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It is an extremely common trope in Hollywood apocalyptic movies/shows that when you see a christian leader you're supposed to see a cult leader. It's never going to change because it's what every atheist in hollywood thinks of christians and even christians understand yes there are some. So you're never going to get strong resentment for doing it. Until it's just overused and every christian leader in hollywood movies is a cult leader.
Main thing I learned from this video is that Jen would 100% never survive an apocalypse.
My wife had the exact same reaction as you Holden. She is tired of seeing every person holding a bible in the apocalypse ends up being bad. The only exception being Father Gabriel on Walking Dead but he started out as a coward who let his entire congregation be taken by a herd. I, though, tend to look at it a bit differently. I see the people following David as good hearted Christians (maybe not James but the rest of the towns folks) and David, a sociopath, is using their faith against them. HE is no Christian at all. I do agree though that it would be nice if, just ONCE, heroes in the apocalypse came upon a preacher and his people and they were nice, fed them and gave them supplies. Its interesting that it was the Communists who did that for Joel and Ellie and not anyone else.
They have been around in the apocalypse for 20 years, they have no excuse for being poor hunter/fisher/grower… Ellie found a rabbit n a deer in one morning
Book Of Eil is the best
I literally had the same conversation with my sister as we were watching ep 7. I’m like oh so this was in the dlc, and I kid you not she instantly said “what’s dlc?”😂
"I don't want the deer to die". LOL. I'm vegan. But for survival…. that Bambi is a goner…and Thumper too.
Just wait until Jen finds out about microtransactions 😂
Meh the fact that the groomer/pedo was a teacher is pretty fitting considering the decay of modern teacher unions. I am guessing he was one of the woke alphabet people pre pandemic and jumped ship to a new grift later in life.
I don’t think Jen would survive in an apocalypse situation. “Don’t kill anything!” “Okay then eat this root for a tree.” You have to eat and for the entire time humanity has been on this planet that’s how we have eaten.
I see Jennifer is fine with horrible graphic violence committed against humans but if it is fluffy you can’t touch them.
4:23 “When can we bury him?” stomach rumbling noises made me laugh a little bit too hard
Your explanation of dlcs was so cringe in this context honestly.. literally nothing you said applies to the left behind dlc at all and dlc isn't an inherently bad concept either
react to RRR
Jen: "I didn't see that coming"
Holden: "I did"
hoo boyy
For what it's worth I'm pretty sure David isn't ACTUALLY Christian, my interpretation is that he was cynically using religion as a way to amass power. Based on what he says to Ellie when she's in the cage, saying how everyone else "needs God" but Ellie doesn't because she's "his equal". Basically implying he views himself as a higher power, above the commoners he's overseeing.
Very common among psychopaths and serial killers to my understanding.
titanic is my favorite movie and i love every time yall make titanic references in ur videos 😂❤️
didnt mean to saddle you with sadness didnt get the credit it deserved.
The movie is called Alive, Holden. Stars a young Ethan Hawke.
I believe the dlc left behind is free for the ps4 remastered and the remake on the ps5. Just not free for the ps3.
Jen "DLCs should be free" Holden and me at the same time "Preaching to the choir" and games with all the bonuses do depend on the company Hogwarts Legacy cost me $112
Left Behind came with the remastered copy I got on ps4 and I believe has been free for all newer versions too
With regards to DLC, in all fairness, if you wait for a while instead of buying the game when it first releases, there's usually a "gold" or "ultimate" edition (or possibly a "Game of the Year" edition) that'll release at a lower cost that has all of the content in it from the start. But overall it's not a great system…you can blame The Sims for it becoming such a widespread thing in the gaming sphere.
22:05 Pretty sure Holden's talking about the Uruguayan Flight 571 incident in the Andes Mountains back in the early 70s, though only about a third of that group survived…probably the best-known incident of people turning to cannibalism for survival would be the Donner Party, which got trapped in a freak blizzard in the Sierra Nevada mountains about 20 miles north of Lake Tahoe and ended with roughly the 50-50 survival rate.
Jen "oh no not the rabbit, deer, or horse" also Jen "yeah kill the humans – gut em ellie"😂😂🤣
I agree Holden, react to The Book of Eli. Such a great movie!!
Jen not wanting Ellie to kill the rabbit or deer for food but the human meat looks good lol 😂😂
Probably my 3rd fav episode behind 5 and 1 👍😎 was a good one!!
Holden too butthurt to realize that David isn’t actually a Christian and doesn’t even sound like he believes in god at all when talking to ellie. It’s just being used as a means of control. As has been the case in most of history, and will continue to be the case as long as it’s around.
It’s not a trope when the statistics are astonishing and starkly shows the church and religions are used and abused by those within, in whatever way possible
since this video involved religion, will there be a christian take on cannibalism ?
This episode left me wondering if that was a proper way to administer penicillin.
It may be uncomfortable, Holden, but the truth is that many people use Christianity and God to further their own ends and have for hundreds of years now.
In present day this is still true, just look at politicians and news sources to see that. Jesus is used to excuse annd encourage evils, and is used to influence and manipulate people who claim to believe in his teachings.
This isn’t a creation of Hollywood. It’s Hollywood depicting scenarios that are unfortunately real and unfortunately common.
Book of Eli is such a good movie!
David was using Christianity to manipulate people into following him, he didn’t really believe in what he was preaching
Jen freaking out about DLC not being free things is something i absolutely love, we really as players have got used to it now sadly
4:45 the guy who plays james is troy baker and hes the voice actor from joel
Bambi scène: I’m such a baby, I don’t like this.
Me: oh, the rest of this episode should be a doozy for you then! 😉
Y'alls synchronized faces at the needle going into Joel had me cracking up.
So now I want a Powerpuff Girls graphic tshirt.
Edit: Ha, I just found it at Target lol.
1:02 do you work for free? … cause a video-game company that has to invest millions in servers, paying developers, the actors, designers, writers, sound design, HR, rent a building, buy computers an so on… i would expect them to sell their product… so…. yeah…
1:37 no not really… cause when they did the WHOLE game of The Last of Us that was it, then later on time, they had the idea of additional content, more for the players, to expand on the characters and the story and then! they came up with the DLC and worked on it… so, your argument makes no sense.
4:36… *sigh*… you know, thats Troy Baker, most gamers recognized him, hes the actual voice and mocap of JOEL in the games, you can hear Joel's og voice when he speaks…
holden accidentally fell into the trap of 'oh this is a horrible Christian being portrayed- I should be upset'
nah
dude was a math teacher before the apocalypse- he was never a Shepard of Sheep like he was lied; he was a Wolf in Shepard's clothing.
trust but verify, it wasn't villainizing here it was a warning to stay cautious, you never know with anyone of any type.
What is with the pose in the thumbnail?
I feel like a DLC being free wouldn't work. You still have to pay for the programmers, designers, story artists, etc. If it is priced right, it could work. That whole thing with Riley really helped to understand Ellie and is more important context that I think could change how you view the show.
Luckily the episode was a lot more exciting than this review.
I didn't catch the fact the diner was called Todds till this reaction haha