Sweden, Lockdown was never on the agenda
Dr. Anders Tegnell
‘Lockdown was never on the agenda in Sweden’
Sweden’s state epidemiologist (medical)
UK, SPI-B (Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviour)
To increase adherence,
“perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased”
Professor Neil Ferguson (Imperial College)
Letting the virus spread freely in the UK
510,000 deaths
Anders Tegnell
“If you put numbers into models and you don’t know those numbers are fairly much correct, you can arrive at very, very strange results.”
“You need to weigh together different sources of science and then you can maybe arrive at something that’s reasonably, hopefully true,”
“And you need to really double-check and see if you get more people doing the same thing before you can feel reasonably safe. But to rely very much on just one study, one model, that’s quite dangerous.”
Swedish people, advised to work from home wherever possible
Ban on gatherings of over 50 people
A few rules for restaurants
Other Covid measures, entirely voluntary
Johan Giesecke, (previous state epidemiologist)
“apolitical – one of those people who did what they were supposed to without reflecting too much on what was expedient or politically viable at the time”
Anders Tegnell
“If you go back to the Spanish flu (1918-19), you can find instances when they tried to lock things down,”
“But in all the pandemic plans we have been discussing during the last decades, closing down a society has never even been on the agenda.”
Shutting down short term?
“I mean, if you know that your healthcare system needs a few weeks to ramp up the ICU and so on, there are instances when such things can be a solution.”
Airborne respiratory virus was going to sweep through the population anyway,
The best you could hope for was to slow it down while protecting the vulnerable
The cost of lockdown would be horrifyingly high
Was the world influenced by China?
‘China is, of course, a state where draconian things like that can be done,”
“And it did work to a certain extent.
So, for a while, there was an idea that we should have very strict measures like a hammer coming down. Bam!
Bring the hammer down hard and then take the hammer away and then sort of let it slowly build up again and then, bam!
But that never worked.”
“We learn quite soon that it’s easy to start having different kinds of restrictions, but it’s very difficult to stop having them.”
No billboards with scary pictures of Covid patients,
no masks, no street furniture of fear
Mobile phone records, Swedes chose to restrict travel and social activities
People told it was safest to be outdoors
Swedish national parks very busy
Denmark and Norway
Closed all schools on March 11th
Sweden
Over-16s and university, moved to remote learning
Younger children, in class as normal
March 13, Johan Giesecke to Anders Tegnell
Don’t you know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?
Anders Tegnell
“The world has gone mad”
In Sweden, it’s even written into the law that the health care should be driven by evidence-based medicine and that was so quickly left behind in other places.”
Stefan Lofven, Sweden’s prime minister
Played no part in the 2pm daily press briefings
Telegraph
there was no baying for blood like there was from the British media as broadcasters with GCSE biology screeched at hapless UK ministers to hurry up and shut the schools.
source
It's a bit strange to hear some of the things Tegnell admit to now, since he maintained a very strong conviction about covid NOT being airbourne throughout most of the pandemic. It was quite obvious to those with at least a little bit of critical thinking that it most probably was airbourne, but Tegnell still kept saying it was only transmitted through drops.
About the rising deaths noe, I'm quite sure it's because so many people didn't seek medical advice or care during the pandrmic, as everyone was urged not to. Now, for example, all the cancer cases that are discovered, are too far gone to do much about. That was the case with my own mother, who two years ago didn't want to go to the doctor for a bit of stomach ache. She's dead now. Grim, but true.
And about Sweden not getting the scary media pictures: we did get those, too. Lots of horrifying reports about ICU- patients, pictures and in nterviews.
So Sweden was very much like all the other countries, just as scared, but not locked down, something that felt a bit strange at the time.
Many thanks for clear information. Sweden did indeed wrong regarding the elderly in nursing homes, so sad, so unfair. Many families didn't have the opportunity to join their old relatives, who had to die alone 😢
good work.dont forget to rest john
The Media and Political Insanity bled into the Micro society whereby ppl were beaten on the street in Canada for not wearing a mask outside! It was Mass Hysteria and justification for violence. Doctors and Nurses who refused to care for ppl who weren't Inocculated! Mass Insanity
I'm not sure if you've covered death reporting. Here in the States, any CV19+ decedent was counted as a death. I even remember a health official saying with complete sincerity that a guy was a CV19 death even though he died in a motorcycle accident and tested positive post mortem.
“All models are wrong, some are useful.” -George Box 1976
Sweden's average annual deaths 2015-2019 was 90,962 and 2020-2022 was 94,939. A 4.4% increase. No western country did better. Ie, lockdowns failed
Actual numbers:
2015 90,907
2016 90,982
2017 91,972
2018 92,185
2019 88,766
2020 98,124
2021 91,958
2022 94,737
…is it actually clear that sweden and the rest have the same testing methods/numbers… etc of covid cases and "potentially dead by covid"-cases put into relation?
those total numbers might not be worth as much as they might seem… and should put into context of economic, psychological and just damage of moraliy/freedom etc, too
Always happy to have my big but sugar coated 😂
Sweden is a highly vaccinated country
We were all TOLD lockdowns would be "two weeks to flatten the curve", to reduce pressure on an under-prepared medical community. After a week, this sensible enough rationale, used to initiate the lockdown procedure vanished, quickly got memory-holed and treated as if it never existed. After third week of lockdown authorities began guilt/shame tactics against concerned citizens questioning what appeared to them as an evidently compromised or disingenuous decision making process. A similar pattern repeated itself for 2-3 yrs.
Lockdowns a completely ridiculous waste of time.
stupid people in Scandinavia died of the cold, so their average iq is higher, they are more difficult to deceive, they seem to have more capable leaders.
This is what we need, an honest debrief of what happened. When any critic of the mRNA vaccine speaks to an empty House of Commons, you realise that the politicians of this country are incapable of debating the true facts to give a logical,intelligent response to the next pandemic.
Sweden only had 72% of its population vaccinated by then (bivalent? who knows) So much for natural immunity
There may be an unspoken rationale to the ongoing changes like difficulty visiting GPs etc. Frees up NHS money to pay for important workers like diversity consultants
Thank you for confirmation that lockdowns don't work but they do cause depression, shortages, lacking and crush business. hmm
First, let me say how much I have appreciated Dr Campbell (who is uncannily like my late English GP/lecturer father) over the last three years. Well done! I have especially appreciated Dr Campbell's coverage and discussion of countries other than the USA and the UK, such as my own Australia.
But I think this video has a major flaw, and is therefore rash and unfounded. In effect, the data has been cherry-picked to use almost the only developed countries that had worse results than Sweden: the UK and the USA.
The evidence simply does not support the conclusion: for a start because it is comparing apples (Sweden, not major transit/tourism hub, 60% urban, cold weather, homogenous population and culture, compliant to government recommendation, restrictions but no enforced lockdowns) with oranges (UK, major transit/tourism hub, 84% urban, cold weather, heterogenous population and cultures, some non-compliant population, poor border closure and on-off lockdowns too-little too late; or USA, major transit/tourism hubs, 78%urban, much different weather, heterogenous population and cultures, very non-compliant, poor border closure and lockdowns different in each state.)
What would have been comparing apples with apples? Compare with other Scandi populations in non-transit-hub cold places with over 5 million population: Norway (1%), Denmark (1.4%) and Minnesota (32% Scandis). All of which had enforced lockdowns and restrictions, more systematic and rational than the UK and other US states. And that comparison: Sweden 2.3% deaths, Norway 1%, Denmark 1.4%, Minnesota 0.3%. So comparing these apples with apples, Sweden's no-lockdown policy was a disaster; if the population were not compliant to voluntary measures, were more urbanized, and if it were a transit hub, it would have been much worse.
Dr Campbell did mention the on-off nature of the lockdowns, only to then ignore them. What if we compare developed countries with more urbanization which managed to enforce border restrictions before it was too late, and which had systematic, targetted lockdowns aimed at hitting hard fast? Lets look at Australia (82% urban, transit hub, highly compliant population when explained to) which had 0.7% death rate (up now with Omicron and non-lockdowns), and New Zealand with 0.5% only.
So the fact is that it is the lockdowns done the right way (fast, hard, targetted, systematic, gradually withdrawn), in conjunction with border and other measures, in developed countries where the population is rational and compliant, which did best. Islands and islandable countries did best (think Taiwan and Japan too): Sweden should have been such, but it failed.
You simply cannot say "Sweden did better without lockdowns". It did worse than comparable countries. And you cannot simply transpose the UK and US experience of lockdowns as if they are some kind of example of doing things well and right.
It was the swedish constitution that stoped Lockdowns in Sweden, not Anders Tegnell. And it is not 23 000 covid deaths in sweden, it is less.
According to this videos title, that will be different next fraud, because with Ulf Kristersson they have now a member of the WEF as PM. Stefan Löfven was ditched by false accusations, just another lie of the WEF. The WEF and its members are the ultimate evil, if they are not stopped they gonna extinct mankind. WEF stands for Dystopia, the opposite of an Utopia like in Gene Roddenberry’s beautiful vision Star Trek. That is the path to the future we should walk. Individualism over centralism. The best example centralism will finally fail is the hive system of the Borg. They assimilate knowledge and technology but for that they no longer do research and develop what is finally the reason for their annihilation. That’s exactly what the WEF and the big tech companies are doing. The technology in an iPhone exists since the before WW2, it only has been refined for greed, making consumer products serving the needs of a few, not the many. True inventions serving the many have been blocked since the electric light bulb became a consumer product. Nicola Tesla a tragical one. Read about the research of Nassim Haramein (PhD in applied physics and quantum mechanics). His formulas proof we could use an infinite amount of energy without violating ART and QED. He is defamed and denunciated. The WEF and the evil forces behind it must be stopped. And replaced by a peaceful symbiosis of humans and A.I. It is not necessary to decimate mankind, like the genocide planned by WEF. It is also not necessary to use herbicides and pesticides for agriculture. The planet can feed 14 billion humans without poisoning the soil, there are plenty studies about that. Food is destroyed for keeping market prices, that’s the reason for famines. The CO₂ caused climate change is also a lie and rip-off. If you calculate it correctly, the greenhouse effect of the water vapour in the atmosphere is about a million times higher as the one of man caused CO₂. For that the CO₂ mankind produces is irrelevant, so is CH₄ (methane).
Bring that at 3:27 in relation. It’s per million and for that nothing. The confirmed figures are totally fake anyway because everyone tested positive is counted as C victim. Independent of being terminal palliative patient or the brain smashed by an accident.
According to this videos title, that will be different next fraud, because with Ulf Kristersson they have now a member of the WEF as PM. Stefan Löfven was ditched by false accusations, just another lie of the WEF. The WEF and its members are the ultimate evil, if they are not stopped they gonna extinct mankind. WEF stands for Dystopia, the opposite of an Utopia like in Gene Roddenberry’s beautiful vision Star Trek. That is the path to the future we should walk. Individualism over centralism. The best example centralism will finally fail is the hive system of the Borg. They assimilate knowledge and technology but for that they no longer do research and develop what is finally the reason for their annihilation. That’s exactly what the WEF and the big tech companies are doing. The technology in an iPhone exists since the before WW2, it only has been refined for greed, making consumer products serving the needs of a few, not the many. True inventions serving the many have been blocked since the electric light bulb became a consumer product. Nicola Tesla a tragical one. Read about the research of Nassim Haramein (PhD in applied physics and quantum mechanics). His formulas proof we could use an infinite amount of energy without violating ART and QED. He is defamed and denunciated. The WEF and the evil forces behind it must be stopped. And replaced by a peaceful symbiosis of humans and A.I. It is not necessary to decimate mankind, like the genocide planned by WEF. It is also not necessary to use herbicides and pesticides for agriculture. The planet can feed 14 billion humans without poisoning the soil, there are plenty studies about that. Food is destroyed for keeping market prices, that’s the reason for famines. The CO₂ caused climate change is also a lie and rip-off. If you calculate it correctly, the greenhouse effect of the water vapour in the atmosphere is about a million times higher as the one of man caused CO₂. For that the CO₂ mankind produces is irrelevant, so is CH₄ (methane).
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