The Indiana Jones Iceberg Explained



If adventure has a name…it’s gotta be The Indiana Jones Iceberg! Though it’s not really an adventure it’s more like a fun trivia/lore video.

Background footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I8G-6-z3KU – LEGO Indiana Jones : The Original Adventures (InfernaPuma)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgjdlhty1P8 – Indiana Jones and the Emperor’s Tomb (UPlayNetwork)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rdlUwwCuMk – LEGO Indiana Jones 2: The Adventure Continues (InfernaPuma)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOTIsuJE1Eo – Indiana Jones and the Staff of Kings (UPlayNetwork)

Sources/More Info
https://www.slashfilm.com/819658/harrison-ford-pushed-through-incomprehensible-pain-in-order-to-finish-indiana-jones-and-the-temple-of-doom/ – article about Harrison Ford’s injury on Temple of Doom

https://www.instagram.com/kehuyquan/p/Cp6eG3LuELc/?img_index=1 – Ke Huy Quan’s instagram post revealing he gave Kate Capshaw a black eye

https://web.archive.org/web/20080517064438/http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356282,00.html & https://web.archive.org/web/20080828035243/http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/08/05/exclusive-indiana-jones-5-wont-center-on-shia-labeouf-george-lucas-insists/ – articles about George Lucas and Indiana Jones 5

https://soundcloud.com/themysticalunderground/sets/rob-macgregor-indiana-jones – Staff of Kings audiobook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9tYZBLX2lA – the Temple of Doom prank

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEPsxJp_yxk – Temple of the Forbidden Eye

https://lostmediawiki.com/Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark_(partially_found_unreleased_R-rated_version_of_adventure_film;_1981) & https://lostmediawiki.com/Indiana_Jones_and_the_Temple_of_Doom_(partially_found_deleted_scenes_of_Steven_Spielberg_adventure_film;_1984) & http://www.theraider.net/films/crusade/deleted_scenes.php & http://www.theraider.net/films/raiders/deleted_scenes.php & http://www.theraider.net/films/indy4/deleted_scenes.php & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-_vKOpjCJo – articles and videos about deleted scenes

http://www.theraider.net/features/interviews/collective_team.php & https://web.archive.org/web/20130523164624/http://www.ugo.com/movies/indy-update & http://www.theraider.net/features/interviews/hugh_fleming.php – articles mentioning Abner Ravenwood’s scrapped appearances

https://medium.com/@donovankolker/indiana-jones-and-the-temple-of-postcolonial-theory-201551901980 & https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-05/revisiting-indiana-jones-and-the-temple-of-doom/13122750 & https://www.newarab.com/features/can-indiana-jones-overcome-its-orientalist-past & http://raven.theraider.net/threads/temple-of-doom-a-homage-to-colonialism-a-different-reading.5238/ – articles, blogs and threads about the Temple of Doom racism controversy

https://www.indiewire.com/news/breaking-news/harrison-ford-indiana-jones-stunt-people-leave-him-alone-1234869767/ & https://www.looper.com/1328476/indiana-jones-5-scene-unexpectedly-hazardous-film-harrison-ford/ – articles about Dial of Destiny injuries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkEMjhTyBB4 – What Happened? video on Staff of Kings

https://kotaku.com/the-new-official-indiana-jones-prequel-isnt-a-movie-i-5862715 – article about Adventure World

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY3Q0CpGEWw & https://elrecovecodelgeek.blogspot.com/2019/09/entrevista-rob-macgregor-y-he-aqui.html – interviews with Rob MacGregor where he talks about Deirdre Campbell Jones

https://mixnmojo.com/features/sitefeatures/Indiana-Jones-and-the-Iron-Phoenix-The-Lost-Sequel-to-Fate-of-Atlantis & https://www.polygon.com/2016/7/26/12290090/lucasarts-indiana-jones-and-the-iron-phoenix-design-documents – article about the Iron Phoenix, Spear of Destiny and the World’s Fair games

https://www.avclub.com/john-rhys-davies-on-indiana-jones-and-almost-passing-on-1798233606 & https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/sean-connery-turned-down-indiana-jones-4-because-role-was-small-1075674/ – John Rhys-Davies and Sean Connery on their scrapped Crystal Skull cameos

https://www.cbr.com/indiana-jones-5-director-reveals-why-ke-huy-quan-isnt-in-the-film/ & https://people.com/movies/why-indiana-jones-and-goonies-kid-star-ke-huy-quan-quit-acting-for-20-years-inside-his-return/ – articles about Short Round’s disappearance from the series

https://web.archive.org/web/20081119035449/http://www.empireonline.com/indy/day3/3.asp & https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/diarrhoea-almost-derailed-indiana-jones/ – articles about how everyone got sick working on Raiders

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h45yfaxibM – gameplay of the Core Design Indiana Jones pitch

http://www.theraider.net/features/interviews/hugh_fleming.php – interview about the Lost Horizon

00:00 – Intro
00:58 – Tier I: The Ark of the Covenant
45:59 – Commercial Break 1
46:36 – Tier II: The Holy Grail
01:26:35 – Commercial Break 2
01:27:12 – Tier III: The Crystal Skull
02:03:42 – Commerical Break 3
02:04:03 – Tier IV: The Archimedes’ Dial
02:41:27 – Outro

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38 thoughts on “The Indiana Jones Iceberg Explained”

  1. Here's the last of the sources/links I wanted to put in the description. They really need to up the character limit.

    https://www.slashfilm.com/1212470/raiders-of-the-lost-arks-flying-wing-nearly-shattered-harrison-fords-knee/ – article about the Raiders of the Lost Ark injury

    https://www.eurogamer.net/original-developer-of-tomb-raider-tried-to-salvage-cancelled-10th-anniversary-edition-with-indiana-jones-and-national-treasure-pitches – article about the Core Design Indiana Jones pitch

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcPAjstFLzw & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6awi1NttDDs – gameplay of the Greatest Adventures Sega Genesis port

    https://trouble.city/articles/2020/6/4/script-review-indiana-jones-and-the-monkey-god & https://www.eightieskids.com/indiana-jones-and-the-monkey-king-the-sequel-too-mad-to-get-made/ & https://web.archive.org/web/20080808115736/http://www.empireonline.com/indy/day10/ – articles about the Monkey King

    https://web.archive.org/web/20180918193641/http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/07/factor_5_almost_ported_super_castlevania_iv_to_the_sega_mega_drive – article about the Greatest Adventures port

    https://bloody-disgusting.com/editorials/3457215/indiana-jones-supernatural-horror-movie-almost/ – article about the haunted house Indiana Jones film

    https://web.archive.org/web/20211029175239/https://www.videogamer.com/news/lucasarts-still-hope-for-next-gen-indy-game/ & https://www.fanbyte.com/legacy/whatever-happened-to-indiana-jones-and-the-staff-of-kings & https://web.archive.org/web/20211028180643/https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/keeping-up-with-the-joneses/ & & https://filmstories.co.uk/features/the-story-of-the-cancelled-indiana-jones-and-the-staff-of-kings/ & https://www.unseen64.net/2009/08/04/indiana-jones-and-the-staff-of-kings-xbox-360-ps3-cancelled/ – articles about Staff of Kings

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8w3EjXn52E & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSDFgm7wSys – gameplay of the original Staff of Kings

    https://screenrant.com/indiana-jones-dial-destiny-movie-alternative-ending-james-mangold-response/ – article about the original Dial of Destiny ending

    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna24788840 & https://web.archive.org/web/20080527004748/http://orenburg.kp.ru/daily/24103/329446/ – articles about the Russian Crystal Skull ban

    https://www.byrnerobotics.com/FAQ/listing.asp?ID=3&T1=Questions+about+Aborted+Storylines#65 – info on The Sentinel

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbCaE1Czv88 – source of the Giant Snake clip

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0hHiY81W-s & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZDoimvRXm8 & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arthH4rsXeQ – Noiselandco's playthrough of the Young Indiana Jones DVD games

    https://screenrant.com/indiana-jones-unmade-cancelled-movies-reasons-explained/ – article about cancelled Indiana Jones films

    http://web.archive.org/web/20090921114904/http://www.starwars.com/community/news/films/f20080407/index.html?page=3 & https://www.indyfan.com/articles/yijchb.html – articles about Young Indiana Jones Season 3

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Km2uQEyka8 & https://youtu.be/mnN0tK2-fJ0?si=IcggyOQnLPrAiJxg&t=245 – Infernal Machine easter eggs

    https://web.archive.org/web/20120308181915/http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/04/07/shia-gets-injured-on-indy-4-gears-up-for-transformers-2/ – article about Shia LaBeouf's injury

    https://scriptshadow.net/indiana-jones-and-the-city-of-the-gods-darabont-draft-2/ & https://screencrush.com/frank-darabont-indiana-jones-script/ – articles about City of the Gods

    http://raven.theraider.net/threads/unfilmed-episodes-of-young-indy.8458/page-4#post-458592 – post about Berlin, Late August 1916

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8BXMIXvwJ8 & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQUzSz7LbOM & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goIJIrlLzBA – cut LEGO Star Wars level

    https://trouble.city/articles/2020/7/23/script-review-indiana-jones-and-the-saucer-men-from-mars & https://scriptshadow.net/screenplay-review-indiana-jones-and-the-saucer-men-from-mars/ – articles about the Saucermen from Mars

    https://screenrant.com/indiana-jones-paul-freeman-belloq-fly-eat-explained/ – article about Belloq eating a fly

    https://theindycast.com/you-lost-today-episode-146-but-that-doesnt-mean-you-have-to-like-it/ – Indycast episode mentioning the Batman crossover

    https://web.archive.org/web/20000127011936/http://www.checkout.com/games/nn/article/0%2C6712%2C1746754%2C00.html – interview mentioning the Infernal Machine multiplayer

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/feature/harrison-ford-interview-shrinking-indy-5-1923-1235318736/ & https://youtu.be/NmNZSzUIK-U?si=322qagZ3qgnUxEE3&t=101 – Harrison Ford discussing his age in DOD

    https://moedred.livejournal.com/10313.html – blog going over Jeffrey Boam and Menno Meyjes' Indy 3 scripts

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qupOwyYxjyM – test footage for Iron Phoenix

    https://web.archive.org/web/20071011135930/http://scifi.com/sfw/interviews/sfw8748.html & https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/spielberg-recruits-indy-sequel/ – articles about Shyamalan's Indy 4

    https://web.archive.org/web/20091204081828/https://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/12/01/conan-obrien-gets-lego-fied.aspx – article about Conan in LEGO Indy

    https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/indiana-jones-series-disney-plus-1235416179/ & https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/lucasfilm-indiana-jones-spinoff-series-disney-plus-canceled/ – articles about the Disney+ series

    https://variety.com/2023/film/news/indiana-jones-5-james-mangold-harrison-ford-1235650894/ – article mentioning a Helena Shaw film

    https://github.com/Jones3D-The-Infernal-Engine/Unreleased-level-Shambala-Waterworks?tab=readme-ov-file – article about Shambala Waterworks

    http://www.theraider.net/features/interviews/hal_barwood.php & https://web.archive.org/web/20070808174942/https://www.adventure-treff.de/artikel/interviews.php?id=49&lang=eng – Hal Barwood interviews about Spear of Destiny

    https://www.eurogamer.net/belloq-from-indiana-jones-interview?page=2 – Paul Freeman interview where he mentions Belloq returning

    https://web.archive.org/web/20201020123825/https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/indiana-jones-5-steven-spielberg-quit-director-harrison-ford-release-date-trailer-b740989.html & https://web.archive.org/web/20230711180908/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-ending-1235528734/ & https://web.archive.org/web/20210604015926/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/david-koepp-you-should-have-left-exiting-indiana-jones-5-1299412/ & https://web.archive.org/web/20210604002211/https://www.pressreader.com/australia/empire-australasia/20160801/281535110286058 & https://web.archive.org/web/20161026070417/http://collider.com/indiana-jones-5-george-lucas-david-koepp/ & https://web.archive.org/web/20210604015925/https://www.ign.com/articles/spielbergs-indiana-jones-5-fell-apart-because-no-one-could-agree-on-the-script – articles about Spielberg's Indiana Jones 5

    https://www.polygon.com/2015/8/3/9089181/indiana-jones-abusive-creep – article about the Indiana Jones 15 year old Marion issue

    https://moedred.livejournal.com/2009/03/04/ – meeting between Lucas, Spielberg and Kasdan about Raiders of the Lost Ark in 1978

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  2. Oddly enough, there's a bit of precedent to the "hiding in a lead lined fridge while the bombs are dropping" idea.

    A movie called "Ladybug Ladybug" from 1963 shows a little girl do the same thing. Granted, you don't know if she survived or not still…if I had a nickel….lol.

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  3. I always thought the temple of doom dinner scene was supposed to be a contrast to the villagers from earlier in the movie. The excess of the palace and their hostility contrasts how the villagers are kind and despite having no food choose to feed Indy and Short Round. The palace is evil hand having a curse is why they are eating snakes and insects while the food given by the villagers was vegetables more in line with typical Indian food.

    There is a deleted scene in the script where Indy is suspicious after dinner scene saying to Short Round something like Hindus consider life sacred and makes you wonder what’s really going on here.

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  4. Regarding Temple of Doom’s racism controversy: I don’t recall if it was stated in the final cut of the film, but the banquet was actually what tipped Indy off to something being wrong in Pankot, because the food was all things that no Hindu would willingly eat. I could’ve l sworn there was a deleted scene where Indy explicitly states that, but I can’t find it anywhere. However, it is canon, and is at least stated in The Ultimate Guide.

    There’s no defending the Thuggee brownface, though. Not sure whether that’s as bad as or worse than Indy’s… uh, “past” with Marion (seriously, what the HELL were they thinking?)

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  5. Virginia “Madison?”
    Lawrence “Oliver?”
    C’mon, you’ve got to be doing this on purpose, man!
    Aside from your hilariously bad pronunciation of names, I’m still an enjoyer of your work. Good job as usual!

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  6. A fun little iceberg entry regarding the music: there’s evidence that John Williams wrote a concert version of the new Naz— err, Axis Powers themes in Dial of Destiny and then largely scrapped it.

    The only evidence is that there are two spots of the soundtrack where pieces of it were edited in. The brass fanfare at the start of the Axis Power themes in the end credits (Prologue on the OST) appears to be the opening, while the final 30 seconds or so of “Voller’s Return” is the closing. The rest of the piece is unheard.

    We know this because of the public cue sheet database for the movie listing a unique cue titled “N*zis” in those spots and only those spots. There’s a forum post that goes into more detail about it, but that’s the gist of it.

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  7. I heard online that the fridge scene was actually taken from early drafts of back to the future, and Steven Spielberg just had it in the back of his mind without anything to use it on for so long so he decided to throw it into Indiana Jones when the opportunity presented itself.

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  8. I have to assume that Indy being a part of the Society of Explorers and Adventures mythology is in a different iceberg or more obscure than I thought 😂 a parks iceberg would be great if that isn’t covered yet

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  9. Temple of Doom is hard to talk about because it's definitely racist, whether it was a 'product of its time' or the film is just being misinterpreted, doesn't really change that fact. If people have to DEBATE whether or not something is racist, it probably is. However, I also still believe it to be a good film weirdly enough. I dunno what that says about me, but so be it.

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