Secret Lair Heads, I Win, Tails, You Lose Commander Deck Arrives One Year Later – Is This Okay?



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35 thoughts on “Secret Lair Heads, I Win, Tails, You Lose Commander Deck Arrives One Year Later – Is This Okay?”

  1. 9:30
    You are Wizards of the Coast and you are owned by hasbro.
    Yes you can. Most certainly you can. Art comissions aren't that expensive in a macroscopic context of what goes into these products. I'd actually say it's one of the smaller expenses, because it's one and done. What this boils down to is, again, wizards being like "yeah, good enough, people will shill out for it" and calling it a day because they know they can get away with it.
    This isn't a small indie company. Stop making excuses for them on behalf of how expensive things are, they literally have _All_ of the money.

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  2. I like this format. Sleeving cards and chill.

    Supply chain constraints or not, these are cardboard cards we are talking about. I haven't heard other game companies, even much smaller ones, having issues of this scale. It's not the end of the world, it's just very weird.

    I remember when they sold Pro Tour winning decks with gold borders. Was a nice way for beginners to see how good players build their decks. And an affordable way for school kids to obtain some of the rarer cards. My friend group didn't care about whether they were tournament legal. Unless i annoyed them too much with the Goblin Sharpshooters 😀

    With some of the newer Secret Lairs you can pay more to get everything foil. Although those aren't full decks. I do like that approach, though, because personally i never want foil. Makes it hard to read, especially when sleeved.

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  3. There is a huge problem that made me stop playing magic. The flooded market made it impossible to maintain an old deck based on the sheer amount of new things. I can't afford to keep my decks performing with the new stuff they release because there's always something newer and better.

    Prossh used to be a top-tier deck that I no longer consider dangerous. Prossh was a turn 3 to 4 win, now we are dealing with turn 2 to 3 wins. That's just not fun anymore.

    When I started playing commander in 2014, we would have 8 person pods that would take hours to play, and it was fun, even with turns taking a while. I could conversate, joke, and relax for 3 hours over 1 game. Now, a 4-person pod takes 30 minutes, or everyone gets up because it's taking too long. They took the joy out of the game and replaced it with speed and money.

    That being said, I still have a deck that makes people excited to play because they know it's potential and what they might be able to expect from it. It's faster at throwing the game into a spiral than other decks can win because it is just nutty. People see the deck, and I'll have a line wanting to play in the same game as it because the fun chaos means you don't have to have the best deck to win. You just have to get lucky. Everyone has a fair shot at winning, and that excites people. It's not meant to win. It's meant to have fun.

    That's what I think so many people have lost: the ability to have fun, and I love bringing that back into the game. It's a breath of fresh air.

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  4. This is why the Prof is the GOAT of the MTG world. Every single video spitting facts, saying everything all of us are thinking. Once again another great video. I know you wont, but never change Prof.

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  5. This was a surprisingly therapeutic session, particularly the bit of the discussion about culling your collection and treating Magic as something you own and play your way. Felt like I was listening to Mr. Rogers or something.

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  6. i think it sucked waiting a year to receive it but im glad i finally got my copy of it. the deck is absolutely absurdly fun to play when it pops off. i once killed my friend by doing 10420 damage with the red commander constantly buffing itself and drawing like half my deck with the blue one.

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  7. Well I still havent recieved my 2 collectors boosters and they didnt even sent me deck by itself. Although i recieved e-mail on nov 7th, that on nov 14th they will send me the deck. Well maybe i was wrong that they will send me it after 1 year in november 2022, so i guess i need to wait till november 2023 or smth.
    Not even talking about SL 30 aniversery, i was waiting in line and ordered, and what suposed to be delivered till dec 1st. Guess what? Didnt even sended it either. Great SUXess little indi company 🙁

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  8. I was genuinely surprised you were able to make over 40 minutes about this deck enjoyable to watch. I thought it would be more cost effective to just give everyone a Mana Crypt. It is in Gavin’s deck and says, “We’re sorry!” better than two booster packs.

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  9. Personally I think the deck has some fantastic cards in it but to wait an entire year for the product you ordered to come in is atrocious and two collector boosters don’t make up for that. I understand that certain complications happen in a business but these magic players are your livelihood. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you is a term that comes to mind and I think wizards would be good to remember that. Feels like magic has just had a steady decline in every aspect, and it hasn’t just been recently it’s been on a downhill trend for quite sometime now and it’s the reason I’ve actually started to play yugioh. Hopefully wizards can learn from this and think about their players and not how deep they can make their pockets

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  10. genuine question, but why do so many people double-sleeve their cards at all?
    i've been single-sleeving since i started playing like 20 years ago and i never had issues with condition or dirt or whatever. i find double-sleeves make the cards look duller, which is really unappealing. plus, i can snugly fit my Commander deck into a 80 card deckbox with only one sleevage.

    also, chill video, Prof.

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  11. All these Magic players complaining about a year wait for this deck have obviously never backed a Cool Mini or Not board game on Kickstarter. Some of those games I have waited two years for. I ended up no longer backing board games on Kickstarter because by the time the game came I wasn't even excited about the game anymore because it had been so long I had moved onto something else.

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  12. I think it really depends on the company, if I receive an item one year delayed. I ordered some vinyl records last year and I got it 9 moths delayed – but it came from a very small company and they were just powerless because of the pandemic. They didn't send me any extra items but apologised because of the delay and I was fine with this.
    But if I order something from a bigger company, I actually think that it is necessary to satisfy the customer and give some bonus or a discount. Why? Because they can affort it.

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  13. I strongly suspect the reason the coin wasn't metal is because a metal coin falling on cards, even sleeved, can cause damage. I have a silver dollar I carry around for the novelty, but nobody trusts me with it at a commander game.

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