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In today’s episode of our Let’s Play, walkthrough, and playthrough of Final Fantasy XVI, Clive and his uncle infiltrate the Republic of Dhamelkia in search of Hugo, while Dion struggles with the morality of this father’s demands.
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GAME: Final Fantasy XVI
AUTHOR: Square Enix
Final Fantasy XVI is set in the fictional world of Valisthea, a world divided between six nations who hold power through access to magical Crystals and Dominants, humans who act as hosts for each nation’s Eikon. Tensions between the nations escalate as a malady dubbed the Blight begins consuming the land. Clive Rosfield, guardian to his younger brother Joshua, witnesses his kingdom destroyed and goes on a revenge quest in pursuit of the dark Eikon Ifrit.
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Small detail that some people might have missed: When Clive enters Joshua's room, we see a shot of some uneaten carrots left behind. When we were back in the earlier parts of the game, when Joshua, Clive, his father and party were at Phoenix Gate and were feasting the night before the ritual, Joshua was pushing carrots around on his plate. Nice little detail left in by the developers!
Funny thing about the legend of Fenrir and the queen he served is that from the situation in Rosarian we know dominants are passed down bloodlines. Jill most likely is a descendant of that queen.
Oh btw Nico, you should talk to Lubor again for some bit of lore about him if you desire to learn a bit of him. He tells you some details you might not be aware outside of sidequests/mainstory.
Of course, if you haven't already talked to him next episode which we assume is another FF16 video on Friday. Your FF16 playlist did show 2 unavailable videos earlier today so maybe you have talked to Lubor again already and this comment might be kinda useless by then lol. If you hadn't, might as well check on him.
There is something oddly funny that what confirms Joshua’s recent presence in the Inn to Clive was the fact that he still hates eating carrots.
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Here’s a euphemism I feel like Nico didn’t catch
Courtesan (aka a Prostitute): (rough translation) WANT ME TO SUCK YA DICK? ACTUALLY I DON’T FUCK WITH BROKE ASS BITCHES SO GET OUT OF HERE
hopefully that’s straightforward enough to understand.
Just a reminder Nico, if you want to use the garuda pull with the titan abilities, you can do it by mastering your titan abilities
Let's continue the daily mythology trivia with Torgal's alternate form: Fenrir.
Fenrir comes to us from Norse Mythology with a name that means "fen-dweller" or "the fen-wolf". He is a colossal wolf that is said to be the ancestor of all wolves. He is the son of Loki he is prophesized to kill Odin and end the world during Ragnarok but in turn be killed by Odin's son Vidarr. He is described as being so large that the upper jaw hits the skies while his lower jaws hit the earth while his two sons Hati and Skoll are large enough that they hunt the Sun and the Moon, a hunt that they will eventually succeed in during Ragnarok. He is attested to in both the Poetic Edda and the Prose Edda with the Prose Edda going into more detail about his past. It is said that while the Aesir threw his siblings Jormungandr and Hel into Niflheim, they spared Fenrir as he was a harmless pup and brought him back to their home with the god Tyr bringing him food. After time however, Fenrir started to rapidly grow which frightened the gods except Tyr who still fed and spent time with Fenrir. The gods devised a plan to bind Fenrir. The convinced the wolf that to gain glory and become famous he would have to overcome challenges and gave him two chains for him to break, hoping to trap him. However Fenrir broke both the chains. The gods then commissioned the dwarves to make an unbreakable chain named Gleipnir forged from six mythical ingredients. They tried to convince Fenrir to try the chain but the wolf had grown suspicious and would only do so if one of the Aesir was willing to stick their hand in his mouth. Only Tyr was willing to. Once Fenrir tried the chains he realized that he had been trapped and in anger bit down on Tyr's hand. Fenrir remains trapped, bound to Odin's throne until Ragnarok when Gleipnir will finally be broken and Fenrir will kill Odin as revenge for his imprisonment. It should be noted that there are significant similarities with the above myth with the story of Ahriman, the god of Evil of Zoroastrianism, specifically the myth where Ahriman was bound by the ruler Taxmoruw but in turn destroyed the hand of Taxmoruw's brother Jamshid reflecting how Odin imprisoned Fenrir but Fenrir in retaliation took Tyr's hand. This combined with the numerous similarities between Fenrir's brother Jormungandr and the Egyptian monster Apep suggests a shared Proto-Indo European origin of Loki's children and the monsters of Ragnarok with other monsters from other mythologies. This also suggests the Fenrir's role in earlier myths might have been even greater: he might have been the chief evil deity at one point in time. His connection with Odin is also interesting to note as Odin too is associated with wolves, specifically through his two hunting wolves Geri and Freki suggesting that the myth of Odin sparing Fenrir had some symbolic significance of which we are no longer aware of, moreso since some sources say that Freki was another name for Fenrir. Speaking of alternative names however, it is worthwhile to note that Fenrir's sons, Hati and Skoll might have at one point been alternative names for Fenrir himself. This is supported by the fact that the Prose Edda lists Fenrir as the one who eats the Sun, not Skoll.
So how does Fenrir's portrayal in Final Fantasy fare? Well, he's a really big wolf and that's pretty much all they needed. Granted he's nowhere near as large as his mythological counterpart but to be fair, it would have been nigh impossible to portray Fenrir at his mythological height. Fenrir's associated attributes are also of note here. In most games he is associated with the moon and is often shown howling at it, as is common with imagery relating to wolves. This association is of course interesting as Fenrir in the myths has association with the moon via either his children or himself eating it at the end of the world. It should also be noted that his son Hati chasing the moon (and Skoll chasing the Sun) are in most myths described as the thing that causes the day-night cycle in the first place. His other associated attribute is Ice which became prominent in Final Fantasy XIV and is of course, continued in this game vis a vis his association with Jill, dominant of Shiva. This ties back to his mythological roots as the child of Loki, one of the frost Joutun. Really the most inaccurate part of Fenrir is that in most cases where he is given characterization, such as this game, he is portrayed as a noble and kind wolf, a far cry from the apocalyptic god of evil he is in myths. This is however, admittedly a more modern development and older Final Fantasy games do sometimes put Fenrir in a more antagonistic role.
I just knew Torgal being able to cast Cure was foreshadowing for something, and here it is. I love that so much.
Since you mentioned him this episode I probably should point our something important in regards to Yoshi P: he is not in fact the director of this game but the producer. The actual director is one Hiroshi Takai who worked on SaGa, the Last Remnant and parts of FF14. Yoshi P's main contributions are more business and organization related rather than writing based and as such, most of the credit for the Game's writing decisions should go the the actual director and writing team, not him. Yoshi P himself admitted that he turned down the director role because he didn't want to be director of two major projects and his actual role in the development process seems to involve survey taking and staffing. He did give advice for the project and he did put together the team that did make the game but ultimately his role was more business level than anything with the story or scenes.
✨Super awesome 👑
We get to go on an adventure with Byron, this game keeps getting better and better.
it was a funny little scene with byron stuffing his face just before the tavern fight but i think it’s also cute that clive waited for him to finish the food and grab the ale before kicking the table at the royalists. they may have destroyed all the furniture and left dead bodies everywhere but let it be known the rosfields* never waste their food lmaoooo
* after all the ultima business, we’ll go easy on joshua this time for leaving his carrots
While having Clide always have the right partner at the same time it's an absolute plot device, it's way better than him always being able to deal with everything himself, it proves he's a team leader with people he can count on instead of being Mr. Perfect like most RPG protagonist and makes the story a lot of fun to watch.
Please, we need these pain relief herbs desperately. Think of the people, Clive!
Hm… Nah. Be an ass and leave.
Uncle Byron really is such a good character. He's the games best source of humor now that Cid is gone. The moment I met him I begged the game "Please do not kill him off… I know you really want to make Clive sad, but can we just let Byron live. Take his Mom instead."
So a funny little fact about that fight that you had in the hotel. If you go close to the bar and go into photo mode, you can move the camera and see your Uncle eating and drinking behind the bar while you're fighting. It's funny as hell.
So we all agree Uncle Byron is the best, correct?
Something funny about the tavern brawl is that if you move the camera over to the bar even with all the enemies, you can see Byron fully animated in just drinking while hiding the entire time lol
Anabella sure loves destroying families doesn't she? I feel so bad for Dion, I am like 90% sure he'll be an ally. I bet anything Anabella had influence over the astrologers. Seeing that 'family dynamic' between the Emperor and Dion is an interesting parallel to Clive and his relationship with his Uncle.
Yeah, Fenrir wasn't an Eikon. Torgal isn't a Dominant or anything.
That being said, there are said to be eight Dominants, each residing over a different element. While we do have eight Dominant's in the current story, two of them share the same element of Fire. That leads the question of where the eighth Dominant is, because there IS another one out there that has not come up once.
Nobody steals from Byron Rosfield. If you pinch his money off a corpse, he'll pay you with it to cover the costs.
You know, I’d like to see a scene where a leader snaps their fingers, and then like five guys all come up at once and the leader had to clarify what they actually want in the chaos.
Harpocrates: Why just this morning I found Torgal with his nose buried in my nuts
Torgal: WE AGREED TO NEVER SPEAK OF THAT AGAIN! Torgal semi primes and casts Diamond Dust on Harpocrates
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And thus, Sylvestre becomes one the top three evil emperors in Final Fantasy. Second only to the OG evil emperor The Emperor from FF2 and narrowly beating out Vayne Solidor from FF12.
Fun fact: If you use camera mode during the bar fight, you can actually see uncle byron still eating and drinking behind the counter in the midst of all the fighting
Nico I’m not sure if you noticed but the part where Clive runs upstairs to see if Joshua is still there, and they pan over to the empty plate, it’s a call back to earlier in the game where it says that Joshua hates carrots and doesn’t like to eat them. I love how the game speaks so much in a single scene without dialogue. You can see the sinking feeling inside Clive as he looks at that plate and knows exactly who could’ve been eating that meal.
nico torgal is so entertaning
Clive: fights in the tavern
His uncle:*runs away with a picnic basket, inhaling a trail of sausage links*
There were a few quests that were as engaging, if not better than the ones you praised this episode, yet you're reactions at the time were very underwhelming 🤨 the human mind makes no sense.
So a very fucked up detail to keep in mind with Dion and his father.
It was stated early on the only reason his father is where he is now is because his son IS Bahamut.
So the idea of him now wanting to eliminate his own child after just using them like a pice of climb into a position of power is incredibly infuriating.
In some ways him and Clive's bitch of a mom are a good fucking match.
The desert looks so amazing. I haven't seen a desert this well detailed in a game since AC Origins. I doubt we'd get mirages and hallucinations if we stayed out in the sun for too long like we did in that game.
44:35 You missed some funny dialogue here with Gav. This is one of the reasons why it's important to check around the hideaway for anything new and talk to people.
I love how expressive Gav is, especially when it comes to other folks.
Byron is so surprisingly goofy, I guess that's part of the reason Gav has a hard time dealing with him.
yup, Byron is a goober.
44:37 You missed a bit of funny voiced fluff dialogue if you talked to Gav right there. Basically it's Gav being even more shocked with how rich Uncle Byron is as well as Gav and Otto wondering how they'll spend the money that Byron gifted them.
So the 2000 talents Uncle Byron brought to the Hide Away is the equivalent of 2 BILLION GIL
The Rozena Dalimil thing started through something different. Lu'bor intentionally took on a woman's name, likely to mislead people trying to find him. The saying "Rozena Dalimil is back in bed with Cid" isn't literal, it's just another way of saying they're working together. It's not like the hideaway heard that Rozena was in bed with Cid and assumed she was a woman because they assumed they were having sex
26:17 Nico: What nuts?
Me: Deez nuts in your mouth bitch!
Can't believe you fell for your favorite joke Nico Let's gooooooooooooooooo xD
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Harpocrates: "Why, the bbeast has the appetite of a behemoth. Just this very morn I found him with his nose buried in my nuts!"
Clive: ". . . "
Torgal: ". . ."
Gav ". . . "
Mid: " There you are!"
Clive: "Oh good, a distraction."
Jesus… How does Anabella make Cersie Lannister seem more likable?
man it feels like his uncle could drink the sea under the table