Hey everyone Rho here! Today we reach the final of your ranking the Primarch’s Horus Heresy journeys. Just who has the greatest story?
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Vulcan lives!
Hai Chogoris!
Magnus said one of the dumbest things in the entire heresy "Sometimes you can make a deal with the things in the warp and come out the better". So much for him being the smart one.
I'll never understand why Big E didn't just allow the remaining Thousand Sons to die in a blaze of glory in the Webway. Both he and Magnus knew the legion was on borrowed time, so why not use that little remaining time to die on their own terms and in a beneficial way? Just imagine the scene of the entire 15th legion charging the hordes of Chaos, powers fully unleashed with no fear of death.
3rd, the keshig approve of this position.
I still don't know what the Emperor expected when he told Magnus "I love you like a son and because of my fatherly love we can have one last chance…oh but you have to kill all YOUR sons that you sacrificed all this for". That was so supremely hypocritical I nearly turned to chaos myself.
All he had to do is NOT add in the son-killing bit and he had Magnus at the most crucial time.
lorgar wasnt even the most influential word bearer in the heresy the main bad guy was erebus
While I can see Magnus being No.1, for me No.2 is the Khan. A Primarch we knew next to nothing about, but as the story progressed he went from being unknowable and detesting his father, to understanding why his father did what he did, and outside of Dorn, being one of the most respected Primarchs at the end of the Heresy
Nick Kyme ruined Vulkan! If you took all of his dialogue, throughout the entire Heresy – you wouldn't be able to fill a single page.
Magnus's story contains nothing wrong.
All traitor primachs should be higher.
I’ve been good with your assertions so far, but I have to take exception to Vulkan. Yes, he had a lot happen to him over the course of the heresy & he was on Terra at the end, but his journey is only interesting in summary. Having to slog through those books was a monumental chore. They are collectively the weakest books in the series – yes, even the Iron Hands vs warp-tainted Dinosaurs novel was better. For that fact alone, Vulkan should be ranked below Robby G.
Lorgar has the most interesting story of all the primarchs and leman Russ is the worst primarch 😮
I dig it
I will give you 1 & 2, but the Khan at 3? Perturabo and Fulgrim so low? Not a chance. Dorn did nothing during the Heresy except be mad until the traitors got all the way to Terra. Great videos, you always put out quality content, but I just have to disagree with you on those. Perturabo and Fulgrim were there every step from Istvaan V until the gates of the Palace.
I'd probably flip Khan and Vulkan's positions, but I'm biased toward the Salamanders in general lolz
VULKAN LIVES!!! stomp stomp
The emperor should of accepted his son back and had him and magnus children fight in the webway and they would have got wiped out instead of his custodes and could have possibly helped in the vengeful Spirit for less collateral damage
Great stuff Rho!
THE WARHAWK
No 1 magnus
No 2 Vulkan
No 3 Lorgar
No 4 Jagati
Tbh a moment of any primarch ripping out a greater demons heart roaring "For the Emperor!" is badass as it is… but the Khan? Boy, that scene just lands so flawlessly, because of who Jaghatai is as a person. Because he is one of the most… unknowable but ultimately most human primarchs of them all. Plus his bromance with Sanguinius is so wholesome. I really don't know if I'd be ready for a scene of the Khan waking up to learn of his brothers death. I mean… I want that scene, but damn…
I think lorgar and magnus are the two most important primarchs for the emperor to have mishandled. The two of them represent more than all the others what comes next after the dust settles. Magnus's scholarly nature and lorgar's philosophical mind would have put meaning to the struggle of the imperium.
I'm close with your top 3, but for me it would be Magnus, Lorgar and Angron with Perturabo in a close 4th.
If only Magnus had been a good boy and chilled on the throne for a few millennia.
I can easily see how all of your rankings are spot on. But as you said, they are subjective, and I could see Sanguinius being seen as number ine as well, being as pivotal as it is to the Heresy. I would guess some people see Dorn as number one, or Guilliman as their personal favorite due to his heroism. But as far as the quality of the writing, your rankings are definitely valid in an objective sense too, something very close to them, anyway!
While lorgar isn't one of my favorite primarchs he does have a great story. But like I said last time magnus story is bad. The moral of never learn from your mistakes and don't grow from them. Is just not to my taste. Love you Rho bit have to disagree with your number one spot. Still think that has to go to Sanguinius. Or maybe Horus. And kurze.
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The Khan… "Superior".
The Great Kahn went from the Steps to the Stars on a great journey with his sons to return to the place of his creation. In his own words “I fight for an Empire who never wanted against an army that would have taken me in a heart beat” His closest brothers Horus fell, then manipulated that fool Rus to attack Magnus. Then the death of Sanguinius. All three of his closest brothers gone. Horus, The Angel, Magnus. Then as was stated above lost his closest sons. But he would manage to stand on Terra as he had vowed to do, even when cornered by the Iron Warriors, Death Guard, Emperors Children. Still he found a way to Terra. FOR THE KHAGAN AND THE EMPEROR.
Magnus should be the next traitor primarch to get a spotlight and time to shine. Followed up by the return of Leman Russ.
the thing about Magnus rejecting the emperors offer, Vulkan actually says thats not how it went, and it was Magnus who pleaded with the Emperor but the Emperor said he could not do anything as Magnus had already sold his soul to Tzeentch
Fun series. I loved it.
As much as Magnus really did something wrong… you cant help but feel for the fact that he has to choose between killing his beloved father or killing his beloved sons. What sort of twisted shit is that? A true tragedy
Also Léman Russ is the worst
Could you cover the journeys of other protagonists in the Horus Heresy? And their impact on the setting?
A thousand sons is the book that made Magnus my favorite primarch and the other books that I read dont come close to that one for me but Im far from having read them all though. But I dont like traitor primarchs behaving like emotional children as they so often seem to do, loyal primarchs before they turned traitor I find the most interesting. Primarchs not having the control of their emotional state always strikes me as very weird.
Have to agree entirely with Magnus being far and away the best heresy story
I think Vulkans story is just to silly. Just because he is a perpetual they put him through every death imaginable.
No primarch dies of a heart attack but Vulkan, no one dies in a nuclear explosion but Vulkan, no one is tortoured to death … but Vulkan…
It makes it seem like Vulkan dies so easy, because in one book he dies more than all other brother combined…
Top 5 –
Magnus – everything he went through
Corax – Diddo + the capability to fight the guerrilla war
Vulcan – Diddo
Sanguinius – to finally read what happened
Lorgar – IMO we learned the most about Lorgar, than any other
Bottom 5
The Gorgan – as a IH successor player I just wish there was more there
Perty – For a top strategists who… always missed the compliments given him… he was out strategized by a IF captain, not even a primarch
Fulgrim – agree he fell too quick and was not used throughout but stayed true the ADHD'ness of the lore… squirrel
Angron – no depth there… but loved the depth of Kharn
Alpha Legion – As you said Rho… I loved the twins, but wish there was more there.
Although I can't forgive Magnus for sacrificing the civilians of Prospero for an 'ideal' he abandoned moments later, I do agree with your assessment here. What was the Emperor thinking?! "Just kill your sons, my beloved son, and everything will be all right."
Such a simp please change your channel name to lord of the thousands sons. His is the most basic boring story of all .
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It would be great to see a "What-If" for if Magnus had said "Yes"
How you could have Khan above Dorn blows my mind.
It's too bad chaos has to act stupidly for the Imperium to win.