Moon Bases are Better Than Mars Bases?



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37 thoughts on “Moon Bases are Better Than Mars Bases?”

  1. Personally, space bases at the moment are kinda pointless unless we can make them self-sufficient… the earth can't afford to export millions of liter-gallons of water to places where it can't return to earth. That's also why it's a really dumb idea to just chuck our garbage/carbon into space, we'll need that garbage as new material in a million years or so

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  2. Vaush is incorrect but I forgive him for not knowing:
    The magnetosphere is, as the name implies, magnetic, as such it can only deflect charged particles like, say, solar wind, which is made of protons, electrons and a bunch of ionized elements.
    On the other hand it's the ozonosphere that stops EM radiation from hitting the surface, because ozone scatters gamma and UV rays and lowers their overall energy

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  3. Just a nitpick light is a kind of radiation the reverse is not true.

    The kind of radiation we struggle with in space is high energy particle radiation.
    Light radiation is pretty easy to stop with our current technology.

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  4. For a politics guy he knows a lot about science but let me correct Vaush on the last bit of the segment:
    So with earth's magnetic field: The sun emits multiple forms of radiation: electromagnetic radiation (mostly visible light, infared and UV radiation) and very fast, small, electrically charged particles (protons, helium cores, electrons and such) which are also known as the "solar wind." Electromagnetic radiation is electrically neutral and can't be manipulated by magnetic fields, the solar wind however is what the magnetic field actually shields us from. The solar wind's particles pose a danger to our atmosphere as they are the medium that would slowly deplete it (as it happened with Mars) and with it the proctective ozone layer. This layer is what blocks the sun's (very dangerous) UV radiation, which can penetrate the magnetic field as it's without a charge. Were it not for the ozone layer, earth's surface would be uninhabitable for life as we know it.
    Also a reminder that you should use sun screen, folks.

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  5. Not only would it be cool to live on the moon, the view would be fantastic! Imagine being able to look upon this blue diamond we live on! Seeing it every day in all its glory! Ahhhhhh, how wonderful :3 Also, if we encounter hostile aliens, a moon base as the last line of defense is paramount!

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  6. ISS is also in LOW earth orbit. It's barely space. So low it has to move very fast — goes around the earth every 90 minutes. So it's very protected by earth's magnetic field. Unlike a theoretical moon base. I agree that a (underground!) moonbase is 1000000x more practical than a mars base. And people have to realize anything mined in space stays in space — it's not going to be brought back to earth ever, because that would be dumb. It could be brought to a moonbase though. And the moonbase should be built by robots via telepresence — VR can have an actual application here to compensate for the light-lag — 2.56 seconds roundtrip lag would be disorientating and really slow some things down for tasks requiring manual dexterity but initial heavy construction could be compensated for by training. We should have done all this decades ago tbh.

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  7. I think one thing people don't get about radiation is it depends on the type. Alpha radiation if inside you will fuck you up but is stopped by paper externally (it becomes helium once it grabs electrons). Beta can be stopped easily enough because it has a charge. However once you start getting into gamma, xrays and neutron radiation shit gets complicated. Essentially the only thing way to stop them is mass and even then some forms are better than others. A rule of thumb would be about a meter of concrete and stop most neutron or gamma radiation. If you put the same amount of mass just denser that also works, however problem is that means heavy in space. We could make windows theoretically but they would likely need to be a meter thick. Radiation is the big issue for space at all times. We just don't currently have good solutions to it

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  8. You know what's better than a moon base or a mars base? A rotating high orbital base. Mars is too far and gravity well with an atmosphere that makes take off difficult without even being breathable. The moon though is filled with static-charged moon dust which (without an atmosphere to erode it) are just tiny, jagged glass shards that cling to everything making any sort of production a nightmare.

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  9. The moon was given to me by birthright. Should NASA attempt to colonize the lunar surface it would be an open declaration of war. Their blood will fill the great crater tombs of our ancestors. Sign up to defend the moon from Earth today.

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  10. Most space craft I can think of have windows, apollo, iss, space shuttle, and so on. They usually have small windows though, the reason they have small windows or almost none has to do primarily with ayructural integrity, glass breaks and cracks ( let's air out) eaisier then pretty much anything else. It also nearly impossible to repair in space where as you could weld metal back together. Space craft tend to have alot of cameras because of that. An interesting solution that alot of spacecraft have used to get around qΓ±l the issues of glass in space are periscopes, the mercury space capsule actual had a periscope on it that the pilot could look out of just like a window.

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