Man City 6 Man Utd 3: A Reality Check for Ten Hag



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Manchester United were snapped back to reality after today’s Manchester Derby, where Erling Haaland and Phil Foden got a hat-trick each to make it 6-3 to the Blues.

What went wrong for Erik ten Hag’s men?

JJ Bull explains.

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37 thoughts on “Man City 6 Man Utd 3: A Reality Check for Ten Hag”

  1. Pound Shop Pep has moved up many levels by going from the Dutch league to the PL. You can't just copy and paste your players and tactics. If he doesn't adapt his philosophy then he is clearly not as good as people thought he was.

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  2. The ‘Grealish is a flop’ narrative is a myth, the dude plays class every time I watch him but people seem to watch football with stats instead of their brains and slander him for not scoring loads of goals. That’s not his job in this City team.

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  3. I fail to understand why a 5 time Champions League winner Casemiro starts on the bench, but from where i sit that's not really as bad as the 2 centrebacks letting all balls into the box fly past them into the attacker.

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  4. Thought the most telling moment was Haalands assist for Foden's third goal. Got the ball, was able to turn and run all whilst there were 5 Man Utd players within 5 metres of Haaland. He then passes the ball, Foden scores. Are defenders already that scared of Haaland? Is he that type of player, who Carragher once said of Henry, that can get into the heads of players and cause them to think twice about what they'd do? Or is it also in part of Man Utd headless chicken approach to playing/defending?

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  5. The manager is a disaster, that's all. Eriksen is not a defensive midfileder, McTominay is… well… a very poor player, remember, Casemiro was in the bench, as was Ronlado. How is any MU forward better than Ronaldo? Furthermore, Antony is a trickster, not much else, Martinez is too short, these are average players, at best.

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  6. I saw the whole game. Man Utd players didnt take it seriously n there's no fight. They just going through the motion. Cant blame them. Not as if its a big important match. Its just an EPL derby. If it's an important match like pre season friendly tours, then you will see Man Utd fighting hard.

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  7. Ten Hag needs 5yrs and £500m neither of which he'll get. He's got 18mths to get Utd back into top 4 and stop these big beatings or he'll get the sack summer 2024. To be honest Utd's players will have downed tools long before then & gotten him the sack. Utd dominated for 20yrs and now have a generation of underachievement to deal with. Ten Hag isn't the answer and even if he was he won't get what he needs to change the direction of the club. Pochettino will be in charge sooner rather than later.

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  8. United are playing better than they have since Ole came and went.
    Had Ten Hag started Casemiro and maybe Fred too instead of McTominay & Bruno they wouldn't have lost by that big a margin.

    The latter are way below standard, don't let some goals fool you lot, Penandes is the definition of average in a good team. Till United fans can't swallow these kinds of facts, they'll always be in denial and hold their team back with unrealistic expectations.

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  9. So far ten Hag's "improved" team looks a lot like the honeymoon period Solksjaer enjoyed following his appointment. No radical changes, gameplan remains the same: to hit teams that use the high line by using the space between defenders and goalkeepers. Still no sign of United capable of breaking down a different kind of organisation, something they excelled at during Ferguson's time (they kept going at opposition defences regardless of the setup and eventually wore out opponents). Once you don't allow Martial, Rashford and Antony space to run into they don't really know what to do.

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  10. I attribute that to a lack of match sharpness, the passes were off.
    The ref killed the game in the first minute with a yellow card. United are 7 transfer windows to man city's level and 2 to reach Liverpool.

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  11. casemiro should be starting, i mean come on. one of the best cdm in the world.

    carlo cried when casemiro left because he was cruical for madrid.
    eth doesnt give 2 fucks about him.. so weird how perspective change very quickly between managers

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  12. Once again, our midfield is appalling against the best midfield in the league. Eriksen was brutally exposed for his lack of defensive awareness, Bruno running like a brainless idiot again and McTominay went back to default settings. McTominay and Bruno aren't good enough for the big clubs and never will. Did we honestly expect a decent performance and result against City?

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  13. It is weird to me that when Man United makes individual mistakes we see McTomminey out of position or doing stupid things, but when they got a solid game he isn't mentioned except for dropping down inbetween the center defendeers

    almost as if he shouldn't be a start player in the sitting midfield but rather a late-sub defensive piece

    How come Man UTD keeps playing Eriksson on Casemiros position? If he isn't wanted in Tottenham, but a starting piece in Man Utd, doesn't that means Man Utd is far below Tottenham?

    Another big issue I got with Man Utd's defense is that the only Leader they really got is Harry Maguirre and he is about as good as your average League 1 substitute. Who is "directing" the defense when Martinez and Varane play?

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  14. Find it crazy that Utd played an useless midfield trio in Bruno, Erikson, or McTominay – knowing full well that the only way to stop city is to man mark and track Bernardo, DeBruyne and Gundogan all over the pitch. This meant being fully aware that McTominay and Erikson will be dragged wide to follow Bernardo and DeBruyne when Foden and Grealish cut in, leaving an empty space in the middle for guys like Gundogan, Cancelo and Walker to exploit. If Bruno, Sancho and Anthony don’t defend like animals, Utd was going to get ripped apart whether or not they minimized individual errors. Surely ten Hag can’t be this naive?

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  15. I don’t feel JJ hates Man Utd. I just feel like he has to go through the trouble of dissecting all our mistakes and as an analysis of his caliber, seeing these mistakes must give him a migraine and the sarcasm of it all really gets to him 😂

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