Hey everyone, **please read this before commenting.** What I'm stating in this video is not my personal opinion, it's simply something I gathered from the series and thought would be interesting to discussion. Obviously, I don't believe humanity is entirely awful and should end. But, I wasn't clear in both my analysis and presentation, and the fault lies on me for rushing out a video on such a serious topic, and not gathering everything I should have from the series to begin with. I'll be sure to do better on this in the future. If it wasn't for algorithm concerns, I'd have already taken this video down. Thanks for your time, and I'll be better with this in the future.
If i could dislike this video i would cause i felt like you missed the entire point if the anime. Things are nihilistic but it's presents hope in humanity that they can do good even if life seems bleak. Furthermore your wrong on the ending. God trapped the world into a time loop. This is just one cycle among many.
Oh there is no doubt about it. Devil man Crybaby is a absolute mess! The pacing is clunky, stuff happens for absolutely no reason and out of nowhere, and it is unbelievably bleak and nihilistic. This and Happy sugar Life are two of the most bleak, humanity equals 💩, anime out there. Yet it’s also one of the few anime that doesn’t try and claim that humanity should be saved despite being so terrible and for that I can begrudgingly respect it. It does make me wonder think that hero’s always try and save humanity, but never provide a good reason why they deserve to be saved. Humanity is hopelessly flayed, endlessly greedy, completely delusional, and paradoxical in there hypocrisy. They committed the worst acts imaginable, revel in there own madness, and debauchery, let themselves be controlled by there worst possible impulses, creating things that only serve there own interests or just cause destruction outright. Yet have the absolute Gaul, to act like they are complete pure saints, when everything they do would cause a devil to give pause. So what is it? What is the one things humans have that make them deserving to exist? Why do they deserve to exist on this planet and do they contribute anything beneficial to the world? I’m not sure on the answer…
The click bait is forgiven. I didnt think this would be a Crybaby video until i started watching it but you did help consolidate the feelings i had for this anime. Im the same as you, i fucking hated this show until the last quartet of episodes. The pacing is awful, the violence and sex are so abundant and gratuitous i wonder how ANYBODY can watch this and saw they enjoy it, and its ending is big doomer. Im staring to understand that grimdark pieces of media like this are not my cup of tea. I wondered what the animators and directors thought in their hearts for things like the ending of ep. 9 for example. I… dont think we should shy away from the absolute bottoms of humanity, like youve said. We need to see how evil we can be before we can even START to understand what it means to do good, we need to know that. But fuck this was so hard to watch
One of my favorite scenes is the last bit while Akira is fighting Lucifer, and even then, hes trying to pass the baton. I think, that that may be the best message the show is trying to present. The little sprinkle of hope and humanity (despite it being expelled) really is what made me think about this anime well after i finished it. I personally feel humanity is inherently good, so watching this had big question marks over my head. But I do, or rather we do as people, need to understand the importance of series like this. Because this is also a "potential of humanity."
Also very ironic that I just want to watch the final baton scene on youtube but the only thing I get instead is the OST song or the ending of ep. 9 where Miki's death happens. So i have to rely on having Netflix to experience that scene again. Humanity
I’ve been binging a lot of your content lately and I love seeing your courage to share yourself with the world. From different outfits, to opinions and personal experiences I’m amazed and only wish the best for you ❤
To me, humanity being the architect of their own destruction is something inevitable, some say in the name of "advancement" some say out of spite, but we inevitably marched to our own ends through the choices we made for good for or ill. The choices in this anime in indeed for ill and very shortshighted in nature. So the question is not "should we deserve to die?" but "how should we die?" At least to me
I would like to present you a quote from Men In Black movie by agent K : "A person is smart, people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it"
This quote alone cements my disdain towards people as a collective because i have seen, and experienced it for myself that people as a collective can be stupid beyond measure in the name of pride and "materialistic survivor" and the current state of affairs are not helping either, as long as we are alive "physically" you will twist anything else for the worse.
I am really relieved to hear your perspective of Devil Man Cry Baby. I also hated it, but understand and appreciate what it wanted to do. I will say, that I take great issue with stories like this, because they constantly seem to make superficial judgements on human actions while then equating it with the worst of humanity. I think the story works better if one only watched the climatic ending, and nothing else.
Devilman crybaby is an allegory like hamlet, it’s a warning but it’s the sad reality that satan want this but through Jesus Christ all are possible if your not Christian I don’t blame you I saw the tragedy anime too
Short answer, no. Long answer, we have too much potential to start thinking that way. Nihilism is nothing more than some mind virus that gives people an excuse to be pathetic.
people love and hate equally; they create and they destroy… the truth is that we are how we have to be. nature must have had something in mind that we are the way we are. whether we exist or not is of no interest to anyone in the universe. of course it is legitimate to say that humanity deserves to be exterminated. but extermination will come without any action on our part. so why not live and enjoy this polarity in our being?
Humans should do better, humans should be better but they're not and that's their choice. It's not the fault of some God who insist on letting imperfect creations continue to be imperfect then blaming them for the misery he's actually responsible for. It's not the fault of some outside interferer that goes by the name Satan or Lucifer or Saturn or El or Yaldabaoth. The evil in humanity is not some devil corrupting the whole world or some complacent careless God just letting evil persist because it's apart of his plan. There is no God. There is potential in humanity that has always been there, we have often acknowledged it but we never truly cultivated it or nourished the potential within our race. Complacency and evil are far more potent attributes that shine in humanity, those two shine brighter than our collective potential. We may be a race that can do some good, but consistently humanity chooses to allow great evil or do nothing about the great evil.
Children are currently sex trafficked. Entire cities of civilians are drone striked by American terrorism. Central American countries are ran by puppet leaders that are installed by the CIA to promote American democracy in other nations that aren't America. Child labor laws are terrible in a lot of countries around the world. Starvation is a real problem still in 2023 and yet every year people in developed nations can sit on holidays and eat feast of turkey and ham and Mac and cheese, while around the world people live in utterly unlivable conditions dying of starvation. Or maybe it's the poverty in the developed nations like America and India that just goes unaddressed. Stuff like the caste system in India being around still today where people are considered unclean based off of literally imaginary rules. Or maybe it's the corporations that help pollute the world and destroy the planet that never seem to face any legal consequences from governments. Maybe it's the FDA being allowed to let millions of people eat cancerous unsafe food that slowly kills people, so the pharmaceutical industry can then profit too.
With all the evil that is going on in the world you can't point at human problems that are caused by humans and say "it's Satan's fault." There is no God, so why blame a made up evil when the made up God doesn't exist. Humans are their own problem. You all know it to be the truth. From a macro level to a microscopic level humans are ruining their own world. We march and run towards self imposed annihilation, but yet we still have videos and Twitter post wondering "what's the real problem?" It's obvious. Humans truly are self destructive, their capacity for progress is dwarfed by their capacity for self imposed annihilation. Maybe if there was an overseer or some objective meaning to the reality we live in we would be a more stable bunch. But regardless of our lack of meaning, WE SHOULDN'T BE THIS HORRIBLE, LIFE SHOULDN'T BE THIS HORRIBLE. If we all perish, if it really does end and it's our fault then I guess we fucking deserved it.
No one even ask to be born but once they are it's too late. You then have to navigate this insane asylum called life. No god, no true objective meaning, no understanding of what happens beyond the grave. Just a shitty matrix of circumstances with no real reason, no true explanation for any of this.
Very interesting topic. I do agree that there's something awful to finding pleasure in the pain of others. However, I must admit to having found pleasure in those who've hurt me in my life suffering. I am an aggressive and angry person and, as such, I tend to think that such emotions are important to being a full human. To cut them off or to focus them purely into creating isn't healthy in my mind. Personally I think people have become too sheltered in modern times. Not all, of course. I am aware of those who aren't and go out and live. But I have definitely met my share of people online who have such poor social armour that they get upset over things like laughing because they committed a mistake. Something which is relatable and which I laugh about out of comradery rather than in an attempt to make them feel bad. Or when I laugh at a person who doesn't stop to consider that they're pushing me around, making me feel backed into a corner. It's as though there's a kind version of fascism out there, one in which people don't utilise violence but rather act nice and only nice, attempting to play one people's sense of shame. It's as though they have this drive to make everyone behave just like them rather than understand and accept others as who they are.
I admit that I also used to be such a person, used to try and be so kind with the hope that it would convince others to do the same… But I also would often "come undone" and snap and rage at people. Because, as it turned out, I wasn't that kind, I am not that kind and so attempting to live that way ends up making me want to die. I only hope that us humans stop trying to make everyone conform and obey, learning to accept people as who they are. Social armour is such an important thing to learn so we don't end up becoming fascistic in a whole new way. One which eradicates and erases any and all conflict. Trapping one's mind in a cage is so incredibly damaging if you ask me. We really need to do away with bs systems like seclusion rooms once and for all already. It really infuriates me that we even still have such barbaric things still in use.
Thank you so much for talking about this and phrasing it so eloquently and consciously. This idea/question has stuck with me ever since I first watched the show. To the point I've even had a hard time mentioning it to other people, because I feel like it asks some very existential questions that I don't think any of us have the answer to yet. An amazing show that is unafraid to challenge the audience to think. Love your work can't wait to see what you make next!
Weird to admit but its something I've thought about. I know its wrong and its not like I do anything with it but that thought of humanity dying would be better. Again I know this isnt even correct but telling all the counter arguments just doesnt change how I feel. It's not like its something I go around expressing or advocating either, but I wish didnt have to live with this as something my "heart" believes
clickbait will make me leave a insulting comment, than never ever watch any video of this channel. Giving in in such methods brings u one step closer to be, being a bad person. grettings
Netflix's retake of Devilman Crybaby really got to me. The death of Miki Makimura made me so angry I punched the couch I sat watching it. Thankfully, I experienced joy watching Akira Fudo/Devilman punish the real demons who took Miki and the rest of their friends who were also murdered as their only punishment.
10:21 "Presenting us with an extended scene of anguish. This made his boring nature for so long, worthwhile" I get that this isn't your personal opinion, that this is just your analysis of what the show is saying.
In response to this, what the show is saying, the only thing I instinctively, immediately felt was disgust that the only thing "worthwhile" about a boring good person is when something tragic happens to them.
That is disgustingly indulgence drama. As if a person can't be worthwhile if they are just a good person, only when something "interesting" (i.e. bad happens) happens to them, like they're supposed to be punished for trying to live a good moral person.
As a childhood abuse survivor, I can say with certainty that humans get off on powertripping over those who are helpless or unable to stand up against them. It's a very animalistic thing, and humans haven't yet gotten beyond a lot of those instincts.
I don't overly care for dark media, because due to my experiences I can often get (yes that word that everyone now hates but was originally used for those of us with PTSD) triggered That being said, I'm glad that certain types of dark media exist because most people really need to be pushed into thinking about these things so that a conscious effort can be made to do something about it, or at the very least people without those experiences can be made aware of it as an overarching issue.
Apocalypse Now is still one of my favorite movies of all times because, despite the fact that certain parts are difficult to watch, it does a great job at pointing out exactly what it is that is ugly about humanity. All that being said though, I tend to stick to more light-hearted escapism type of media as well as comedy. I'm raw daddy, lol (and I already think about this shit way too much anyways)
Hey everyone, **please read this before commenting.** What I'm stating in this video is not my personal opinion, it's simply something I gathered from the series and thought would be interesting to discussion. Obviously, I don't believe humanity is entirely awful and should end. But, I wasn't clear in both my analysis and presentation, and the fault lies on me for rushing out a video on such a serious topic, and not gathering everything I should have from the series to begin with. I'll be sure to do better on this in the future. If it wasn't for algorithm concerns, I'd have already taken this video down. Thanks for your time, and I'll be better with this in the future.
If i could dislike this video i would cause i felt like you missed the entire point if the anime. Things are nihilistic but it's presents hope in humanity that they can do good even if life seems bleak. Furthermore your wrong on the ending. God trapped the world into a time loop. This is just one cycle among many.
I truly love your channel and your thoughts. Fan for life.
Yes
Oh there is no doubt about it. Devil man Crybaby is a absolute mess!
The pacing is clunky, stuff happens for absolutely no reason and out of nowhere, and it is unbelievably bleak and nihilistic. This and Happy sugar Life are two of the most bleak, humanity equals 💩, anime out there.
Yet it’s also one of the few anime that doesn’t try and claim that humanity should be saved despite being so terrible and for that I can begrudgingly respect it.
It does make me wonder think that hero’s always try and save humanity, but never provide a good reason why they deserve to be saved. Humanity is hopelessly flayed, endlessly greedy, completely delusional, and paradoxical in there hypocrisy. They committed the worst acts imaginable, revel in there own madness, and debauchery, let themselves be controlled by there worst possible impulses, creating things that only serve there own interests or just cause destruction outright. Yet have the absolute Gaul, to act like they are complete pure saints, when everything they do would cause a devil to give pause.
So what is it? What is the one things humans have that make them deserving to exist? Why do they deserve to exist on this planet and do they contribute anything beneficial to the world?
I’m not sure on the answer…
The click bait is forgiven. I didnt think this would be a Crybaby video until i started watching it but you did help consolidate the feelings i had for this anime. Im the same as you, i fucking hated this show until the last quartet of episodes. The pacing is awful, the violence and sex are so abundant and gratuitous i wonder how ANYBODY can watch this and saw they enjoy it, and its ending is big doomer. Im staring to understand that grimdark pieces of media like this are not my cup of tea. I wondered what the animators and directors thought in their hearts for things like the ending of ep. 9 for example. I… dont think we should shy away from the absolute bottoms of humanity, like youve said. We need to see how evil we can be before we can even START to understand what it means to do good, we need to know that. But fuck this was so hard to watch
One of my favorite scenes is the last bit while Akira is fighting Lucifer, and even then, hes trying to pass the baton. I think, that that may be the best message the show is trying to present. The little sprinkle of hope and humanity (despite it being expelled) really is what made me think about this anime well after i finished it. I personally feel humanity is inherently good, so watching this had big question marks over my head. But I do, or rather we do as people, need to understand the importance of series like this. Because this is also a "potential of humanity."
Also very ironic that I just want to watch the final baton scene on youtube but the only thing I get instead is the OST song or the ending of ep. 9 where Miki's death happens. So i have to rely on having Netflix to experience that scene again. Humanity
Pp
And a serious thats about the potential of Mankind that's going to have its third season in April is dr. Stone
What anime is this?
Interesting
I’ve been binging a lot of your content lately and I love seeing your courage to share yourself with the world. From different outfits, to opinions and personal experiences I’m amazed and only wish the best for you ❤
Yes I believe humanity should die
Hey bud you should go watch Bocchi the Rock! and maybe it'll cheer you up.
To me, humanity being the architect of their own destruction is something inevitable, some say in the name of "advancement" some say out of spite, but we inevitably marched to our own ends through the choices we made for good for or ill. The choices in this anime in indeed for ill and very shortshighted in nature. So the question is not "should we deserve to die?" but "how should we die?" At least to me
I would like to present you a quote from Men In Black movie by agent K :
"A person is smart, people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it"
This quote alone cements my disdain towards people as a collective because i have seen, and experienced it for myself that people as a collective can be stupid beyond measure in the name of pride and "materialistic survivor" and the current state of affairs are not helping either, as long as we are alive "physically" you will twist anything else for the worse.
I am really relieved to hear your perspective of Devil Man Cry Baby. I also hated it, but understand and appreciate what it wanted to do. I will say, that I take great issue with stories like this, because they constantly seem to make superficial judgements on human actions while then equating it with the worst of humanity. I think the story works better if one only watched the climatic ending, and nothing else.
Devilman crybaby is an allegory like hamlet, it’s a warning but it’s the sad reality that satan want this but through Jesus Christ all are possible if your not Christian I don’t blame you I saw the tragedy anime too
Short answer, no. Long answer, we have too much potential to start thinking that way. Nihilism is nothing more than some mind virus that gives people an excuse to be pathetic.
people love and hate equally; they create and they destroy… the truth is that we are how we have to be. nature must have had something in mind that we are the way we are. whether we exist or not is of no interest to anyone in the universe. of course it is legitimate to say that humanity deserves to be exterminated. but extermination will come without any action on our part. so why not live and enjoy this polarity in our being?
Humans should do better, humans should be better but they're not and that's their choice. It's not the fault of some God who insist on letting imperfect creations continue to be imperfect then blaming them for the misery he's actually responsible for. It's not the fault of some outside interferer that goes by the name Satan or Lucifer or Saturn or El or Yaldabaoth. The evil in humanity is not some devil corrupting the whole world or some complacent careless God just letting evil persist because it's apart of his plan. There is no God. There is potential in humanity that has always been there, we have often acknowledged it but we never truly cultivated it or nourished the potential within our race. Complacency and evil are far more potent attributes that shine in humanity, those two shine brighter than our collective potential. We may be a race that can do some good, but consistently humanity chooses to allow great evil or do nothing about the great evil.
Children are currently sex trafficked. Entire cities of civilians are drone striked by American terrorism. Central American countries are ran by puppet leaders that are installed by the CIA to promote American democracy in other nations that aren't America. Child labor laws are terrible in a lot of countries around the world. Starvation is a real problem still in 2023 and yet every year people in developed nations can sit on holidays and eat feast of turkey and ham and Mac and cheese, while around the world people live in utterly unlivable conditions dying of starvation. Or maybe it's the poverty in the developed nations like America and India that just goes unaddressed. Stuff like the caste system in India being around still today where people are considered unclean based off of literally imaginary rules. Or maybe it's the corporations that help pollute the world and destroy the planet that never seem to face any legal consequences from governments. Maybe it's the FDA being allowed to let millions of people eat cancerous unsafe food that slowly kills people, so the pharmaceutical industry can then profit too.
With all the evil that is going on in the world you can't point at human problems that are caused by humans and say "it's Satan's fault." There is no God, so why blame a made up evil when the made up God doesn't exist. Humans are their own problem. You all know it to be the truth. From a macro level to a microscopic level humans are ruining their own world. We march and run towards self imposed annihilation, but yet we still have videos and Twitter post wondering "what's the real problem?" It's obvious. Humans truly are self destructive, their capacity for progress is dwarfed by their capacity for self imposed annihilation. Maybe if there was an overseer or some objective meaning to the reality we live in we would be a more stable bunch. But regardless of our lack of meaning, WE SHOULDN'T BE THIS HORRIBLE, LIFE SHOULDN'T BE THIS HORRIBLE. If we all perish, if it really does end and it's our fault then I guess we fucking deserved it.
No one even ask to be born but once they are it's too late. You then have to navigate this insane asylum called life. No god, no true objective meaning, no understanding of what happens beyond the grave. Just a shitty matrix of circumstances with no real reason, no true explanation for any of this.
Very interesting topic. I do agree that there's something awful to finding pleasure in the pain of others. However, I must admit to having found pleasure in those who've hurt me in my life suffering. I am an aggressive and angry person and, as such, I tend to think that such emotions are important to being a full human. To cut them off or to focus them purely into creating isn't healthy in my mind. Personally I think people have become too sheltered in modern times. Not all, of course. I am aware of those who aren't and go out and live. But I have definitely met my share of people online who have such poor social armour that they get upset over things like laughing because they committed a mistake. Something which is relatable and which I laugh about out of comradery rather than in an attempt to make them feel bad. Or when I laugh at a person who doesn't stop to consider that they're pushing me around, making me feel backed into a corner. It's as though there's a kind version of fascism out there, one in which people don't utilise violence but rather act nice and only nice, attempting to play one people's sense of shame. It's as though they have this drive to make everyone behave just like them rather than understand and accept others as who they are.
I admit that I also used to be such a person, used to try and be so kind with the hope that it would convince others to do the same… But I also would often "come undone" and snap and rage at people. Because, as it turned out, I wasn't that kind, I am not that kind and so attempting to live that way ends up making me want to die. I only hope that us humans stop trying to make everyone conform and obey, learning to accept people as who they are. Social armour is such an important thing to learn so we don't end up becoming fascistic in a whole new way. One which eradicates and erases any and all conflict. Trapping one's mind in a cage is so incredibly damaging if you ask me. We really need to do away with bs systems like seclusion rooms once and for all already. It really infuriates me that we even still have such barbaric things still in use.
Thank you so much for talking about this and phrasing it so eloquently and consciously. This idea/question has stuck with me ever since I first watched the show. To the point I've even had a hard time mentioning it to other people, because I feel like it asks some very existential questions that I don't think any of us have the answer to yet. An amazing show that is unafraid to challenge the audience to think. Love your work can't wait to see what you make next!
Yes
Weird to admit but its something I've thought about. I know its wrong and its not like I do anything with it but that thought of humanity dying would be better. Again I know this isnt even correct but telling all the counter arguments just doesnt change how I feel. It's not like its something I go around expressing or advocating either, but I wish didnt have to live with this as something my "heart" believes
Humanity is like a cancer on the earth so it would have been best if humans never existed, better never to have been as Dave Benetar said.
Yes we should
Nope Lucifer is not satan Yahove is read the complete Bible include the missing books again👽👻
I think the question should be, why should humanity continue to exist? I cannot think of a good reason.
clickbait will make me leave a insulting comment, than never ever watch any video of this channel. Giving in in such methods brings u one step closer to be, being a bad person. grettings
Yes.
Yes.
Netflix's retake of Devilman Crybaby really got to me. The death of Miki Makimura made me so angry I punched the couch I sat watching it. Thankfully, I experienced joy watching Akira Fudo/Devilman punish the real demons who took Miki and the rest of their friends who were also murdered as their only punishment.
Only the majority. The selected ones will live.
10:21 "Presenting us with an extended scene of anguish. This made his boring nature for so long, worthwhile" I get that this isn't your personal opinion, that this is just your analysis of what the show is saying.
In response to this, what the show is saying, the only thing I instinctively, immediately felt was disgust that the only thing "worthwhile" about a boring good person is when something tragic happens to them.
That is disgustingly indulgence drama. As if a person can't be worthwhile if they are just a good person, only when something "interesting" (i.e. bad happens) happens to them, like they're supposed to be punished for trying to live a good moral person.
As a childhood abuse survivor, I can say with certainty that humans get off on powertripping over those who are helpless or unable to stand up against them. It's a very animalistic thing, and humans haven't yet gotten beyond a lot of those instincts.
I don't overly care for dark media, because due to my experiences I can often get (yes that word that everyone now hates but was originally used for those of us with PTSD) triggered
That being said, I'm glad that certain types of dark media exist because most people really need to be pushed into thinking about these things so that a conscious effort can be made to do something about it, or at the very least people without those experiences can be made aware of it as an overarching issue.
Apocalypse Now is still one of my favorite movies of all times because, despite the fact that certain parts are difficult to watch, it does a great job at pointing out exactly what it is that is ugly about humanity. All that being said though, I tend to stick to more light-hearted escapism type of media as well as comedy. I'm raw daddy, lol (and I already think about this shit way too much anyways)
Nah
I Hate Humans, All you Guys Do Is Kill Each Other And Destroy The Earth.