THE MAGOS by DAN ABNETT | 40k Book Club with Mira!



It’s the book we probably should have read before we went and did the Bequin trilogy – it’s MAGOS by Dan Abnett, in which we find that grumpy civilians are the best bit of Warhammer 40k.

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48 thoughts on “THE MAGOS by DAN ABNETT | 40k Book Club with Mira!”

  1. Absolutely brilliant review of the MAGOS. Your (the both of you) recitation of the novellas within – ignited the embers of my Abnett fandom – already purchased the book online while listening to you guys. Arigato! 💫💫💫💫💫

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  2. Aww, this video made me so happy. It's the most charming of the Eisenhorn books perhaps because it feels the most relatable.

    While I agree you shouldn't read the Horus Heresy. I think you should have to want to read that rather than be told to – it might be fun to get Mira to read the first book and, when it's released, the last one (both parts) and then try to suppose what happened in between.

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  3. sorry if this is a stupid question, I just picked up the Eisenhorn Omnibus which says it contains The Magos over the last 200 pages of its 940 pages but that 'The Magos' looks alot bigger than that?

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  4. just finished The Magos a few days ago. I really like listening to the stories in chronological order (intertwining novels and short stories). I really liked the Titus Endor short story, which I know is not that popular because it's so weird.

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  5. Please do "Lords of Silence" or "Brutal Kunnin"! Was his end vision quest as you described it the part where he's in some building in a desert in the City of Dust? I get memories of some desert with a black sun vibe in an ancient temple hunting Cognitae.

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  6. The Horus Heresy series is really too big of an undertaking. Personally I stopped after the first dozen-or-so books. Maybe do the first 4, they're pretty much essential reading but then you can pick and choose the interesting one-offs. I liked Legion, Mechanicum and Nemesis but I really didn't get much further with them. Or for something more lighthearted, Kal Jerico: Sinners Bounty is a lot of fun.

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  7. Next book series should be the opening arc of the heresy I think! To give Mira the Keeler backstory 😉 but I think she’d also like Gaunt’s Ghosts, such great characters! Could possibly start with Necropolis…

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  8. There were 12 short stories and The Magos in this book. I think 9 of the stories in the book were released before The Magos. I think they were in Inferno and/or released standalone, but also published 3 each in the Eisenhorn and Ravenor omnibus books, and 3 as a collection called Thorn and Talon. The other 3 of 12 I don't know. I might be wrong, but most were released before The Magos I believe.

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  9. For newer authors I really enjoyed Ghazghkull Thraka: Prophet of the Waagh by Nate Crowley.
    Let Makari introduce Mira to a proper important character instead of another oomie weakling!

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  10. Gaunts Ghosts has a series of short stories which are quite character driven (I believe just before the Necropolis story?). That might be a good way to have some Gaunt in the club without it going too "I moved my left flank".

    The Ghost stories are really nice, but probably a bit too militaristic for Mira to enjoy fully.

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  11. SInce Mira showed some interest in some Tau stories, I would likely want her to check out Broken Sword. Its very tau beginner friendly, introducing them to a human main character, and is I think my favorite expression of the complicated question of "are they better than the Imperium for humanity?"
    Voice of Experience is also very good, somewhat similar setup but is more modern and way shorter as a short story.

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  12. I loved the relationship between the cop and the medicai from grudging colleagues, to off screen marriage to embittered exes to actually still very intensely tied up with each other emotionally…

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  13. Okay, finished the video. I don't think I got anything else to add, except maybe that a lot of the stories also have this theme of the Imperium (and Eisenhorn, and Ravenor) using people, and then not really caring what happens to them.
    Those guys at the asylum (though one Ciaphas Cain novel had a throwaway line which mentioned that a planet which contained a facility to care for traumatised soldiers also produced a lot of servitors, so it could be worse, I guess), Master Imus, Titus Endor, the disbanded regiment, Drusher… you get what I'm trying to say.

    On to suggestions, as if you didn't already have enough of those:

    I've seen a lot of people recommending The Emperor's Gift by Aaron Dembski-Bowden, and yeah, it's pretty good. We get to learn some interesting things about the Grey Knights (did you know they don't worship the Emperor as a god? Seems a bit odd to me), the Inquisition, and the Imperium as a whole, there's a lot of stuff happening, maybe too much, and it's connected to the Ravenor series in a slightly strange way.

    Staying on the topic of Space Marines, there's the Knights of Calliban Omnibus, written by Gav "Take a shot" Thorpe. The Purging of Kadillus is a fairly standard Space Marine Battles thing, with the Dark Angels fighting some Orks. There are some standout moments, like the brief bits where Ghazghkull gets to be the main character, or when a Dark Angels chaplain takes the time to repair a damaged statue with "a slab of two-part resin" (Greenstuff?), feeling immensely pleased with himself and the heavy symbolism of taking care of even minor damage… which is immediately followed by a scene of massive carnage, which he himself makes even worse (of course, he manages to justify that, too).

    Oh yeah, there's also Naaman, the guy who actually has a model. So if Mira asks "Can you use that on the tabletop", the answer is yes… in some of the older editions, at least.

    The follow-up novel, Angels of Darkness , is much more interesting, focusing on the survivors from the previous novel chasing after some of the Fallen. There's also an interrogation of one of the Fallen, and he gets to explain how he, as someone who was alive during the Horus Heresy (he's actually in some of the Horus Heresy novels, which is a nice touch), sees the Imperium and the role of a Space Marine, compared to the modern version of them.

    And then there's Azrael ,which focuses on Azrael fighting against Chaos and going on a vision quest to become Supreme Grand Master. It's fine.

    I haven't read the follow-up series, Legacy of Caliban , yet, but I'm planning to.

    Moving on, there are some Warhammer Horror short stories, if you like short stories. Which I do. A lot of them have a sort of Gothic horror vibe, which Mira might enjoy. Some of them go a bit over the top with gore and scary imagery, which feels a bit silly. I guess that's what happens when you take something like Warhammer, which is already thoroughly unpleasant and over the top, and a bit silly, and try to make it into a horror setting.

    First of, there's Mud and Mist , by John Goodrich. What I like about it is that it takes what is essentially a fairly mundande situation in a game of 40k and shows it from the perspective of a regular guardsman. That's a clever use of the source material.

    A Threnody for Kolchev by Darius Hinks is a nice story about musicians and a cursed instrument from the little shop that wasn't there yesterday. A bit of a cliché, I suppose, but entertaining.

    The Colonel's Monograph by Graham McNeill goes full on Victorian era, with a scary mansion, complete with spooky butler (well, he's a servitor, but close enough) in a remote village, people driven mad by forbidden knowledge, and all that good stuff. It also contains what I think is the single most genuinely unpleasant line of dialogue in any Warhammer story, so that's a plus.

    And last but not least, there's Tesserae by Richard Strachan. I usually skip the Age of Sigmar stuff, but this on stars a dwarf duardin™, and I like those guys. Again, creepy mansion, nice story.

    I could go on, but I see that I've gone on long enough already. Sorry about that.
    Books. Read them. They're fun.
    Or don't.

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  14. Re: “mangos”: my Ancient Greek didn’t”5 even make it to GCSE, but I’m pretty sure γ is a hard “g”. Magi would be Latin, and the soft “g” may have come in with medieval church Latin. How we say “Gemini” may be wrong, or I may be wrong.

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  15. You missed the most important part… Eisenhorn smiled! 😄

    And yea, in the afterward Dan says he hadn't written the stories with the intent of them being tied together, in fact he was only tasked to write a novella but in the process "realised" he had been writing a novel the whole time 😊

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