Kennedy and her activists have been going full anti-Lucas on the Star Wars franchise since they took over .
On top of that, they intended to replace the original, REAL, PROFITABLE, Star Wars fans with a new 'modern audience'.
Unfortunately for them, when The Acolyte, which represented Kathleen Kennedy's ultimate vision for the Star Wars franchise, and which she spent the last decade, deliberately and systematically destroying George Lucas's legacy for, the 'modern audience' the activists were counting on, just couldn't make it.
I like the note of having an “actual ending” when if I recall correctly none of the Disney Star Wars shows or movies have a definitive end. Every show ends on a cliff hanger and the movies that don’t have these open ended endings that heavily imply a sequel every time.
In reference to 11:10, black guy here that saw SW original trilogy on their opening nights. I don't recall any of us thinking we could be any of the characters until Lando was introduced. We did relate to the message of revolution. Luke, Han, & Leia where viewed much like Superman. White people that were allowed to do cool things. Sounds racist, yes, But considering Lando being submissive to a more powerful entitles and being supportive of other peoples goals, we could not only relate to Lando, we identified with him and his decisions. And yes, at 8 we understood this because we discussed these things with our parents after school.
To this day I don't understand why they deleted all of the EU. All they had to do is pick the best stories and made movie/show adaptations of these stories and they still could've kept all of the EU canon. More than half the work is done at that point all you needed is good directors and actors for the adaptations and everyone would be happy. It's just hilarious how that decision comes back to bite them in the ass constantly because their stuff just sucks compared to the EU.
Like it's so dumb that they put diversity twice or even once, like that's a no-brainer.It's Star Wars.Of course it's going to be diverse have they ever watched a movie in their life
TLDR – they failed on each point from that list. I. FICTION: 1. Authentically lived in – FAILED ❌ – that was already in Star Wars since the beginning – it's called "used future". 2. Surprise – FAILED ❌- The indeed surprised us with only crap since Diznuts bought the franchise. 3.Diversity – FAILED ❌- There was always diversity in Star Wars. 4. Actual ending – FAILED ❌- They couldn't write a proper ending to any series or movies they made. 5. Feelings – FAILED ❌- They focused on modernity terms. 6. Relatable characters – FAILED ❌- They lost the plot on what relatable means and focused on creating characters so certain demographics can relate to which is plain stupid. 7. Sweeping/epic – FAILED ❌- Nothing they made was even remote to being epic. 8. Humor – FAILED ❌- They can't write humor even if it's handed to them.
II. STAR WARS: 1. Not pro-war – FAILED -❌- Star Wars was always about wars. It's in its fucking name – WARS! 2. Droids – FAILED- ❌- There were always droids in Star Wars. 3. Scope – FAILED – ❌- There was scope in Star Wars. It was called The Expanded Universe. They canceled it. 4. Mythic – FAILED – ❌- They already had that in the cancelled Expanded Universe. 5. Space and Lightsaber battles – FAILED/ Almost success – The only good space battle they had was in Rogue One. All of the lightsaber ones were huge fails. 6. No single (main) character – FAILED – ❌- They can't write any type of characters nor main or secondary. 7. The Force – HUGE FAIL ❌- George destroyed the mysticism of the Force when it reveled it as being made outta micro organisms – midiclorians and Diznuts made it as anyone can use the Force, 8. Complicated monsters – FAILED- ❌- Anything they created on that aspect was nothing but mediocre nor complex.
III. STAR WARS WISHES: 1. High Republic – FAILED – ❌- the most boring and useless era in the franchise, no wonder it get cancelled. 2. Relic Hunters – FAILED – ❌- They had that in the cancelled E.U. – jedi/sith holocrons. 3. University – FAILED – ❌- They already have the Jedi Academy and the Sith Academy. 4. Dinosaurs – whatever. 5. Representation/diversity – ❌- read I. Fiction (3,6). 6. Arthurian legends -❌- They had a lot of those in the cancelled EU instead they wrote lame ass CW worthy fan fiction. 7. Rival Houses – ❌- they had those types in the cancelled EU. 8. Sith Empire – ❌- They only wrote a few lame ass Sith characters. They had a sith Empire in the cancelled EU. 9. Chaos agents – ❌- Read II. STAR WARS (6). 10. Splinter groups force-users – ❌- a splinter group is a political group.
I also disagree with you on Andor. That was a well written series that was able to stand in its own with limited help from established characters etc. well reasoned characters and character arcs, logical plot progression and motivations. Excellent world building and cinematography.
I might be wrong but the Star Wars column with the heart, is that supposed to be what they love about Star Wars and then the wishes column is what they want to see more of? Either way they failed this franchise in spectacular fashion and it'll take a miracle of galactic proportions to bring it back.
To me that list reveals that the room was filled with several idiots – not master of the obvious – "Dinosaurs" is what a neophyte would use to describe "strange and giant creatures". "Chaos Agents" sounds like someone was trying to come up with a generic term for events and people who introduce chaos into the plot, like crime gangs, political leaders etc – again, just like "actual ending", this is just a function of something called plot. This entire list smells like diversity hires.
They ruined High Republic by making lots of educational childrens books, even similar to those some churches produce. There would be plenty of stuff going on, just no major wars, uprising or rebellions. The usual crime, smuggle, personal drama, planetary secession, corruption, political backstabbing, drugs, independent force user-sects, exploration of the galaxy, etc. could have happened.
"The Writer's Group" as a whole was ridiculous from the start. It was Star Wars by committee – a committee built along Stalinist lines. And as such, it was staffed not by artists, but by political hacks.
This is what happens when you try to manufacture art. It takes the soul right out of it. Also, one thing you don't see on the list is: what fans want. If this were all about 'capitalism' than the customer would come first. But no, it's about 'religious' zealotry.
The issue is that they hired people to write star wars who don't care about the lore. That's it. Fire these people and hire people who respect the lore.
The truth is: SOME of The High Republic Multimedia Initiative is good-to-excellent. However, due to SOME of the writers ("Dinosaurs!") in that enterprise bringing in extraneous, esoteric, decidedly earthly fringe sociopolitical ideas ("If you don't share my political beliefs…don't read my books!") and concepts in to its nucleus and execution, there are parts of it that just bring its overall quality down. Also, some of those same writers also possessed and expressed rather unsavory, combative dispositions on social media platforms, directing it at SW Fans.
However, as someone who has read about 67% of all of its 3 Phases, I can confidently say that The High Republic is a powerful, relevant block of epic SW storytelling within the overall SWU. Funny: I've read 2 books and a comics series depicting Yoda in its action, and he seems very much authentic and aligned with Lucas' portrayal of him in The OT, The PT, and TCW. Which stories in this series have you read, to make you draw your conclusion? Yaddle gets some serious love and agency, as well. Overall, The Jedi (and Force-users, in general) are really cool, during this Golden Age in the galaxy. This story is unique, because it takes place during a period of relative felicity in the known galaxy…however, a sin was apparently committed (centuries earlier), involving both The Republic and The Jedi Order, and Marchion Ro and his Nihil are the ones that have come to prosecute and punish them for their deeds. The concept of a rather lethal, hidden planet (similar to Tanalorr, in JEDI: Survivor, which also has direct connections to The High Republic Era) that is, "ruled by The Force" (both The Light & The Dark), is fascinating, and truly original. The fact that The Nameless come from that planet (a la ALIEN), and their progenitors are terrifying leviathans (comparable to Lovecraft's Eldritch Horrors), make them a very singular threat in the galaxy, and to Force-users. The ritualistic relics related to their existence and powers, are a very interesting, intriguing aspect of The SWU; further adding to the already established lore surrounding old Macguffins, like Sith and Jedi Holocrons, Kyber crystals, sacred texts, ancient weapons, and forbidden locales, etc. What's truly unique about this initiative: THE SITH, so far, don't seem to be a thing in this conflict. Truth be told: The Sith that are in existence at this time (whomever they are, which would be really cool to know, in the grand scheme of things), are probably running scared as much as any other Force-user in the galaxy, since both The Drengir and The Nameless don't discern between the two potential targets. Some of the characters I've encountered in my reading and viewing (Young Jedi Adventures and JEDI: Survivor…NOT, The Acolyte) have become among a growing list of favorite characters.
THE WOKENESS is THE PROBLEM. Filtering it in to the main storytelling of the epic, like an algorithm, adversely affects the overall result. Thankfully, the story (and its phalanx of related and divergent stories) itself is powerful and deep enough (most of the time), to weather that very problematic storm. Regarding, The Acolyte, you have to keep something in mind: The Showrunner/Main Creator of the miniseries, Leslye Headland, wasn't really a part of the conception of the multimedia project…she was brought in to put her own stamp on Star Wars, and chose (or, at the same time was tasked) to depict a story taking place a distance of time away from, The Phantom Menace. She and her story represent the worst aspects of the publishing side of the initiative, making it clear that she was picked to tell her story, since it ran in line with The Wokesters' material. However, at the same time, I'd be surprised, if Headland had really read all of the material depicting Vernestra Rwoh; since her depiction of the character seems rather distanced from that of the books and comics showing her as an adolescent. Yet, it seems the authors of the books were trying to one-up Anakin Skywalker, by giving fans a Jedi Prodigy, who attained Jedi Knight status by the age of 16; along w/ the go-ahead to create a very unique, dangerous lightsaber. Maybe they intended for Vern to become a major character and face for The High Republic Era, in all forms of media, inc. live-action. Well, it's either failed or been severely hobbled, in the wake of, The Acolyte. Yes, Headland (and her group of semi-inexperienced writers) committed MAJOR crimes, by altering Lucas' timeline, and the characters of Ki-Adi Mundi and Master Yoda; along with perversely telling a story about a vergence making it possible for an unknown coven of space witches to create a kind of set of Chosen Ones. Clearly, that was an intentional creative desecration of George Lucas' original lore, and the justification for the existence of Anakin Skywalker.
Another difficulty that has arisen with this initiative, seems to be the compartmentalization of its storytelling: It seems, the book writers and comic book authors don't have that much interaction and influence with the live-action creators, or the video game ones either. One wonders if the handful of characters introduced in the JEDI: Survivor game will make appearances in the publishing material. Plus, will the upcoming, Star Wars: Eclipse open world video game have much connection to the stories that have been told, over the last 3-and-a-half years. When does that particular story take place, within that 400-year-plus-long time frame? I'm not entirely sure if all involved intended to make all of this mesh together, because they weren't all in contact/agreement with each other.
P.S. I think you're misinterpreting that vision board/Wish List. It was only meant to apply to the brainstorming sessions for The High Republic Multimedia Initiative, during the Project Luminous Writers Summit, in 2018. Virtually none of these writers were involved with the telling of The ST, or The Mandoverse, or Andor, for that matter.
Trash… should have written in expensive boxed whine and safe space spa days to bloat the budgets. Oh have things makes zero sense
Where is struggle of good vs. evil?
Complicated monsters:
I think they were referring to the monsters people can become
Kennedy and her activists have been going full anti-Lucas on the Star Wars franchise since they took over .
On top of that, they intended to replace the original, REAL, PROFITABLE, Star Wars fans with a new 'modern audience'.
Unfortunately for them, when The Acolyte, which represented Kathleen Kennedy's ultimate vision for the Star Wars franchise, and which she spent the last decade, deliberately and systematically destroying George Lucas's legacy for, the 'modern audience' the activists were counting on, just couldn't make it.
I like the note of having an “actual ending” when if I recall correctly none of the Disney Star Wars shows or movies have a definitive end. Every show ends on a cliff hanger and the movies that don’t have these open ended endings that heavily imply a sequel every time.
It felt like when they wrote Darth Vader, Luke’s and Leia’s backstory…. They were writing it as the movie was going on….
In reference to 11:10, black guy here that saw SW original trilogy on their opening nights. I don't recall any of us thinking we could be any of the characters until Lando was introduced. We did relate to the message of revolution. Luke, Han, & Leia where viewed much like Superman. White people that were allowed to do cool things. Sounds racist, yes, But considering Lando being submissive to a more powerful entitles and being supportive of other peoples goals, we could not only relate to Lando, we identified with him and his decisions. And yes, at 8 we understood this because we discussed these things with our parents after school.
They could have done the Old Republic leading up to the rule of two.
To this day I don't understand why they deleted all of the EU. All they had to do is pick the best stories and made movie/show adaptations of these stories and they still could've kept all of the EU canon. More than half the work is done at that point all you needed is good directors and actors for the adaptations and everyone would be happy. It's just hilarious how that decision comes back to bite them in the ass constantly because their stuff just sucks compared to the EU.
Like it's so dumb that they put diversity twice or even once, like that's a no-brainer.It's Star Wars.Of course it's going to be diverse have they ever watched a movie in their life
TLDR – they failed on each point from that list.
I. FICTION:
1. Authentically lived in – FAILED ❌ – that was already in Star Wars since the beginning – it's called "used future".
2. Surprise – FAILED ❌- The indeed surprised us with only crap since Diznuts bought the franchise.
3.Diversity – FAILED ❌- There was always diversity in Star Wars.
4. Actual ending – FAILED ❌- They couldn't write a proper ending to any series or movies they made.
5. Feelings – FAILED ❌- They focused on modernity terms.
6. Relatable characters – FAILED ❌- They lost the plot on what relatable means and focused on creating characters so certain demographics can relate to which is plain stupid.
7. Sweeping/epic – FAILED ❌- Nothing they made was even remote to being epic.
8. Humor – FAILED ❌- They can't write humor even if it's handed to them.
II. STAR WARS:
1. Not pro-war – FAILED -❌- Star Wars was always about wars. It's in its fucking name – WARS!
2. Droids – FAILED- ❌- There were always droids in Star Wars.
3. Scope – FAILED – ❌- There was scope in Star Wars. It was called The Expanded Universe. They canceled it.
4. Mythic – FAILED – ❌- They already had that in the cancelled Expanded Universe.
5. Space and Lightsaber battles – FAILED/ Almost success – The only good space battle they had was in Rogue One. All of the lightsaber ones were huge fails.
6. No single (main) character – FAILED – ❌- They can't write any type of characters nor main or secondary.
7. The Force – HUGE FAIL ❌- George destroyed the mysticism of the Force when it reveled it as being made outta micro organisms – midiclorians and Diznuts made it as anyone can use the Force,
8. Complicated monsters – FAILED- ❌- Anything they created on that aspect was nothing but mediocre nor complex.
III. STAR WARS WISHES:
1. High Republic – FAILED – ❌- the most boring and useless era in the franchise, no wonder it get cancelled.
2. Relic Hunters – FAILED – ❌- They had that in the cancelled E.U. – jedi/sith holocrons.
3. University – FAILED – ❌- They already have the Jedi Academy and the Sith Academy.
4. Dinosaurs – whatever.
5. Representation/diversity – ❌- read I. Fiction (3,6).
6. Arthurian legends -❌- They had a lot of those in the cancelled EU instead they wrote lame ass CW worthy fan fiction.
7. Rival Houses – ❌- they had those types in the cancelled EU.
8. Sith Empire – ❌- They only wrote a few lame ass Sith characters. They had a sith Empire in the cancelled EU.
9. Chaos agents – ❌- Read II. STAR WARS (6).
10. Splinter groups force-users – ❌- a splinter group is a political group.
The gender complement of the 'story group' also shows their mindset.
You could have interesting stories in the High Republic era. Just not how they have done.
How about the backstory behind the Mother, Father, Brother and sister. Backstory behind the witches. Plagues’ build up to Phantom Menace could be cool
Also this was just Is a board for the high republic btw
I also disagree with you on Andor. That was a well written series that was able to stand in its own with limited help from established characters etc. well reasoned characters and character arcs, logical plot progression and motivations. Excellent world building and cinematography.
I might be wrong but the Star Wars column with the heart, is that supposed to be what they love about Star Wars and then the wishes column is what they want to see more of? Either way they failed this franchise in spectacular fashion and it'll take a miracle of galactic proportions to bring it back.
Yo at least put:
Father/Son dynamic
Darkness Vs Light
Sacrifice
It’s not complicated monsters it’s monsters that are complicated to kill 😂 idk why it’s so hard to lock in on this ip
And that's why the High Republic has a 90% loss in sales in North America alone, while legends keep selling like crazy.
To me that list reveals that the room was filled with several idiots – not master of the obvious – "Dinosaurs" is what a neophyte would use to describe "strange and giant creatures". "Chaos Agents" sounds like someone was trying to come up with a generic term for events and people who introduce chaos into the plot, like crime gangs, political leaders etc – again, just like "actual ending", this is just a function of something called plot. This entire list smells like diversity hires.
They ruined High Republic by making lots of educational childrens books, even similar to those some churches produce.
There would be plenty of stuff going on, just no major wars, uprising or rebellions.
The usual crime, smuggle, personal drama, planetary secession, corruption, political backstabbing, drugs, independent force user-sects, exploration of the galaxy, etc. could have happened.
Star Wars
– Not pro-war
The fell at the first hurdle, it's in the name.
"The Writer's Group" as a whole was ridiculous from the start. It was Star Wars by committee – a committee built along Stalinist lines. And as such, it was staffed not by artists, but by political hacks.
This is what happens when you try to manufacture art. It takes the soul right out of it. Also, one thing you don't see on the list is: what fans want. If this were all about 'capitalism' than the customer would come first. But no, it's about 'religious' zealotry.
No such thing as “High Republic”. There’s Old Republic, Empire, & New Republic.
The issue is that they hired people to write star wars who don't care about the lore. That's it. Fire these people and hire people who respect the lore.
My favorite was "Feelings".. Yes, movies/books/shows should probably have some "feelings" in them..
They treated this as if Star Wars was their fanfiction world and I will never respect any of them for it.
At least they nailed the dinosaurs.
Star wars ❤
NoT pRo WaR
What's next? Not pro stars?
Looks at Skeleton Crew* ohh no
The truth is: SOME of The High Republic Multimedia Initiative is good-to-excellent. However, due to SOME of the writers ("Dinosaurs!") in that enterprise bringing in extraneous, esoteric, decidedly earthly fringe sociopolitical ideas ("If you don't share my political beliefs…don't read my books!") and concepts in to its nucleus and execution, there are parts of it that just bring its overall quality down. Also, some of those same writers also possessed and expressed rather unsavory, combative dispositions on social media platforms, directing it at SW Fans.
However, as someone who has read about 67% of all of its 3 Phases, I can confidently say that The High Republic is a powerful, relevant block of epic SW storytelling within the overall SWU. Funny: I've read 2 books and a comics series depicting Yoda in its action, and he seems very much authentic and aligned with Lucas' portrayal of him in The OT, The PT, and TCW. Which stories in this series have you read, to make you draw your conclusion? Yaddle gets some serious love and agency, as well. Overall, The Jedi (and Force-users, in general) are really cool, during this Golden Age in the galaxy. This story is unique, because it takes place during a period of relative felicity in the known galaxy…however, a sin was apparently committed (centuries earlier), involving both The Republic and The Jedi Order, and Marchion Ro and his Nihil are the ones that have come to prosecute and punish them for their deeds. The concept of a rather lethal, hidden planet (similar to Tanalorr, in JEDI: Survivor, which also has direct connections to The High Republic Era) that is, "ruled by The Force" (both The Light & The Dark), is fascinating, and truly original. The fact that The Nameless come from that planet (a la ALIEN), and their progenitors are terrifying leviathans (comparable to Lovecraft's Eldritch Horrors), make them a very singular threat in the galaxy, and to Force-users. The ritualistic relics related to their existence and powers, are a very interesting, intriguing aspect of The SWU; further adding to the already established lore surrounding old Macguffins, like Sith and Jedi Holocrons, Kyber crystals, sacred texts, ancient weapons, and forbidden locales, etc. What's truly unique about this initiative: THE SITH, so far, don't seem to be a thing in this conflict. Truth be told: The Sith that are in existence at this time (whomever they are, which would be really cool to know, in the grand scheme of things), are probably running scared as much as any other Force-user in the galaxy, since both The Drengir and The Nameless don't discern between the two potential targets. Some of the characters I've encountered in my reading and viewing (Young Jedi Adventures and JEDI: Survivor…NOT, The Acolyte) have become among a growing list of favorite characters.
THE WOKENESS is THE PROBLEM. Filtering it in to the main storytelling of the epic, like an algorithm, adversely affects the overall result. Thankfully, the story (and its phalanx of related and divergent stories) itself is powerful and deep enough (most of the time), to weather that very problematic storm. Regarding, The Acolyte, you have to keep something in mind: The Showrunner/Main Creator of the miniseries, Leslye Headland, wasn't really a part of the conception of the multimedia project…she was brought in to put her own stamp on Star Wars, and chose (or, at the same time was tasked) to depict a story taking place a distance of time away from, The Phantom Menace. She and her story represent the worst aspects of the publishing side of the initiative, making it clear that she was picked to tell her story, since it ran in line with The Wokesters' material. However, at the same time, I'd be surprised, if Headland had really read all of the material depicting Vernestra Rwoh; since her depiction of the character seems rather distanced from that of the books and comics showing her as an adolescent. Yet, it seems the authors of the books were trying to one-up Anakin Skywalker, by giving fans a Jedi Prodigy, who attained Jedi Knight status by the age of 16; along w/ the go-ahead to create a very unique, dangerous lightsaber. Maybe they intended for Vern to become a major character and face for The High Republic Era, in all forms of media, inc. live-action. Well, it's either failed or been severely hobbled, in the wake of, The Acolyte. Yes, Headland (and her group of semi-inexperienced writers) committed MAJOR crimes, by altering Lucas' timeline, and the characters of Ki-Adi Mundi and Master Yoda; along with perversely telling a story about a vergence making it possible for an unknown coven of space witches to create a kind of set of Chosen Ones. Clearly, that was an intentional creative desecration of George Lucas' original lore, and the justification for the existence of Anakin Skywalker.
Another difficulty that has arisen with this initiative, seems to be the compartmentalization of its storytelling: It seems, the book writers and comic book authors don't have that much interaction and influence with the live-action creators, or the video game ones either. One wonders if the handful of characters introduced in the JEDI: Survivor game will make appearances in the publishing material. Plus, will the upcoming, Star Wars: Eclipse open world video game have much connection to the stories that have been told, over the last 3-and-a-half years. When does that particular story take place, within that 400-year-plus-long time frame? I'm not entirely sure if all involved intended to make all of this mesh together, because they weren't all in contact/agreement with each other.
P.S. I think you're misinterpreting that vision board/Wish List. It was only meant to apply to the brainstorming sessions for The High Republic Multimedia Initiative, during the Project Luminous Writers Summit, in 2018. Virtually none of these writers were involved with the telling of The ST, or The Mandoverse, or Andor, for that matter.
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