How much aquarium volume should a reef hobbyist allocate to a sump vs their show tank?
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Can corals be fat? That guys corals look heavy duty.
in hindsight….after two years since setting up my system, I would go with a larger sump. can you do a video of a visit to your friends house you mentioned in the video? that would be awesome!
No sump, yes biology and chemistry
My approach always has been to purchase as large of a system as your budget allows mainly for stability of the water parameters. This time around I purchased a nano tank and stand from a box pet store. If I decided to do another tank I would go with a 75-90 gallon tank then design a modular equipment cabinet with a wet side for a large sump with room to accommodate the biological filtration, refugium, skimmer, plumbing & other wet equipment. I would also have a dry side for lighting control, tool storage, electronics such as an Apex or Hydros systems, automated parameter testing & dosing equipment. I would also want the cabinet to be accessible from from two sides as well. I have outgrown the amount of space avail. inside my current cabinet. I have started utilizing the outside of the cabinet to mount equipment as tastefully as possible. I will most likely end up upgrading at some point here in the next year or so. I forsee the hobby moving towards more user friendly automation to make the hobby more appealing and less complicated to more people who may not necessarily understand the science involved with reef keeping.
If that is the case , then I would argue that a longer stand than the display stand is what is needed . I have a 4x2x2 , 120 gallon display stand that sits on a 6ft stand .
In this longer than the display stand , I used a 3×1.5×1.5ft sump , it has room for a Supermarine sm250 skimmer , various reactor and dosing pump . The remaining space in that stand has a 5 gallon bucket for ato connected to an external kalkwasser reactor . Dosing pump container took up the still spacious area of the stand .
I do have some space in that longer stand that sometimes I hide various purchases in it . Everything that is needed for this 120 gallon tank to function is in this 6ft stand , only the chiller is located outside of this 6ft stand .
A sump to me is really like a car airbag. I keep them on my displays because they could be the savior to any contamination by diluting contaminants as well as providing a more available amount of nutrients.
No sump. The "need" for a sump, skimmer, uv… are the biggest myths in reefing.
Plumb to sewer line.
I would definitely go with a 40 gallon breeder and for a sump same 40 gallon sump for the price of 1 dollar per gallon or even retail it’s so much better with a sump bigger filteration area, a bigger skimmer ect.. some of these all in one tanks are overpriced and small back filter area and you must use there filter socks, and some don’t always have room for skimmers.
I have a sump because it was used and $20.
I’ve ran the same tank sumpless and then drilled the same tank added sump. The best I’ve had was no sump or filter just wave makers and a skimmer coral never looked so good also zero water changes in all 3 of my reef tanks
I always say , Don't take dump without a big sump 😊. I know I need a life 😊
This is a fantastic topic to get into.
I know I went through a similar debate with my current Reef tank. It's on the second floor, in a loft. So I set a hard limit of 100 gallons total. I finally settled on a 75 gallon display with a 30 gallon sump; that runs about 90 total gallons. But, I belabored that debate for months with no clear answer.
As for the future, I'm in the build process of my next tank as we speak. First up, it's going to the basement and a concrete floor with no practical weight concern or flood risk. The new custom 72x36x20"H 220 gallon tank is sitting on a 30"H aluminum stand (directly inspired by your farm), and there is a second smaller stand attached forming an "L" shape for my current 75 gallon tank to join it; both will be plumbed into the same sump. Both displays will be in what will become my future office/man cave and the 70 gallon sump will sit behind the wall in a stairwell closet on a much shorter stand. I also like that having two displays will allow me to focus on one large SPS dominant tank, and a smaller LPS dominated tank; catering to the difference in flow and light, but I'll still have only one set of filtration and dosing solutions.
It's still about 2 years out from being complete on my budget, but a lot of the design was greatly informed by taking notes of your systems, Reef Bum's, BRS's and a host of other content creators who thankfully share your lessons learned; so hobbiest's like me don't have to learn them the hard way.
Thank you for the wonderful insight, and the well informed debates.
imo it depends on what you want out of the hobby.
If you want to watch a little piece of the ocean indoors, in your home, your priority is on the display. My oldest system is running on a canister filter, grows both chaeto and prolifera inside the display in spots that I've picked for them, with an in tank skimmer, and grows coral from xenia to acro with no issues.
If you want to have that clean in-tank appearance, and want to really up your stocking level of fish, then you want a sump that will allow you to have a bigger skimmer, and at least one refugium to grow out macro without seeing any of that in the tank.
If you want to really go all-in on the chemistry maintenance to never have any question as to what your levels are, or just have a high level of automation, then the bigger the sump the better.
I’m starting to think Than wants a 60g sump with no display
Anyway we can get an update with and on Becka’s tanks . Thank you
Just curious if you can tell me where you buy your T Slot Bars from?
The style with most aquarium systems is to have a stand that is the same size as the tank above for a clean aesthetic. I prefer to have a stand with a larger footprint than the tank above it, it gives you more room for gear in the stand, and a nice ledge to set stuff on when your working on the tank . But you don’t want it too big, you don’t want to have a shelf collecting junk around your tank taking away from it.
My new tank is a 40 Breeder with 20 Gallon long Sump with plenty of room to upgrade