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4 mana summoner 8/6, spend 4 corpses generate 4 corpses is bad? ok… oh add taunt too. i know this isnt that insane, but its way above average and one of the strongest on curve plays,
love the matching song to the holy theme at the end, a very nice tuch
Some of these cards aren’t great but unholy will be good I can guarantee it
Maybe they're undervaluing the corpse effects for Unholy since they have such an easy time paying for the effects? That's how I look at it at least.
It seems like 1 Unholy and 2 Frost or Blood is probably a worthwhile combo, but 2-3 Unholy is gonna be kinda wack this expansion.
6:38 Michael Jackson, is that you?
Tomb Guardians gives you all four of the corpses you spent on it back… Also, for 5 mana, summoning 2 Annoy-o-trons has been pretty backbreaking in the past.
I’m gonna call it early here, the DK rune system is either gonna get completely removed, discontinued or receive an obnoxious amount of support that you just whish it would in about 1 year max. Or they just add a renathal like effect that allows you to build around it avoiding some restrictions. It’s just such a weird mechanic to invent all future cards around
i care not, i shall always pick unholy lol.
Unholy came in weak because if it was strong, you just slap the best infuse cards and dominate the meta. Honestly it might be good still because of that, it synergies so well with the last set.
"Don't be a sucker, don't play unholy"
Those are fighting words
I feel like every reviewer of the unholy cards is forgetting that Sire Denathrius and infuse mechanics were just released in the last expansion. Unholy can easily leverage that, dump minions on the board, then close out with Denathrius, gaining tempo with other infuse cards along the way.
I feel like trump is underestimating just how disposable corpses are going to be in this archetype.
I have a VERY strong feeling that Trump is both severely underestimating how easy corpses will be to get, and also overvaluing the worth of a single corpse
Have to remember all these cards that consume a lot of corpses to get a not to good buff, also generate alot of corpses back into your corpses pile inherently. Like Tomb Guardians, if you have 4 Corpses' to give them reborn, you will be getting all 4 of those corpses back by the time they die 4 times.
Unless I am mistaken in how I see Reborn and Generating Corpses work. I am assuming a Corpses is generated on death, and they die 2 times each. Generating 4.
Building an arena deck for this class is gonna be pain
I feel like the flavor of infected grain would be unpleasant, honestly.
you didnt show the new Gargalon card
Seems like a 3 unholy deck just relys on SireD. Thet can't make it too strong or the deck will just wreck. Unholy seems like a great splash in other specs though, most probably those are stronger.
I kind of agree that some cards are very underwelming, for me the tokens of the 3 cost spell could be 2/1 and the tokens of the 4 mana spell could be 3/3, also anti-magic shell could give +1/+2, that is when you compare this cards with cards from other classes but i think Unholy DK doesn't go for a full board aggresive style.
I think the idea of Unholy is to build a small army of tokens and when they die use the corpses with Dead bride or Lord Marrowgar and then you have the free giants and the cherry of the top being Denathrius, you could even run Sylvanas and more Infuse cards.
Maybe Unholy is a more Midrange oriented deck with the potential to go full aggro.
Yo tomb guardians give you the corpses back. That slaps
…Ehhhh~…. Not really wild at the idea of adding in these additional gimmicks and requirements to play cards, let alone effectively. Just seems like a whole bunch of clunkiness that's going to immediately be overshadowed by all the decks that don't need corpses in order to work, and there are plenty of those.
I hoped dk could be a contender to denathrius druid but really you have to run two frost just to "make sure you go second" so you can kaethus bran daddy d. You get a few good 1 green cards but the double frost generally doesn't line up with daddy d it just doesn't seem nearly as good as druid and trying to skip the "biscuit" I don't know where that leaves you.
I think it's one strength compared to druid is it's not so weak to the minion destruction blood dk got.
Something I love about Trump is his willingness to be brutally honest and disagree with chat/reddit. It's especially fun when he takes such an extreme position and is proven completely wrong.
His open disdain here is hilarious
I have one question: if you play a card that generates corpses on another class, what will happen?
Blightfang infects the enemy hero? If he changes the hero will it summon a 2/2 for us? What?
~also unholy frenzy shouldn't say "Resummon any that dieD."?
Appreciated.
I think you are too focuses on triple runes decks. I think some cards are intended for a mix up, like a Nerubian Swarmguard which is 1 unholy and there is a card with 2 blood runes – Blood Tap that with 3 corpses give +2/+2 in hand.
Feel like I’d want to use Blood runes for the corpse spending, and Unholy to generate the corpses. Just how I feel.
It seems fairly obvious that the Unholy archetype has two different approaches: The first is the swarm deck where you want to get as many things out there as possible, play cards like Grave Strength and win the game. The other based on the number of taunts is going to be a grinder deck where you use taunts to generate as many corpses as you can and then use big threats or generation to slowly grind out the win. And I doubt the cards are going to cross over between those two archetypes much at all. A card like Nerubian Swarmguard's only purpose is to draw the game out as long as possible. It's not an offensive threat at all and it won't get trades but it's there as a wall the opponent has to deal with to get to *you*.
At 2:53 sounds like he says bone ni***r geist
I think one thing you need to keep in mind is that every single DK minion is automatically +1 in terms of value due to generating a corpse, so summoning a bunch of them would probably get out of hand quickly. That being said I do agree that these cards feel underwhelming, which is not necessarily a bad thing, given that I already dread facing a frost DK. I'm a-okay with them not having like 7 powerhouse deck types.
I think it's a mistake to think that Unholy is going to be aggressive, it looks a whole lot more like a midrange list that's shooting for some really strong turns utilizing the corpse from 4-7, with some sparse top end to go over the top in similar match ups.
I feel like most of the player base was baited into using every single applicable rune card in a deck running said runes, but I reckon the system will work more as a way to specialize general archetype deck shells. I'm excited regardless though!!!
5:49 does the corpse that the ymirjar deathbringer gives off triggers before or after the Deathrattle condition. What this means is that if you have 2 corpses and deathbringer dies do you get the corpse so that the Deathrattle condition is completed
Comparing Ymirjar Deathbringer to rumbletusk breaker? Seriously? Why that card? Why not sludge belcher for example? Because the deathbringer has more stats than sludge belcher for 2 less mana. Oh, you have to spend 3 corpses (you get 1 back, so it's just 2), which is really easy by turn 3. That's a great deal.
0:00 Introduction
0:24 Plagued Grain
2:53 Bonedigger Geist
3:30 Necrotic Mortician
4:01 Meat Grinder
4:47 Blightfang
5:14 Unholy Frenzy
5:41 Ymirjar Deathbringer
6:29 Tomb Guardians
7:43 Grave Strength
8:58 Possessifier
10:14 Nerubian Swarmguard
10:38 The Scourge
11:03 Stitched Giant
12:15 Overall thoughts
13:48 Unholy DK decks
16:12 Conclusion
Unholy Frenzy seems really good if it can also resummon enemy minions.
I wonder if the unholy decks are bad, if they'll buff them by lowering corpse spend requirements? ( I feel like the zombies was 2 corpses for reborn initially)
Wait but we paid 5 mana for 2 annoyotrons and that card got nerfed to seven mana
Control player bias? Has Trump ever even played aggro?
I think you're gonna have a lot of corpses if you're playing a swarm deck, so it's unlikely you're not gonna have enough for the corpse spenders.
giggling inventor was broken at 5 mana summon 2 annoy-o-trons. trump is seriously undervaluing Tomb Guardians
Really appreciate these videos, thanks!
I think trump forgets that the Ymirjar Deathbringer (1/3) and Tomb Guardians (4/4) slightly or entirely refills the corpses spent since the creatures have taunt
It looks like Unholy really needs alot of reborn or cards like Onyxia.
I feel like "The Scourge" is a reasonable card, but it would actually be better if it wasnt Legendary, it reminds me "Anyfin Can Happen", and I remember it being a really decisive card for Paladin
They should've made the Unholy spec to play like a Zoo deck or at least have some spells that would cast diseases on enemy minions or the enemy itself. This is just underpowered compared to Frost and Blood.