Matthew’s Infancy Narrative Is A well Crafted MYTH | Aaron Adair PhD
The Star of Bethlehem: A Skeptical View is an analysis of the astronomical portent found in the Gospel of Matthew which supposedly led the Magi from the East to the birthplace of Jesus. Throughout history, people have tried to connect the Star to real, naturalistic phenomena, as well as to explain it in other ways. Adair takes a thorough look at all of these explanatory attempts, using the tools of science and astronomy, and finds them fundamentally wanting. Take a trip through the heavens above with Adair as he critically explores many centuries of flawed hypotheses, looking to answer the question “Did the Star of Bethlehem really exist?” This book is at the conjunction of science and religion.
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It is myth no doubt
Like Islam is invented by Abbasids
I think you gotta shorten the signal music to just 5 seconds.
Jesus was God who came as a man for the salvation of man kind
You will notice Mathew also records 4 female gentiles in Jesus genealogy and 4 of them were claimed to have performed sexual sin . Adultery prostitution etc . . Mathew strays from Jewish tradition of recording lineage through the man in order to to point this out and also records gentiles .
It echoes when the sons of yhwh in genesis 6 who are elohim . Took human wives which is sexual sin . Elohim marrying human women. Because of the transgressions of the elohim . Yhwh gives the gentiles over to other gods . This is essentially saying Jesus will fix the divide of nations ( Babel ) he will forgive the transgressions of the gentile nations and unite them once more with Israel as it originally was before yhwh alloted Israel as his chosen people ..
Mathew is doing something really interesting
Edit btw
The gospel authors aren't liberal . They are doing what is normative in their time . This is status quo practice they aren't being inaccurate or deceitful . Literate Jews at the time would know exactly what they were doing .
Great interview.
Please consider adding Makkhali Goadala to discussions of this topic. He was an Indian ascetic teacher concurrent with the Buddha and the beginning of Jainism. His father was a holy man and he was born in a cowshed as his parents couldn’t find a more suitable place. Maybe a coincidence, but maybe also part of the trope or cultural conventions for spiritual teacher.
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Amen. Nearly everything in the Bible is literary, with theological and ethical implications. Much the same can be said of Homer or the Greek tragedy.
Btw I'm a conservative Christian and I do believe Mathew is participating in parallels . Just not with greek / Roman literature but with his old testament . But I see this differently . I see Mathew as learning about the life of Jesus and looking for parallels to Jesus life in the old testament using conventional.jewish interpretive practices . Not inventing fiction
I also don't think Mathew counted incorrectly . He did it on purpose . Ancient Jewish love to play with numbers and sets of numbers . In fact they didn't really care about chronology either
The virgin birth is so important to Christianity – because it proves Jesus divinity and his validity as a pure sacrifice for sins – that both Mark (the first gospel written) and John (the last gospel written) leave out the idea entirely. Neither gospel says anything about his birth, let alone his supposed miraculous birth.
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Matthew trying to force Jews to be Christian with retrospective prophecy making lol
Amazing literature just to put out there just because these may just be stories doesn't mean that faith isn't possible and a good thing.
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This podcast has made me appreciate Christianity so much more than I ever have. What a polysemous faith. Keep em coming!
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Great presentation.
I wonder how well this would go over in your average church.
I imagine that pointing out how this birth narrative is an obvious literary device made to foreshadow the end of the story might not end with a bunch of smiles.
But then again, I feel like most people wouldn't even notice so long as you didn't explicitly spell out what you were doing.
You could always call the foreshadowing "part of god's plan". But then that means that Jesus, and by the transitive property god, doesn't have free will! Gasp!
Myrrh absolutely isn't used in embalming nor do jews embalm 🤦♂️
Yeh all very shrewed of 'Mathew', still a very incoherened story. I heared nothing new here, except it is rather disappointing turn of dr. Ardair. There is no need to be so admiring. There is not much to admire. As literature it is lousy, as history an embarrisment, as religion nonsense as is all religion, as morality a failure for the most part.
Subtitles in spanish please!!!! 🙏🙏🙏
Jesus never existed.
You wish it was a myth.
The only myth is that it is a myth. Other than that it is true history. Keep trying but… it's good comedy..
You know I was reading something today that the biblical scholars said James(the brother of Jesus) was the oldest. If that was so how can these nuts think mary was a virgin?
Gods & Monsters…the film….also Frankenstein …the preoccupation with raising the dead…resurrection is the mirror of birth by spiritual penetration….
A 👉well👈 crafted myth? At that point we might as well be honest with ourselves that we all know it's true, this really happened and we are lost if we reject Jesus.
Definitely check out Dogma directed by Kevin Smith. if you don’t mind cuss words. It put a lot of believers on the track to atheism
Being a computer/science/astronomy/history/religions nerds, I really appreciate this kind of episode (as well as the ones with Dr Wathey). 1 1.
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I wish all skeptics would see this. I can't tell you how exhausting it is to regularly explain that the Gospel authors knew the context but used a special method of interpretation. So many refuse to believe this just because it's coming from a believer. This is a much-needed video.
Moses also had “false-divine” parentage per Exodus, in that he was raised in Pharaoh’s household and the Egyptians considered Pharaohs as gods, altho that doesn’t seem to be reflected in Exodus.
The real miracle was taking a 9 month pregnant woman on a road trip from Nazarene to Bethlehem… and she didn’t have a miscarriage.
How does this relate with the idea that Matthew was originally written in Hebrew? Makes much more sense now.
This was pretty great. A good review of Hebrew influences in the Christian mythology. But we need more of the Hellenistic stuff!
Please Dr. You need to create playlists on your channel, or most people will see just the physics and math videos and get scared away! XD
Jesus told the truth and they spin a narrative around it. Jesus said he was sent from the FATHER who is in the world above.
The morning star is Venus. Woman cloaked in stars is space, the black vastness where something comes from nothing. The virgin/maiden. Stars/light being the son of the father. God being the father seeding the the goddess/Mary/space with the son/sun.. follow the light
Great stuff. Love the Tardis.
Jesus is a god, like the pagan gods, but is like Gizmo and the gremlins as they are transmogrified to evil, demanding blood sacrifice and validating power structures, while Jesus is still good. He was born surrounded by animals because he's a nature deity who loves God's creatures. The star was his soul going to enter his body with the first breath, as souls do. The new testament corpus is daughter to the old testament corpus, thus like genetic structure, many memes and memeplexes from the old testament are reproduced but in different context, creating a new myth with different phenotype. The language of spiritualityism is highly metaphorical, like the tamarian language from the star trek episode Darmok. There could be introgression from pagan memeplexes also.
It's all true,it's all true,the bible says so.
I wonder why it’s 3 magi but 2 women…3 gentiles but 2 Jews…?
Doesn’t know xkcd!?!? Heretic!!
Theeeeeeeeeeee Ohio State University. Sorry I missed this live. Awesome discussion. Props on the literary critique. Nice fresh approach.
This is great
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