Klingon Warcrimes: Septimus 3 Q&A

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Today i Answer your questions on the Fall of Septimus 3 and the wider issues it raises: from the structure of the klingon defence forces, their relationship with their vassals, and the attitudes of their federation allies. we also compare the massacre of Septimus 3 to other actions in the dominion war that were previously overlooked.
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  7. So this is something that always bothered me about the self replicating mines. It has been shown in various ways throughout trek lore, Voyager specifically comes to mind, that replicators require a great deal of energy to function. So where the hell is all the energy coming from to allow a mine to both replicate itself while also still having enough energy on board to be an effective explosive device against something the size and durability of a starship? I suppose one could equip a mine with some kind of energy collecting equipment like an advanced solar panel and once enough energy had been harvested it could replicate itself. However, we see no such equipment on the mines deployed by the Defiant and even if it was there but just not activated, good luck collecting solar energy while cloaked. The only other solution I could come up with, and the one I prefer, is that the mines must be deployed with a built in energy surplus, perhaps an antimatter reserve which would allow the mines to replicate themselves. However, this would mean that the mines can only replicate a finite number of times before running out of this reserve. Therefore, fresh mines would need to be laid from time to time or periodic resupply of the existing mines' energy reserves would have to be done in order to maintain the mine field. I think this is a solution to the problem that adds a bit of realism to these mines while also creating interesting logistic issues that would need to be solved in order to use them as intended.

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  9. I suppose the safety factor of the self-replicating mines is they have to get their replicator mass from somewhere, presumably a lot of the same mass over and over when it gets blown up and reformed?

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  10. In my 'head canon', I always assumed that the power source for the self-replicating mines around the Bajoran wormhole was the wormhole itself. It must take a huge amount of energy to self-replicate, as E=mc^2 is still a thing in the future, and c is pretty damn fast, so you'd need something truly powerful nearby, such as a stable wormhole, to use as a power source to replicate stuff without a pre-existing source of matter. Rom must have figured out a clever way to draw energy from the wormhole to make them work.

    That's how I used physics and a bit of hand-waving to explain to myself why the entire Alpha quadrant was not filled to capacity with self-replicating mines by the end of the war.

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  18. I still think you're too hard on the "K ting uh's". With 24th century tech (including weapons and shields), and some ablative armor on the hull, I think that they could be formidable assault-ships; especially in groups. [and, if you survived their initial assault, they could 'wave goodbye to you' with their aft torpedo-launcher 😉]

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  21. I would love to see you cover ship production and logistics for the war. In this attrition warfare, both sides must be, somehow, pumping out a fleets worth of ships every month or two, and I'm not sure how that would even be accomplished. I'd also like to know a rough production time for many of the more "modern" ships, and whether Starfleet is actually producing more older ships or if they've really mothballed that many to make up for extreme losses during the war.

    EDIT: Also curious how the Cardassian ship production was improved from the start of the Cardassian-Klingon war, and whether Klingon ship production methodology changed during the war or if the existing House-based (as in, the Houses pay and work with the Shipwrights to create ships) impacted what the Klingons could field.

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  23. In all fairness, putting Marines on a ship is also a means of repealing boarding actions. Sure a ship's crew can do the job, but having men (and women) that are better trained to fight. That is a better security than the crew.

    Thus, on a Klingon Ship. Having the Marines placed between the Crew section and the Bridge also acts as a barrier to keep boarders from taking the Bridge. Being that teleporting onto the Bridge is dicy and not as common as people like to think.

    Keeping the Marines there to not only send some out to fan out removing the threat within the ship. Also, that narrow neck acts as a funnel and makes a hallway a killing box for the rest.

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  24. I do think they should've gone through with the idea of a shipyard that could rapidly build or repair or refit a ship as they'd encountered the tech in archers time – yes I know enterprise came after ds9

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  28. while you could say female klingon warriors are inspired from the night witches, you can't say they are inspired from soviet soldiers. They have little in common other than that they are soldiers. they have more in common with north European shield maidens or Scythians

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  30. Shipyard of the era DID employ Industrial Replicators. These could simply create out of raw energy various compartments, with all the furnishings and "electronics". But putting it together still takes some time. And some components require non-replicatable materials. Plus, if you have 10,000 sovereigns, and personnel to crew five, then you have 9995 targets that can be stolen. The most important component of a Starship takes (for Terrans) about 18-22 years to produce.

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  33. The thing with the self-replication, or mass-replication of ships is that apparently, there are still several things the Federation needs to mine traditionally. Dilithium appears to be a material that cannot be replicated with sufficient purity (I think it was never stated in the shows, only in the Tech-manuals that replicated Dilithium has a far shorter deterioration span and is generally less efficient in terms of power conversion). Other materials seem to be lithium (lithium mine on Rigel XII), Topaline (Capella IV), sulfur mines (mentioned is a moon of Jupiter) and of course Dilithium. There was some unknown mining operation on Quadra Sigma III, and the there are the mining companies such as Dytallix Mining Co., Galactic Mining Company, the Jupiter Mining Corporation, and the Tigan pergium mining business.
    So it's quite obvious that while a mass-replication of ships would work for basic skeletal hull parts where only the basics like Duranium, Tritatnium and Transparent Aluminium were needed, the Replicator could not mass-replicate certain parts, namely those that replied on processed mined materials. What precisely they were? Who knows. Certainly the warp-core assembly with the Dilithium crystal. Certainly some life-support systems where Topaline was a vital part…..

    And even if that were eventually surpassed; synthetic dilithium reached the potential of actual dilithium; synthetic topaline became a thing, etc., it would still be the question of actually crewing the ship. Granted, in "Message in a Bottle", we saw how two EMH programs were able to not only handle a ship under duress but even how they were able to retake that ship from enemy forces all commando/Died-Hard style. And keep in mind, they were not even programmed for that type of behaviour. They improvsied. So just imagine how holoprogram characters could perform if they were programmed for such tasks specifically, able to rely on the collective m,ilitary training from thousands of soldiers for dozens of species.
    Of course, this would raise a whole barrel of questions of sentienthood as we saw them in TNG "Measures of a Man" concerning Data and androidic lifeforms (by synthetic life in general) as well as Voy "Author, Author" with the EMHs (holographic characters) in particular..
    But there's the benefit of hindsight 20/20 now, look at Star Trek Picard and the synthetics massacre of Mars. Mass-replicate them entire fleets of ships and set them out to seek out new life and explore the galaxy – all fine and dandy.

    But it takes just one nifty Romulan hacker or one ruthless Changeling and suddenly the peaceful fleets turn on you. And their advanced AI-minds have developed plans and cintingencies for all your weaknesses faster than it takes me to write that sentence.

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  35. From what I understood Replicators still need a source of matter to replicate something. I never imagined that they created something out of nothing. If thats the case my respect for Start trek technology just went out the window, its just magic at that point.

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