Completly Human Form. But instead has 9 different best like Forms not like the other Zoan-Type users who only have 3 Forms. Maybe this will never be explained. However I strongly believe this is not an Awaking simply because it was not stated as such. So far every awakened user has been stated as such in the manga and anime and that was not the case for Robin.
I always took it as her awakening.
I like the idea that the "Devil child" turns into a devil to defeat her enemies