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Awsome video, hope you're feeling better cap.
Also if there ever is a fix to the gummed up carrier problem, it should have at least a delay to simulate clearing the deck of a downed aircraft. What that time delay would be would be up to you guys of course.
Wouldn't you fire anti-ship missiles first? That way you allow the minimal amount of Jap aircraft to get airborne.
Playing out the Final Countdown scenario.
That was amazingly put together and amazingly fun! Thank you very much!
I am not an expert but would the missile tracking be affected at all if the Japanese planes approached/cruised at close to sea level?
And if so would be nice to see that scenario.
A scenario where we can contrive that the Japanese had some type of intel to help them via tactics to give them the best possible chance.
A kind of best case scenario based considering the massive tech difference.
i have a semi regular customer who comes in wearing a cvn-65 uss nimitz hat. i asked him "so where you there on the Nimitz on dec 7th 1941 when she took on the entire imperial japanese navy?
His answer was "Yes. Yes I was. I'm in the movie twice as an extra"
Considering the ijn fleet would be sunk from 200 miles away….
this was really cool to watch and thank you for making it, but the reality is a 1980s us carrier would have simply launched an attack at dawn when the Japanese were preparing to launch planes, sank their carriers, flew back rearmed, sank the battle ships and cruisers. a few destroyers might escape. a 90s carrier would have just attacked at 2 am and sank everything at once.
I'm guessing neither the Japanese airmen nor sailors could tell what was downing their planes inside a few miles of their ships.
Are you going to have to do a modern Japanese fleet against Pearl Harbour now? One with 1941 fleet defences and another with 2025 fleet?
"At this point it's just one, giant, charlie foxtrot"
Small suggestion, when having Players flying, perhaps have a second carrier for them to launch from. They then have the limit of a carrier for them to have "lives".
They literally didn't know what hit them.
The RN did have armoured flight decks, indeed, a hit that would have caused an US carrier weeks in the dock back home would be more like 'fill this hole with cement, we'll be good to go come morning' in many cases.
There is method to the madness, however:
The RN would have their carriers operate within strike distance of land most of the time, they would be bombed … hence the need for armoured flight decks.
The USN would operate their carriers in the wide expanses of the Pacific, only reachable by CVs — and using the space and weight for more planes instead meant you stood on equal footing with Japanese CVs, instead of losing all planes and then be torpedoed to death — torpedoes famously rarely hit the flight deck to do damage …
Drachinifel has a video about that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dHdGHP8hCg
Turkey shoot … not really that interesting in the end. Like machine guns against phalanxes … from the rear.
Get well soon Cap.
GO GO GOOOO F/A 18 Super MURDER Hornet's.
26:15 That's actually a bug simulating reality by accident. Those CVs have wooden flight decks, not armored flight decks. A warhead the size of an AMRAAM would probably punch a hole in one, especially if it touched off a fully loaded dive-bomber setting up to launch. The results of that can sink a ship, if you get lucky enough; 1940s warships were wonderfully flammable as a rule, and carriers especially so.
As fun as this is, there is another anti ship weapons system that the AI seems to not be using: modern torpedos. Even the 1990s mk80s and mk50s would have ripped the IJN ships to pieces from a distance. Can this be included in another match up?
As many missiles as have been launched, I would call it an Itano Circus
A modern day final countdown
Are we EVER go8ng to get a zero in dcs….
Congrats GR for getting a lot of bugs out and making such a great battle.
Nah, this ain't a turkey shoot, this is a massive special needs kitten stomping.
Probably better to save ammo by using sm-6 to suppress air cover and immediately using anti-ship missiles. If you are stuck in the past you would want to preserve weapons.
Love watching the final countdown series … however in DCS, do the warbird dive bombers actually do dives?
would love to see a battle of midway series on DCS
Reminds me of The Final Countdown movie.
So you could add an anti-blocking player-controlled plane on each side in case you get a block on a carrier. Make them impossible to be targeted so they don't mess the game?
All that flak at 28 min in. 🤩
Does IFF not exist or not work with these modern missiles?
Imagine the Japanese reaction if the Americans (after destroying the Japanese fleet) just kept quiet and pretended that nothing had happened…
GR out here wasting taxpayer dollars!😂
You are not aggressive enough. The IJN is helpless here.
Your first sorties should be strike against carriers. 4 F-18 each with 4 GBU-24, 2 Aim-120 and center tank. 2 fighters as escort, just A-A load out.
Go high, go fast. Fly over the flak and fighters and ignore the Japanese air. (Probably have to use humans)
Sinking the carrier kills all the planes still on board. Those are your priority targets.
Launch your air to air sorties next. Japanese air is basically no threat to the CSG. No rush.
Next sortie are tankers and CAP to bring home your strike fighters.
Now you sanitize the airspace. Then you can defeat the Japanese fleet in detail at your leisure.
Now you can keep many more of those SM-6 and AIM-120 in the magazines. I guess the Japanese would only get to launch about 100 planes… maybe less.
The Final Countdown: 2022
this reminds me of the Light novel/Manga Japan Summoning (Nihon Shoukan) where they fought both world war 2 era tech level and medival fantasy era enemies…
This was exactly as expected, but Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack whilst this video had two Aircraft With A Circular Spinner (AWACS) already airborne and detecting. I think that the Japanese might have a smallest chance if just the ship radar was used until the first Japanese asset was detected, then scrambling the AWACS (from one of the airbases on Guam), along with the US aircraft.
The Japanese attack was completely destroyed, all ships and aircraft destroyed and nothing landed on pearl, lunch was not disturbed on a paradise island! No nuclear weapons development?✌️❤️🇬🇧
Ahhh we need the Final countdown remake. We got a new top gun, time for that remake!
Sorry you have tuberculosis Cap
I wonder what it would look like for the modern JSDF to launch an attack against WW2 Pearl Harbor, especially if the carriers that the Japanese were hoping were stationed in Pearl Harbor were actually there at the time.
this looks amazing, but i realise i probably have to dumb coding stuff to get this kinda scenario
Or also what happens when you send a 21st century Russian army after a Ukraine Army…or actually any Army the way things look now. : /