Mars is an alien world, and loaded with wonders that we’ve never seen on Earth. And yet, none of our rovers have ever explored these places! Why? And how do we avoid the same mistakes with our first manned mission to the Red Planet?
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Exploring the Valles Marineris and the Tharsis Volcanoes in one mission!!
https://www.space.com/mars-grand-canyon-valles-marineris-exploration
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I think you've made an excellent argument. Send a copy to Elon.
Noticed that spot on photographic maps a long time ago and thought it looks like a good spot for a landing, but as those clever people at NASA weren’t interested was because it really wasn’t that flat. Or perhaps it would be an ideal spot to search for life signs, so defiantly a bad idea for lander.
NEVER BEEN THERE AND NEVER WILL- AWAKEN FROM LIES B- PEACE
For about 10 years I have been planning the largest and heaviest industrial site in the Solar System, under the summit massif of Ascraeus Mons. Take a look at the structure of the caldera complex, it's vaguely like Mickey Mouse. The western "ear" is a superb rocket base site and suitable location to start TBM operations under the northern massif to excavate the facility. But just to the south of that mountain, directly east to west, the natural terrain forms a near-parabola 3km deep and 50km wide. A Gauss gun launcher there, capable of imparting 20g acceleration to cargo, would lob the products up 9000km suborbitally; at that point solid rocket motors made from indigenous perchlorates and atmosphere-harvested polyethylene could circularize an orbit. Finally, robot tugs with ion engines could rendezvous and bring the parts to a shipyard in Stickney Crater on Phobos for assembly in milligee conditions. Obviously, this is not happening soon, but perhaps in a century it will be feasible. Gravity is really, REALLY handy for casting and machining metal components!
"The Spot" is the same thing as [subject matter].
consensus on the subject matter, we need.
you can pick the subject matter according to excusability.
or
you can pick the subject matter then find one that is excusable. (preferable)
Dude, I have to ask what is your malfunction… I mean do you pop negative pills or what?
#approaching_limits_of_human_stupidity
Excellent work here Jordan, again! This is one of those few videos that I couldn't hit the like button on enough. I wish that I could convey the beauty (and sometimes its opposite) of Mars with full expression in this comment section. In theory, Mars is a rocky world with many mineral resources; from a practical standpoint, Mars is a planet suited for industrialization. Incredibly cold at night and yet sometimes temperate during the day, as you highlight, there is so much that we here on the surface of Earth do not know about our planetary neighbor. As I have always said, our rovers are in the deep Martian desert. Taking stock of what we can prove about Mars so far, the moment that mankind took upon itself the desire to set foot on Mars, when the first settlers set their feet on the surface, it still stands that the singular most important task before them is to establish a baseline of whether our presence on Mars as civilization is singular. For most of us, this question is still yet to be answered in an official capacity. When discoveries in areas around the equatorial region and other zones like lava tubes are academically published, so many of us will realize just how wrong about Mars we were. Ideally, the atmosphere ought to be something like 90% Nitrogen, 8% Oxygen, 2% remainder gasses. Wide plains and canyons might easily give way to heavy rail networks, transporting raw materials and the assembled technologies into which they are fabricated from one settlement to another. Theoretically, habitation units might be at the feet of the great dormant volcanoes, in addition to dome-ing craters and sealing off lava tubes. Preferentially, fabricating facilities, and even landing areas, are on the surface. Outposts and forward bases might be tunnel-bored into mountains. Mars Colony Corporation, so many possibilities. Of course, most of these great feats were only possible with the help of our faraway friends, a concept which is tied up into the highest levels of our national security state itself. In the end, this discussion is not about Mars herself, though she is fascinating; it's about us. It's about recognizing our mistakes as a society so far, and exposing ourselves to and accepting the best practices of not only those among us who have a positive agenda for humanity, but those of other civilizations as well.
Again great video Angry, watching the flyby's re-informs my opinion that we will need some kind of aerial transport, something that can get people 100 km or more in any direction and attitude. Maybe you could make a video about options for Marsian helicopters or zeppelins.
Please forward this plan to Elon.
Instead of trying to terraform mars at one go why not terraform at a portion at a time? My solutution would be to use A.I robots and 3D printing technology to create biospheres or habitable zones on mars before we take the fools chance to ship ourselves off to a hostile and inhabitable planet. Elon Musk, JeffBezos and Richard Branson must pool their resources together instead of wasting time and money with this who has the bigger penis warfare.
There's microsoft, there's META and there's Google and that's A.I robotics place.
Put your resources together that way getting to and staying alive on Mars will become a greater possibility for us to get there.
my dream, pick a boring place with likelyhood of having ice.bsend 2 starship jambpacked with solar panels, followed by 2 starship packed with teslabots. lets say tou are able to ship about 1500 of them in eacj ship. then fill up 1 starship with simple tools (shovels, rakes, ice melting pots and similar. these bots could build a human habitable base with in situ materials). and they could explore the whole planet. a well constructed teslabot could carry a whole range of sensors, cameras with wide spectrum sensors, spectrometers for analysis, haptic feedback to humans to get a feel for materials properties and so forth. done right it could even be better than a physical visit as that would require you to wear a space suit which actually prevents tactile sensors input.
Very convincing. Hope NASA watches your vids.
Also hope that Elon hurries up, as we might not have decades to establish a self-sustaining colony on another planet…
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlRk6NjlCe4"
PS Guy McPherson projections, backed by the IPCC and peer-reviewed scientific papers
PS I thought we(he) should do this in Antarctica, but it will only work if it is kept a secret. Not possible IMO. Love to hear opinions…
I have a question if they don’t have the technology to go to the moon so what kind technology are they using to go to Mars 🤔
What amazing discoveries? Mars is dead. Maybe some bacteria is alive out there but so what?
Looking down through a space helmet with a suit on etc. I don't think your cliff view will be that great, it will look like watching something on TV. Not living it.
Love the episode…but just like the moon….They will NEVER LET US SEE WHATS REALLY THERE….and that is just sad
CYDONIA!
People won't land or launch on starship.
Surely
Hopefully there's oil in Mars.
I bet it will be super easy to drill really fukn deep.
Surely there's liquid water and warmth underground.
I'd say around 2039-2040, when earthlings finally arrive on mars.
I think landing near a lava tube is the best way to survive on Mars. It has shielding from radiation, the entrance can be walled up, and it provides protection from micrometeoroids. If one can be found near the southern or northern ice caps that would be a big bonus.
I don't know if multi cellular like could have developed on Mars. We only got it once we gad an oxygen atmosphere, and sea, 541 million years ago.
Hard to argue with most of your rant.
there is no need to go to Mars. 1= anyone going there will have to be hairless, toothless, vasectomy, no uterus. they could not afford a caries, miscarriage, or anything that here we take for granted,. There is no cheese, no wine, no prime rib, No where you could buy a pint of Guiness, or 50 mg of coke. Any medical emergency will have to wait 2 years until Earth and Mars align. Build rotating stations around Earth, cheaper, faster.
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That intro was giving me goosebumps of anticipation and excitement.
Then it was all swept away in half a breath.
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BTW, if these are "river valleys " can someone explain where all the outflow is? Just asking a simple logical question.
And where else can you point to a volcanoe that is surrounded by a steep escarpment? Literally nowhere.
Will McDonalds open it's first restaurant before or after NASA lands humans on Mars ?
I forgot that you were the angry space guy. Access to water is key, but I understand the need for excitement.
The first Starship to land on Mars will put down 200x more usable mass than has ever been set down on mars. Crazy to contemplate the sheer scale of Elon's ambition. And he ain't stopping at 1, 10 or 100 Starships even.
One thing left out from this video is the fact that to this date nothing has landed anywhere on Mars that isn't below the mean surface altitude or "sea level". There is a very simple reason for this – atmospheric pressure decreases exponentially with altitude and any vehicle that relies on aerodynamic forces for landing needs the denser air found below sea level. Starship is no different in this regard. Therefore unless you escape this paradigm, half of Mars and most of the southern Hemisphere of Mars is off limits as a landing site.
There is of course a solution to this and it comes in the form of a fully propulsive (and fully reusable) lander and ascent vehicle. This would of course be crew-only, but it would have the advantage of landing humans safely on Mars, independently of cargo (which would use conventional landers). A fully propulsive landing is also far less stress to the crew. You're talking about typically 1.5 gs of deceleration, versus 5 to 6 gs on Starship.
Plus, you have the capability to land anywhere on Mars – even on Olympus Mons. I notice that in the video no mention is made of the sheer distances and difficulty in getting from the proposed landing site to some of those volcanos. We're talking hundreds of kilometres (further to Olympus Mons). We're talking weeks in large, energy intensive, highly capable vehicles. Where you will be exposed to radiation and solar storms. On the other hand, a fully propulsive lander/ascent vehicle could surface hop and return you in hours.
Im from Ecuador, and is really different to live in the coast and in the high andes summits. Noctis seem nice, but is a couple of kms too way up.
No where on Mars in Starship, not gonna happen. Not now, not ever.