In this lecture, I discuss the basic issue of genocide in the Joshua Conquest story. I touch on the basic points of the problem, the archaeology, and the history. This lecture serves as a primer for my university class discussion.
3 thoughts on “The "Angry God" and Canaanite Genocide || Dr Trevan Hatch || Strangers in Jerusalem”
Thanks for the lecture. I finished watching all of your content that I could find on YouTube after I saw your Gospel Tangents interview, and was hoping for more posts.
Then 2 posts from your class material. Perfect timing!
In the course of my learning these two treatises came up over the past couple years which came to mind when I watched yours, Dr..
Any comments on or thoughts to keep in mind, from your perspective, when considering the below types of claims and opinions?
https://youtu.be/DeSxMJON-_c Eastern Orthodox Fr. Stephen De Young "God is a man of war" (1+hr) Re: Cananite killings limited in scope or reason to certain kinds of idolaters and human sacrificers. Also includes treatment on "gigantomochy".
https://youtu.be/2yp4TTj6FnA Protestant & Dr. of Hebrew Bible & Semitic Languages, Michael Heiser (~8min) Re: Israelite Conquest. Treating on the terminology mainly–"not only killing"
• In the movie clip the prisoners had three judges. This wouldn’t be considered a minyan? Or was a minyan not necessary?
• Then there is the question of divine impassibility: If we are talking about an angry God, then we believe God is passable, or has emotions? Do we believe God is without body, parts, and passions (as per The Westminster Confession), or not?
• This issue was discussed by Christian Paul Copan in 2 books: “Is God a Moral Monster?: Making Sense of the Old Testament God.” (Grand Rapids: Baker, 2011.) and “Did God Really Command Genocide? Coming to Terms with the Justice of God.” Baker Books. Oct 2014.
• Dennis Prager (Jew) also discussed faith and the Holocaust in chapter 39 of his book “Think A Second Time.” For other Jewish perspectives, see Fasching’s “Narrative Theology After Auschwitz: From Alienation to Ethics” and R. Kushner’s “When Bad Things Happen to Good People”
• The Euthyphro Question: Plato, in the dialogue Euthyphro, discusses piety. He asks, when God commands up to do something, is it good because He commands it, or since it is inherently good, He commands it. That is, does God make something moral by a positive or constructive decree, or do good things have a goodness inherent and independent of God? Is there a code of ethics that is independent and co-eternal with God? If there is an ethical standard independent of God then we can ask this question. But if there is no ethical standard independent of God, then we can’t ask this question. Everything God does and commands, by definition and by nature, is good.
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Thanks for the lecture. I finished watching all of your content that I could find on YouTube after I saw your Gospel Tangents interview, and was hoping for more posts.
Then 2 posts from your class material. Perfect timing!
In the course of my learning these two treatises came up over the past couple years which came to mind when I watched yours, Dr..
Any comments on or thoughts to keep in mind, from your perspective, when considering the below types of claims and opinions?
https://youtu.be/DeSxMJON-_c
Eastern Orthodox Fr. Stephen De Young
"God is a man of war" (1+hr)
Re: Cananite killings limited in scope or reason to certain kinds of idolaters and human sacrificers. Also includes treatment on "gigantomochy".
https://youtu.be/2yp4TTj6FnA
Protestant & Dr. of Hebrew Bible & Semitic Languages, Michael Heiser
(~8min)
Re: Israelite Conquest. Treating on the terminology mainly–"not only killing"
Some points:
• In the movie clip the prisoners had three judges. This wouldn’t be considered a minyan? Or was a minyan not necessary?
• Then there is the question of divine impassibility: If we are talking about an angry God, then we believe God is passable, or has emotions? Do we believe God is without body, parts, and passions (as per The Westminster Confession), or not?
• This issue was discussed by Christian Paul Copan in 2 books: “Is God a Moral Monster?: Making Sense of the Old Testament God.” (Grand Rapids: Baker, 2011.) and “Did God Really Command Genocide? Coming to Terms with the Justice of God.” Baker Books. Oct 2014.
• Dennis Prager (Jew) also discussed faith and the Holocaust in chapter 39 of his book “Think A Second Time.” For other Jewish perspectives, see Fasching’s “Narrative Theology After Auschwitz: From Alienation to Ethics” and R. Kushner’s “When Bad Things Happen to Good People”
• The Euthyphro Question: Plato, in the dialogue Euthyphro, discusses piety. He asks, when God commands up to do something, is it good because He commands it, or since it is inherently good, He commands it. That is, does God make something moral by a positive or constructive decree, or do good things have a goodness inherent and independent of God? Is there a code of ethics that is independent and co-eternal with God? If there is an ethical standard independent of God then we can ask this question. But if there is no ethical standard independent of God, then we can’t ask this question. Everything God does and commands, by definition and by nature, is good.