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I fell into this trap for a long time and drove myself crazy trying to correct my thoughts every day and pray. I tried and tried until I dissociated and my body tried to kill me without my conscious permission. Turns out I have psychotic depression. My thoughts naturally and effortlessly became MUCH more positive when I started taking meds.
If correcting your thoughts doesn’t work, try pills. They work much better.
My therapists tried affirmations, CBT & it just lead to finally being treated with EMDR & that’s been so helpful (as questionable as it can seem)
If you're delusional enough it might work
Sick and tired of handsome rich doctors telling me what to do
Ive always hated CBT and I git into psychology to try and break the behaviorist hegemony over current helping paradigms. One major problem is that CBT relies on self reported surveys to chart progress. Once the client realizes that all he had to do is report progress and the facilitators reward this false progress as real. Fake it till you make it just makes you fake.
I'm SCREAMINGGG. This is so real. You don't just live. Laugh. Love. Out of mental illness! I wish my family would hear this.
I think affirmations benefit children more than they benefit adults, and this is my experience from working in High schools
Debate with J.Peterson
RESULTS TAKES WORK & AFFIRMATIONS HELP KEEP YOU MOTIVATED TO KEEP PUSHING.
The only role of Affirmations is to try and teach you to be kinder to yourself. On affirmations alone you may never truly belive the statement "i am valuable", if you belive youre the most revolting useless being on the planet. You may however think youre less revolting and have some use, after a while. Its about preventing negitive self talk which always makes it much worse than before. If overvalued (in your opinon) statements like "i am important/beautiful/valuable/needed" dont work for you try things that are way more possible. Like "im not entirely useless/revolting/a waste/worthless" because in reality youre not. Its hard to deny the fact you have some use, and arent so disguting that you make people genuinely gag at the sight of you. Its about bringing your self image back up to a realistic amount, because realistically there isnt a reason why you should believe that youre worthless/revolting, that you dont deserve to care about yourself, and deserve to be constantly berated and abused. Youre probably just some average person who really hates themselves, and who knows, maybe you are actually important/beautiful/valuable/needed. Vital to making the vibe okay, beautifully kind and attractive to a partner, valuable to those who work with you, and needed by those around you. If you arent those things, just know that learning to cut yourself some slack is the first step to becoming those things.
Stop focusing on what you are, start focusing on what you can do.
Complimenting yourself will slowly turn your brain into jello.
Misleading information. Sure, affirmations don’t change your external problems but they help you have a better attitude. They adjust an internal problem, and that shouldn’t be discounted.
Agree with this.
Im glad someone is saying it. Its good to affirm your self worth, however you have to be realistic. Confidence is only part of the equation.
I mean….I think there is a lot to say that negative thoughts are pretty poisonous to our psyche, personality, attitude, behavior, etc. If my mind is constantly telling me, “you’re not good enough, you can’t do that thing, you’d be better off de@d” it’s hard to argue that learning to stop and control those thoughts isn’t at least a little helpful. I grow up in an extremely physical and emotional home. So most of my adult life I’ve needed to combat those awful thoughts instilled into me by my mother. I do that with positive thinking and daily affirmations.
Where can I find the full episode?
Absolute truth! Thank you
Affirmations help, but when taken to extremes, when heavily relied upon, can lead to ignorance. All the sudden telling yourself "you're good enough" means that you don't need to worry about X or Y because you've conditioned yourself into accepting it.
Otherwise we wouldn’t need psychiatry
CBT is a crock of shyte
His statement is that these positive self affirmations are not effective on their own. Merely telling yourself in the morning that you are confident, outgoing, and high achieving is not enough to overcome the problem, hence why if that alone works, you did not have as much of a challenge with it as you believed. To overcome the problem when it is actually present and impacting your day-to-day life (e.g., not socializing as much as you wish you could, self-sabotaging your own success because you're worried that in the end, you will fail and have to fall further than if you never even climbed the ladder, or just not being happy with your performances in life), you need to act, not just speak. In order to become confident when you are truly not to begin with, you must step far out of your comfort zone and grow as a person, which will throw some challenges your way. It's not simple and when you believe that it is super easy and don't put any action to what you say, you will not change in the ways you desire. You need to chase what you want, not just look at it and hope that it comes to you.
You gotta believe it to have the energy to then actually do the work to solve your problems
My problem with j not affirmations themselves but the popularization of affirmations online is that you’re listening to other peoples perceptions of life. I remember onceI was stressed and listening to two back to back on YouTube and it was at first disconcerting the difference, then later chilling to me and I think about it to this day. My anxiety was about work, success, and money. The first was a white woman, the affirmation was “money comes to me infinitely and freely from everywhere. Everywhere is money waiting to come to me.” The next was a black man. “My hard work is how I know I am good. When I work hard I get what I deserve.” By themselves, they are each fine, but seeing as my anxiety was about the intersection of race, class, and wealth distribution, it really hit me and felt really bad. I’ve tried affirmations a lot, and inevitably there is a comment that doesn’t situate how I choose to self identify or see the world. I remember thinking “why aren’t these working for me? Why don’t I believe any of these kind words?” I didn’t have faith in the people telling me them because they were strangers and streams get money, it felt hollow. I started making my own affirmations. It was very hard to decide what I want to believe and choosing to invest in believing them stronger, but once I did I started feeling much better about them. Affirmations are now catch phrase assurances. They are just things I think that I need to remind myself of in the form of a short sentenceZ
No it’s not that easy but mindset is a large component. It’s what enables you to start making choices and a
Changes to work on the problem.