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Today on Plugged In, Justise and Justin discuss a variety of stories. Toyota is doubling down on hybrid powertrains, Swiss officials say constituents may need to stop charging vehicles in an energy crisis, and dealers find ways to sell EV extended warranties. Tune in to learn more!
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Totalitarian regimes like California will end up either rescinding their law that all new vehicles sold must be EVs by 2035 or accept the economic consequences that their untenable decree will reap… we need to allow the markets to dictate the rationality of economic reality… Toyota’s direction is probably far more sensible, practical, and economically feasible than California’s whose politicians are more fervent about virtue-signaling and vote-harvesting than acting in the best interest of the taxpayer and voter.
EV is not sustainable. Therefore might as well be the #1 provider of what 90% of the people actually need while being earth conscious.
I look forward to the hopeful release of the 2023 Honda Civic hybrid which Honda wishes to call the Sports Sedan of hybrids. With hybrid motor it has a lot of torque and 50mpg combined milage.
Ppl always say phev are too much maintenance, complexity. Prius had been undisputed more reliable than any BEV, period. The ICE engine is tiny, the design, quality proven. PHEV's ICE engine may be used as little as 20% duty cycle. I know, had one. So at 100k mi odometer ICE engine is same as a 20k mi use. Parts wear proportional to run hours. When I changed oil at 7500 reqd by warranty, it was so fresh I reused it in my truck.
Fun item from Carpinteria CA: a couple weeks ago a Tesla owner decided to drive on to the beach at low Tide 🌊 got stuck in the sand and left the car for Auto Club to tow in the morning. High tide it was in four feet of ocean water.
The IRA has lead to multiple new battery manufacturing plants in North America. One is a major graphite plant in Tennessee . Then there are the new mineral mines that are being created. Without the IRA China would still be controlling 80% of both. Meanwhile there will always be poor countries and there will always be leaders and followers.
This logic is wrong because Toyota is actively choosing to build far fewer batteries than they could, and far fewer than what BYD, Tesla, etc. are doing. It is a battery shortage (for them) of their own making. There is plenty of lithium that can be mined. Also, silicon batteries (being pushed by Chinese companies for next year) don't even need lithium. LFP batteries don't use cobalt, nickel, etc. Toyota will be swept away by those who are willing to make batteries if they continue this track. Also, plug-ins hybrids don't work well for saving on gas when the person lives in an apartment that can't charge for that 20 or so miles. BYD and other Chinese countries are moving ahead and Toyota and ICE OEMs will die if they continue to kid themselves.
Look at all the Walmart, Costco, and Target stores. Huge flat roofs that could carry solar panels.
There should be a mileage charge on all EVs to make up for loss fuel taxes.
FLA gas tax is about $0.334 per gallon. They are hitting EVs for the gas tax on approximately $300/$0.334 = 900 gallons of gas. The average auto gets 24 mpg. So they are assessing the EVs as if those vehicles will drive 24 * 900 = 21,600 miles. The average driver logs about 10,000 – 12,000 miles per year. So they are significantly overcharging the EVs for the equivalent of gas tax.
Stay with your ICE vehicle for now and when the time comes that your favorite will stop being made or banned, order that last year. By the time that vehilce needs replacing, the EV issues should be over. Evs are not going to save the planet as 80% is to poor to buy one and many people don't even own a car in poorer countries. The wildfires in CA, record-breaking 2020 fire season, which saw more than 4 million acres burn, spewed almost twice the tonnage of greenhouse gases as the total amount of carbon dioxide reductions made since 2003, according to a study published recently in the journal Environmental Pollution. We took our Lincoln Nautilus AWD, which is not a small vehicle on 800 mile trip and got 30.3 mpg driving 70 to 79 mpg and only had to stop once for fuel, beat the Nav time by 28 minutes.
Well imagine if Europe wasn't so hell bent on eliminating their coal natural gas and new tech nuclear they could power their ev cars without worrying during winter. And renewables WILL NEVER MEET THE WORLDS ENERGY NEEDS. NEVER! SORRY LIBBY'S.
16:11 LOL where does this guy get his info? That is totally false. Toyota hybrids are much lower in maintenance costs than ICE vehicles. Maybe some other brand's hybrids have problems, but not Toyota hybrids.
It's nice that you're realizing how hybrids are a better use of limited battery production. I bought the first model year of Prius (2001) in the US over 22 years ago, and the first model year of Prius Prime (2017) in the US over 5 years ago. Even the Prius Prime is using more than my share of litium batteries, but I'm OK with that. I'm a retired mechanical engineer, so I generally appreciate having the most efficient and reliable drivetrain in the world, and for the last 22 years, that has meant a Prius of one sort or another.
I've put the Prime to good use for 105K miles so far, and have at least one or two times that probably left to go before needing a new battery or car. By which time I will have probably long since gotten a newer Prime. Every time I buy a Toyota, I tell myself I' should keep it forever and run it into the ground. Which is a really great option to have, but because they never seem to die, impatience gets the better of me before wear and tear gets the better of the car. Plus, I live in New England, so I like getting something new before rust can even start to be an issue, not that I've ever come close to it doing so. Sold my spare 05 Prius this year with 230K miles on it, and no rust or mechanical problems. It was the last model year before Prius had a backup camera and TPMS. Personally I could do without TPMS, but now that I have a scan tool to do my own TPMS replacements (no sign of needing one yet) I guess I'm OK with TPMS, even if I just manually monitor my tires out of habit as a 65 year old DIYer.
Modern nuclear power plants are the one viable solution to meet "green" energy needs for the foreseeable future. As much as I'd love every roof to be lined with solar panels, there just isn't the production capacity to meet our energy needs, and there won't be for a long time. As for wind turbines, since I live in the greater Denver area, and see them going up all over the eastern plains, they're bird killing eyesores. Sorry, but there are way better ways to generate electricity.
I heard that there are more and more Tesla's are being sold as used cars due to people are fed up trying to charge these vehicles cause either the infrature is not there! eg: Live in a condo where there are no charging stations.
I disagree. I own a Prius and a RAV4 Hybrid and I wouldn’t buy another. The idea that there will only be 100 kWh battery for 100 cars is ridiculous. CATL and BYD both will have sodium ion batteries out in 2023. CATL has a hybrid, sodium/LFP battery. There will be much less need for lithium, manganese and cobalt soon. Just because Toyota and Honda are late to the game and did not scale up a supply chain, doesn’t mean that this is an industry wide issue. GM, Ford, and especially Tesla have their materials sourced. That quote by the Toyota representative is just them trying to put a positive spin on their poor planning. The number one car market in the world is China, which is rapidly adopting EV’s, the number two market is the US, where EV’s are increasing, and the number three market is Europe, which is also rapidly adopting EV’s. In Third World countries, perhaps hybrids makes sense. But for the large automotive markets? They absolutely do not in my opinion.
I have noticed a lot of Teslas in my area lately (Ann Arbor, Michigan area.) Pretty much see one every day driving in to work. Bolts and Mach-Es too but mostly Teslas.
I own a RAV4 Prime and it’s great. It does what it is supposed to do in terms of electric range and MPG. It’s fun to drive and of course there is no issue with charging on long trips. All that said, I have my eye on a Equinox EV. I really enjoy driving all electric and would like to be able to stay electric all the time. However if the Equinox doesn’t meet the specs published right now or becomes too expensive either with MSRP or dealer markups, I’ll be happy to stay with what I have. For me it’s not really a practical decision, I just really like driving an EV.
Nothing wrong with Toyota providing options for consumers.