The lack of intelligence and mental focus of these cops is astounding. Most of the training for the cops is about the use of force, not knowledge of law. They always look for a way to circumvent the law. Ultimately these two cops did okay, but they always approach people with a threatening attitude. If the alleged crime is a misdemeanor, and the police do not witness any crime at the scene, they have zero grounds to make demands or use any force.
Thank you for being part of the solution, not part of the problem. How do I see you as a solution? Because you choose to not cater to sensationalism and only put up videos with a negative connotation. Not many auditors do this. They seek out the bad, and almost glorify the bad. You seek out truth and knowledge, "good" or "bad" be damned.
How does asking for "financial gain" (can't call it money, there isn't any constitutional money in a circulation) in front of a polling area harm someone constituting a violation of law?
An 'LSD law', perhaps? Because you have to be under the influence of LSD in order to understand it *AND* make sense of it. 🤔
“He’s not panhandling”….. “let me looking in the statutes…. regarding panhandling”. 🤦♂️ disgusting and then he tells the voting lady again “he’s not panhandling” wow
This also shows how much society has 'dummied-down" people.
Am I the only one who can see that –
– flying a sign DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN that he wants anyone to hand him ANYTHING. All that is is a stereotype.
– by holding a sign saying, "God bless homeless veterans", Jeff is not trying to influence anyone's election decisions.
However mindless, dummied-down 'sheople' have not been taught to think for themselves. So that makes it very obvious they can't figure things out for themselves either. 👎😑👎
What are the sheople taught to do? One of the most important lessons they learn – is to do what they're told to do, and not to question authority. They're taught to be 'flying monkeys'. 👎😑👎
More reasons why I don't support public education, aka…the American fool system. 👎😑👎
They assumed you were homeless and begging (solicitating?) for money. When you assume, that makes an ass out of u and me, and I find it disturbing that Officer Sherenko? there felt the need to mute his bodycam while talking to the other cop, twice…..nuff said.
cops need a dictionary and look up the word –solicit—— approach, ask, ask for, beg, beseech, bespeak, bid for, call, call on, call upon, canvass, challenge, claim, court, crave, demand, desire, drum, entice, entreat, exact, fish for, go, hustle, implore, importune, look for, lure, make a pass, make advances, make an overture, overture, pander to, petition, pop the question, postulate, pray, proposition, refer, request, require, requisition, resort, seek, sue, sue for, supplicate, throw a pass, turn, woo
Can anyone explain why solicitation has two definitions, depending on if it's a civil or criminal offense? I've only really heard of the panhandling version.
Criminally, it's paying/coercing someone to break a law ("the inchoate offense of offering money to someone with the specific intent of inducing that person to commit a crime"). Civilly, it's typically associated with begging, panhandling, as well as the door-to-door salesman approach ("In civil law, solicitation means any request or appeal, either oral or written, or any endeavor to obtain, seek or plead for funds, property, financial assistance or other thing of value, including the promise or grant of any money or property of any kind or value").
I really do love the ones where the law enforcement officers do the right thing. I know most people like the negative interactions, but I honestly love the ones where rights are upheld and everyone is respectful and the right things happen. Jeff is a great American, raising awareness of our rights and our RESPONSIBILITIES as free citizens of the United States.
THE IGNORANCE LEVEL AMONG COPS & ELECTION WORKERS IS PATHETIC===== SURELY IN THE RUNUP TO AN ELECTION SENIOR COPS BRIEF THE ROAD-RUNNERS AND RLECTION WORKERS ARE SIMILARILY BRIEFED ====== NOW ARE SENIOR MANAGEMENT INCOMPETENT OR DO THE CLOWNS NOT LISTEN========= THESE COPS CERTAINLY DID NOT LISTEN, EVEN TO THE EVIDENCE OF THEIR OWN EYES======= NO SOLICITION & THEY ACCEPTED THAT BUT THEN WENT ON A CALL WITH SOME , I ASSUME, SENIOR COP, AND REPEATED THE SOLICITATION NONSENCE===== NEITHER THEY, THE SENIOR COP OR ELECTION WORKERS BOTHERED TO READ THE LAW & HANDBOOK WHICH ALLOWS CITIZENS TO BE THERE, AS HYOCRI POINTED OUT TO THE COPS, LOADS OF PEOPLE AROUND YET HE WAS THE ONLY ONE TARGETED——- OF COURSE ITS BECAUSE THEY ASSUMED HE WAS HOMELESS AND AS IS OFTEN SAID "WE DONT WANT YOUR SORT HERE"=========== IGNORANT, STUPID, INCOMPETENT IDIOTS======
CPL EVENTUALLY GOT IT NEARLY CORRECT AND THE TRESPASS BY THE OTHER IDIOT DIED THE DEATH AND THE THREAT OF ARREST WAS WITHDRAWN BUT WHY DOES IT TAKE A VERY EDUCATED STUBBORN PERSON STANDING UP FOR CIVIL RIGHTS TO HAVE THEM RESPECTED=======
The barrier god bless the barrier and all his children. Jessy will let you know about the Barrier and code enforcement. Voter barrier will get you a warning give or get one of the two. Now the Cop will tell you about the Barrier he knows the Barrier because sho told him about the Barrier. M. Salmon doesn't know about the Barrier he hasn't seen it. But he knows where the parking lot is. Officer Kryshchenko knows how to mute his mic. So does the Barrier. M. Salmon gets a B Kryshchenko gets a D and if Salmon was not there he would have violated Jeffs civil wrights. And the Barrier is still there but I still can't see it.
Once a county, city or state leases a building for public service, it is no longer considered private property. It is essentially a public building. You cannot trespass a citizen from a public place unless they break the law. Most police are ignorant of this ruling.
It's actually REALLY reassuring that these cops are taking this seriously and actually double checking the laws to make sure they don't violate your rights.
looks like shopping mall property, BUT having a public office in there makes things unclear. access to it must be public, so I think that alone gives anyone 1A rights. 150' doesn't even count, he's not campaigning or soliciting
15:14 "they're interpreting it as solicitation…" What's the reality ? Actual events. What's the interpretation of the law ? At least these cops used rational thinking and argument.
what i dont get,is why is everyone assuming that jeff is soliciting? all the videos ive seen,he may have asked for money once and that was like "you cant solicit here" and jeff "hold my beer"
It is really nice to see cops respecting someone's RIGHTS for once!!!
The lack of intelligence and mental focus of these cops is astounding. Most of the training for the cops is about the use of force, not knowledge of law. They always look for a way to circumvent the law. Ultimately these two cops did okay, but they always approach people with a threatening attitude. If the alleged crime is a misdemeanor, and the police do not witness any crime at the scene, they have zero grounds to make demands or use any force.
But hes not soliciting anything
Thank you for being part of the solution, not part of the problem. How do I see you as a solution? Because you choose to not cater to sensationalism and only put up videos with a negative connotation. Not many auditors do this. They seek out the bad, and almost glorify the bad. You seek out truth and knowledge, "good" or "bad" be damned.
Thank you for what you do.
No god does the real.
How does asking for "financial gain" (can't call it money, there isn't any constitutional money in a circulation) in front of a polling area harm someone constituting a violation of law?
An 'LSD law', perhaps? Because you have to be under the influence of LSD in order to understand it *AND* make sense of it. 🤔
These two guys should become a national police training team. Wonderful to see such ethical police.
Hey Jeff, get that hand looked at – looks nasty
“He’s not panhandling”….. “let me looking in the statutes…. regarding panhandling”. 🤦♂️ disgusting and then he tells the voting lady again “he’s not panhandling” wow
Excellent police work here
This also shows how much society has 'dummied-down" people.
Am I the only one who can see that –
– flying a sign DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN that he wants anyone to hand him ANYTHING. All that is is a stereotype.
– by holding a sign saying, "God bless homeless veterans", Jeff is not trying to influence anyone's election decisions.
However mindless, dummied-down 'sheople' have not been taught to think for themselves. So that makes it very obvious they can't figure things out for themselves either.
👎😑👎
What are the sheople taught to do?
One of the most important lessons they learn – is to do what they're told to do, and not to question authority.
They're taught to be 'flying monkeys'.
👎😑👎
More reasons why I don't support public education, aka…the American fool system.
👎😑👎
Great job officers! Logic and common sense wins!
They assumed you were homeless and begging (solicitating?) for money. When you assume, that makes an ass out of u and me, and I find it disturbing that Officer Sherenko? there felt the need to mute his bodycam while talking to the other cop, twice…..nuff said.
cops need a dictionary and look up the word
–solicit——approach, ask,ask for, beg, beseech, bespeak, bid for, call, call on, call upon,
canvass, challenge, claim, court, crave, demand, desire, drum,
entice, entreat, exact, fish for, go, hustle, implore, importune,
look for, lure, make a pass, make advances, make an overture,
overture, pander to, petition, pop the question, postulate, pray,
proposition, refer, request, require, requisition, resort, seek,
sue, sue for, supplicate, throw a pass, turn, woo
Pretty good police interaction.
Wondering how "God bless the homeless veterans" can be interpreted as soliciting?
Petty beauraucrats are the worst. They assume power that is not theirs to take/have.
They took a bit longer but they got it right. Do it right once instead of wrong over and over it'll cost less tax money and violate less rights.
Can anyone explain why solicitation has two definitions, depending on if it's a civil or criminal offense? I've only really heard of the panhandling version.
Criminally, it's paying/coercing someone to break a law ("the inchoate offense of offering money to someone with the specific intent of inducing that person to commit a crime").
Civilly, it's typically associated with begging, panhandling, as well as the door-to-door salesman approach ("In civil law, solicitation means any request or appeal, either oral or written, or any endeavor to obtain, seek or plead for funds, property, financial assistance or other thing of value, including the promise or grant of any money or property of any kind or value").
I cannot believe what I'm seeing! Police are looking up the relevant law and not just doing whatever the hell it is that they think they know?
I really do love the ones where the law enforcement officers do the right thing. I know most people like the negative interactions, but I honestly love the ones where rights are upheld and everyone is respectful and the right things happen. Jeff is a great American, raising awareness of our rights and our RESPONSIBILITIES as free citizens of the United States.
"theres a whole grey area im not willing to cross" best thing I've ever heard a cop say.
You only have free speech if she says its ok.
Pretty good Policing to a point, so not all American Police are tyrants. Stay safe out there mate.
You can't trespass anybody from public property unless they've broken a law.
shouldn't be aloud to mute the camera doesn't lie cops only alter it! if you have nothing to hide then don't alter
THE IGNORANCE LEVEL AMONG COPS & ELECTION WORKERS IS PATHETIC===== SURELY IN THE RUNUP TO AN ELECTION SENIOR COPS BRIEF THE ROAD-RUNNERS AND RLECTION WORKERS ARE SIMILARILY BRIEFED ====== NOW ARE SENIOR MANAGEMENT INCOMPETENT OR DO THE CLOWNS NOT LISTEN========= THESE COPS CERTAINLY DID NOT LISTEN, EVEN TO THE EVIDENCE OF THEIR OWN EYES======= NO SOLICITION & THEY ACCEPTED THAT BUT THEN WENT ON A CALL WITH SOME , I ASSUME, SENIOR COP, AND REPEATED THE SOLICITATION NONSENCE===== NEITHER THEY, THE SENIOR COP OR ELECTION WORKERS BOTHERED TO READ THE LAW & HANDBOOK WHICH ALLOWS CITIZENS TO BE THERE, AS HYOCRI POINTED OUT TO THE COPS, LOADS OF PEOPLE AROUND YET HE WAS THE ONLY ONE TARGETED——- OF COURSE ITS BECAUSE THEY ASSUMED HE WAS HOMELESS AND AS IS OFTEN SAID "WE DONT WANT YOUR SORT HERE"=========== IGNORANT, STUPID, INCOMPETENT IDIOTS======
CPL EVENTUALLY GOT IT NEARLY CORRECT AND THE TRESPASS BY THE OTHER IDIOT DIED THE DEATH AND THE THREAT OF ARREST WAS WITHDRAWN BUT WHY DOES IT TAKE A VERY EDUCATED STUBBORN PERSON STANDING UP FOR CIVIL RIGHTS TO HAVE THEM RESPECTED=======
I respect GOOD CONSTITUTION ABIDING LAW ENFORCEMENT…I am just sad that it's so rare today.
WTF is solicitating? No such word. Soliciting
The barrier god bless the barrier and all his children. Jessy will let you know about the Barrier and code enforcement. Voter barrier will get you a warning give or get one of the two. Now the Cop will tell you about the Barrier he knows the Barrier because sho told him about the Barrier. M. Salmon doesn't know about the Barrier he hasn't seen it. But he knows where the parking lot is. Officer Kryshchenko knows how to mute his mic. So does the Barrier. M. Salmon gets a B Kryshchenko gets a D and if Salmon was not there he would have violated Jeffs civil wrights. And the Barrier is still there but I still can't see it.
Mandatory bodycams is a great thing. It benefits everyone.
1 good cop is 1 more than I expected. Fair play
Pretty smart officers! They just did not go for it
Once again Jeff is the corner stone of this new wave of auditors and he never takes credit for that.
What a humble guy he is.
We love you Jeff ❤
Once a county, city or state leases a building for public service, it is no longer considered private property. It is essentially a public building. You cannot trespass a citizen from a public place unless they break the law. Most police are ignorant of this ruling.
Dave's finding it very hard to cope with this very difficult encounter.
I don't think they know what "soliciting" means.
It's actually REALLY reassuring that these cops are taking this seriously and actually double checking the laws to make sure they don't violate your rights.
Well done officers
looks like shopping mall property, BUT having a public office in there makes things unclear. access to it must be public, so I think that alone gives anyone 1A rights. 150' doesn't even count, he's not campaigning or soliciting
Babahahah land of the free!!! Utter pish if i have ever heard it!!
Early voting is how they cheat cmm
There’s NO SOLICITATING Jeff…..damn.
What is with people ? Do they know what soliciting is❓😲 You're NOT SOLICITING❗❗❗
You're not "s o l i c i t a t i n g" either.😂😂😂😂
Nice to see a law enforcement officer enforcement of the law. Great vid
Congratulations to those officers especially one in car well done.
15:14 "they're interpreting it as solicitation…"
What's the reality ? Actual events. What's the interpretation of the law ? At least these cops used rational thinking and argument.
what i dont get,is why is everyone assuming that jeff is soliciting? all the videos ive seen,he may have asked for money once and that was like "you cant solicit here" and jeff "hold my beer"