Recently, Mercedes has gotten a lot of press for achieving “L3 Autonomy” on actual highways–before Tesla! But what Mercedes has done is around 5 years behind what Tesla has already achieved, and is pretty much a joke. Why then is this puff piece for bragging rights actually more important to Tesla than Mercedes?
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if you are stupid, please feel free to believe the Germans. Benz is no exception. Tesla cars can do a heck a lot more than this garbage. Very pathetic. Used to be a Benz fan but during the last few years, no more.
This is ridiculous. This is like an eight year old kid driver. It’s like it was designed by someone who has never driven a vehicle on public roads.
I simply don't understand how MB find it a good idea to show this "product". It is so incredibly bad and show they are like a decade behind tesla. And remember all of this was in a completely controlled environment incl. All other cars on the road. With all those limitations, I would rather trust a random 12 year old to drive. All in all I would call this a great comedy.
What a joke!…TESLA rules!
Does Mercedes plan to upgrade this software over time? $10k for traffic jam assist, kinda steep. Is it like Tesla FSD where they are committing to constant improvements?
OK Karen!
I drove my Tesla today, in the sun, rain and snow falling and on the roads in FSD Beta. No problem for it what so ever.
Every time we hear video, video games, movies, emails, the video should add an asterix (* at 15 fps and one eye only).
with drones flying to map road, it is not going to be 1000 years to have HD mapping, it is much faster than thạt
Tesla direction is the way of the future. No mapped roads, works in almost any condition, and to be honest on HWY's it works fantastic. On city streets it always makes me a little nervous but when I just say screw it and let it do its thing it works pretty decent. Hoping like most V11 will bring some big changes. Gm's ultracruise is another system that Im interested to get a look at also which sounds like what MB is releasing but without the 40mph restriction
We built a car with Level 5 autonomy but you can only use it when the engine is off and the parking brake is engaged. Other than that it will completely do nothing all by itself!
So it’s shitty autopilot 😂
What a joke!
It's an inferior system that needs an incredible amount of driver engagement because it will disengage every 2 seconds.
Jeepers. This system is just embarrassing.
Thanks, I'm telling people the same for months. It think we need a different rating System for Autonomy. The levels are good to understand what you as driver have to do in situations, where it works, but we need a different metric to classify systems on in which situations they work.
One thing I would disagree on is, that "Tesla should claim to be level 3 in specific situations". Tesla is already criticized, that a human watching a machine doing the work gets bored much faster and so have much more problems to pay attention. But at least we can always say: "But you have to pay attention all the time." That should be clear to everyone that uses the FSD Beta. But if Tesla now introduces situations where you don't have to pay attention, that gets really complicated from a usability perspective. How do you know, whether you have to pay attention or not? How do you make sure, that people go back to paying attention while leaving the highway without scaring them, so they don't think they have to take over? Maybe there are even situations on the highway like emergency vehicles, where the driver has to pay attention, but maybe don't have to take over. So I think tesla should switch to level 3 for everything or nothing. And if they do that, it will actually be level 4 because the difference between level 3 and level 4 ist, that level 3 just works in specific situations while level 4 works in all situations except some very specific one. But as I said, that should be 2 different scales.
This is only very good if you are stuck in a traffic jam for more than 15 mins. Imagine if you stuck in a traffic jam for 5 hours and you can work for those 5 hours.
Out of date. Refers to happenings to happen by end of 2022.
This is wild. Elon could basically say "Anywhere they have L3, we can have L3 if you want. You just need to fix the regulations properly."
This is embarrassing. Wow …
I think we are missing some key points…among which: 1) Will the lead car be bundle in the price or the actual car❓ 2) Will Mercedes assume the salary and benefits or the lead car driver❓Who pays for the maintenance of the lead car❓Is the lead car an EV or an ICE car❓. ….just trying to visualize it…. In my view, this avertissement effort from Mercedes does smell like (poorly) organised b….s… And nothing esle❗️But that is just my opinion.
One word "gimik"
your conclusion is kind of fiction. as many of you know, tesla uses NN for their autopilot. Not sure about Mercedes, but I assume its old school "if then else". The latter can be understood by regulators, the former not.
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haha what a joke system
Tesla FSD is way more then Level 3. Mercedes set so many restrictions on their Level 3, what is this ???? Do you think you will be comfortable to drive Mercedes with level 3 autonomous which the software management system will keep disturbing you, this is so funny
Fact:
My new “2023 Tesla X Plaid” can do more than that now, period.
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I dont think shift between L2 to L3 is a technical barrier. You could easily enable robust L3 with a software update which lifts all the restrictions put in the software which forces the dirver to take over. The real problem is who is liable and responsible for accidents in a beta version versus the one which is fully approved. In other words- everyone is a gangsta as long as it is beta or if the parent company is not liable. On the other hand, here the company takes full responsiblity (legal and financial) for accident if it is in L3 – it is not just bragging rights. So the logical thing is to put restriction conditions to disable the system in an otherwise robust software to absolutely make sure no accident occurs when the system is active. And no – regulators are not dumb, they absolutely make sure the system is completely redundant with years of testing data by parent company before approving something like L3 – the testing phase generally takes disproportionately more time than developing the actual autonomous software if you want to get it approved and take full responsibility.
Tesla is a joke not Mercedes level 3. Tesla has no LIDAR. They are stuck at level 2 for the last 7 years and making no progress.
It's a joke!
Hole mars did a trip from Hollywood to San Francisco with 0 take over. 🤔 I question @Mecedes level 3
The eqs could do more but in germany the legal situation is different. As a car company you're fully responsible, if the car has a crash Mercedes Benz had to pay the bill. Therefore Mercedes chose not to do more with their car.
Too much talking. The original video is self descriptive and showing how ridiculous it is.
Definitely NOT “good news”! LOL! Tesla is horrible. Just horrible.