MonteCristo and Thorin discuss week 1 of the LEC, Ibai and MAD KOI vs Yamato and Karmine Corp, whether MarkZ’s ideas can save the LCS, take stock of the LEC rosters, and more.
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Summoning Insight is the longest-running, most viewed League of Legends esports podcast in the world. Each week, hosts Christopher “MonteCristo” Mykles and Duncan “Thorin” Shields break down the most exciting matches from LEC, LCS, LCK, and LPL as well as interviewing professional players, coaches, casters, and journalists from around the world.
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0:00:00 – Intro
0:04:40 – LEC week 1 overview
0:11:06 – Yamato vs Ibai
0:21:23 – Travis interviews MarkZ + can the LCS be saved?
0:42:36 – Rigby dishes on KT and LS
0:57:51 – LEC analysis
2:06:17 – Discord Subscriber questions
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I was surprise they allow Koi to jump to another team. It feel so odd, but i guess Riot treat Ibai as a sponsor deal(???). So he really doesn't own anything. He just like those deal with "Shopify", "Honda" and one of those deals that changes the name of team. Just a sponsor slot that is there next to the name of the team for a highest price
We want to jest the crowd no f… Boeing casters we want crowd
How to fix the LCS (legacy european perspective)
Invest heavily in your collegiate scene. Make state divide as big as possible and have running stable servers for all states to use
Put clips and content from the collegiate scene on your main lcs broadcast
The winner of UCS (or whatever you call it) gets to host LCS playoff weekend the following split so local fans and players can attend. Then let the UCS winner play on that stage in a warm up game for the show.
All that builds hype for college and high schoolers locally for the game which is #1.
Then let that trickle into LCS by having franchised teams have a state base of operations. Sure they’re all based in California but if Flyquest had an association with MIT or something then they could cultivate an east coast fanbase. Stuff like this helps build loyal fanbase for teams rather than just players.
Renfield will only serve The Master.
The "Fuckin' hell" look on Thorin's face as Monte explains baked beans in America is peak content. Esports or otherwise
I don’t think it’s delusional to watch LCS and still hope for international success assuming you fully understand international success for the LCS is making it to quarters.
monte is 1000% right at 2:09:00 about baked beans, we Americans even psychologically cannot comprehend how baked beans can be used the way the english do hahah but i dislike baked beans,. ramen, and black pudding so im prob just a hater, though i did make a beef wellington the other day and loved it.
tip for mash potatoes: learn how to season properly, mash potatoes need a fuck ton more salt then you think (it is also why if you over season a stew or soup just stick a whole potato in and it will absorb the salt then just take it out)
Just wanted to comment on thooorins point on the draft timer — there's been interviews regarding old c9(2014 era) where bc lemonnation would have the notebook, and they had all pick ban decided (this was before on stage coaches). So they would instalock picks immediately, and enemy team would feel stress about only having 30 seconds to pick.
Nobody drafts this way anymore, I just wanted to mention that, in times past, having a "solved" draft was a contributor in c9 being able to punch up in international competition.
Tldr; not always the best decision to wait until last second to pick. Projecting confidence is a thing that has some amount of influence on the game.
Have you tried mount and blade bannerlord 2?
2:21:00 watch the recent david goggins interview, it is just do it and focus on the now and not the big stuff.
Humiliating as it is you must face the little stuff you didnt touch for years.
Im a LCS unicorn i suppose. Been around since the beginning. Im a huge C9 fan. Most of the rest of the league kinda sucks. I was a huge fan of Dash. I really enjoy LCS casters over other regions casters. But our storylines and orgs kinda suck.
I actually think TL is 1 of our worst orgs. Imo, they got really lucky getting DL and Impact and CoreJJ, just happened to have the money. But year after year TL is the place where talent goes to die. They either get a rookie and they do alright than pick up a bad rep or bad habits and thats the end of their career. Or they get some boomer veteran who ends up playing worse. The rare exception being Jensen, CoreJJ, Doublelift, and Impact, but if argue that if you put them on a org that actually is good at fostering talent, their careers would be even more insane.
Idk, the rest of the league just seems like they are there to coast? Idk…
Giving people a reason to support their teams would be massive. Maybe actually building storylines would be cool. Id love to see a east vs west thing. I think the emphasis on fan engagement is actually the most important thing. I can say the past 6 years ive felt the LCS players and broadcast team (except a few like Kobe), generally hated the fan base with a passion. Like, i get some fans can be toxic, but it felt like they hated all the fans as a result, and kinda treated us like pieces of shit for it.
When Thorin leaned into the camera and addressed "the same Rigby who left Evil Geniuses at the end of 2022?" I felt a shiver down my spine.
Now that's how you make a point.
Also that song was fantastic 😂
"Russian roulette with 5 bullets" is actually straight fire. Had me dying.
i understand you dont get it, i,m spanish and the amount of shit coming toward mad koi and ibai since the merge has been insane, apart from that, the Spanish and french always go after each other, in many occasions they go to far in my opinion,but this is in everything not just in sports, so this was not just a LEC game this was a full on Spain vs France thing. is like a USA vs Russia , doesnt matter the sport there is always the massive rivalry behind it bigger than whatever the sport they are playing.
i hope this help you understand the whole situation better
Fun fact, Richard the Lionheart probably could not speak English. In his entire life he had spent only about 6 months north of the channel.
Watch IWDominates analysis of the KC vs MDK, Upset Targ was losing lane and was even down a level when they should be stomping and winning lane. Alvaro and Supa actually did more than fine in lane. They should have lost so so so much harder. KC botlane playing like this means there's only BO with hands in this team.
Mad Lions Koi will win mininum one slpit. And Myrwn and Alvaro top 2 in his posistion
The fact tha Thorin didnt know about Total War Warhammer and Troy is hilarious to me. His responses to Monte were perfect on the subject too.
Atilla> upset bc he’s the only good vitality player and doesn’t play kda 🥺
What’s homeboys beef with Travis lol i always hear this man talking smack about him but never the other way around just a one way hate train lol
The leave Britney alone guy was right all along
Thorin gotta play some WH3, AFTER CA stops being dogshit
thoorins eleanor rigby 😂😂😂
On the talk about standing by your principles and Monte not bowing to riot, there's a quote that always strikes me. Delivered by none other than Keith Richards in Pirates of the Caribbean: "it's not just about living forever. The trick is living with yourself forever".
Lcs should have adopted a more WWE style of production from the beginning. Look at Smash bros scene and how much investment is in that.
Their obsession with trying to make it like real sports is what killed the league.
Just had to comment about how wrong thoorin is about the beans thing. Of course everyone knows about the sweet heinz beans in the can. That is all over America we just don’t put it on toast lmao. Refried is a American tex/mex and Mexican thing. What is he even on about. I love him though😂
LastFreeNation Gaming Channel coming soon?
Would love to see a series where Monte and Thorin play Total War Saga: Troy 1v1
Never heard of no baked beans for breakfast. I throughout the whole, certain foods for certain times of day, out the window ages ago. I just eat whatever sounds good at the time lol. However still gotta go with ramen over the toast.
Saken having a job this split is strictly from nepotism
Monte, since you like 4X games, have you played the dominions series? It's an amazing tiny indie 4X fantasy game where each faction is ruled by a powerful being vying to ascend to godhood. Very deep and fun game with a huge amount of gameplay variety.
19:02 😀
I'm pretty sure the blood is going to be one of the more harmless ingredients in most sausages^^
I was a big LCS fan but seeing us get blasted at every international tournament is just too demoralizing… the last time LCS had any hype around it was when C9 hired LS and potentially we would have seen fringe comps that might have put us at an advantage internationally (as it stands now we will NEVER be able to compete internationally) because we don't work as hard and we refuse to innovate new strats.. we handshake into the same playstyle as eastern teams just worse
A Nisqy buffed Bo would be insane…
Well Thorin, if we are gonna be very specific, William the Conqueror originates from Scandinavia and the country of France itself is named after the Frankish tribes that originate from the areas that are now The Netherlands and Belgium. So being super technical did France really take England? They don't really even win on that front.
Eleanor Rigby was a classic
`spanish people are bitches tbh.
always toxic and crying
my problem is watching the stream is i cant listen to this bullshit these casters are sprouting.
like we are morons
i really hope the fans see this and start get more creative with their chants
The Conversation about Youth engagement is interesting. One of the things that would help is gaining media training, with the rise of social media and streaming as a back up parents could see it as a good investment for their children to learn. Running Youth club events is another way to teach the game to different generations of potential viewers.