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Someone has already probably commented, but the Orion/New Gods 4page scene and the “one year later” were added to the trade paperback (wasn’t in the original issues).
Waid ripped off Alan Moore's Twilight of the Super Heroes plot, and still managed to be underwhelming.
Batman is 100% based on Gregory Peck, per Ross’ notes. Mazzucchelli also based Year One Bruce Wayne on a young Gregory Peck.
I'm pretty sure Ross used Anton LaVey as the model for Kobra.
Old man Lobo lookin like current day Jake the Snake..
Bane at the bar is Atom Smasher
Also on same page believe that is Captain Boomerang instead of Mr. Mxyzptlk
Bruce is a little Vince McMahon in this. Ketchup on steak, working through injury, cutting promos in a walking wheelchair. Walking up behind Lex at the end "HEH HEH Shazam, PAL!"
Ross's Wonder Woman HC is currently at Ollies
31:50 – I've never realized this until now (and please, correct me if I'm wrong), but of course Oliver Queen is V. Lenin.
Jim, the Dick Grayson/Superman issue you mentioned was Legends of the DC Universe, not Secret Origins. And yes, it is so great
Great analysis!
My friend and his brother bought 5 pages of the original art from this. Even the absolute edition doesn’t capture the color and beauty of the original pages. For my birthday he gave me the Batwoman and ace character design sketch still love it!
This is one of the most beautiful pieces of art (as in its entirety) and if comics were given the presiteige of art pieces this would be amongst the greatest and most expensive pieces of art. It's sad you stated the story isn't up to par because if the story matched the art work that would be one hell of a story.
There is a good Alex Ross version of Mr Myx in “worlds funniest”
In reference to Ed’s comment about Ross’s use of Christian Iconography. The nuclear explosion in the final battle is shaped like a towering cross with Captain Marvel lighting death explosion occurring at the conjunction. The bottom end of the cross striking the battle and stopping the conflict. I bought this series when it came out and only now noticed it.
Some of my favorite Ross work is when he paints on top of the finished art of other cartoonists like Kirby and Perez.
Would that make him the world's greatest colorist?
1:06:40 Laibach, based on the singer of the industrial rock band…LAIBACH (from where Rammstein took much more than the industrial part of the music )!
So, commercial digital cameras had been available since 1990. It's perfectly reasonable that Ross, a professional artist, might have one and use one for reference photos in 1995/1996. By 1998 they were pretty much everywhere. And if you worked in the graphic arts you probably owned and used one.
Man, I remember back in 2013 Mark Waid bought a comic store near me in Muncie Indiana. I went there on their reopening and took my beat up copy of issue one of Kingdom Come I had since it hit the racks in my local shop. I could actually see the surprise when someone bought a beat up reader copy of an issue instead of a pristine collectors copy. I know shit went down with that whole comic store and that Waid might not be as squeaky clean as he presents himself, but damn if that isnt a memory that is going to live with my for the rest of my life.
I have a book somewhere that I can’t remember who put out or why, but it breaks down who everyone is in every panel and who they are based on if they’re famous. It’s at my moms house and if I get to find it, I’ll try to see if it’s still available. I hope it is!
As weird as it sounds.. the humanity given to Magog… and his obvious connection to cable… made me like cable a little more.. seeing that there could be more deep character moments built into him… rather than the mysterious violent future solider elements of him.
1:16:30
Alex Ross and Chris Ware have absolutely collaborated on a couple small projects.
Wizard ran a rather impressive annotation of select KC pages, noting easter eggs (eg. The Gulag was based on the Legion of Doom HQ, while the "UN" HQ was patterned after the Hall of Justice in Superfriends) and identifying characters (including the new heroes). I just forgot the issue number.
Love this video! ❤
Guys, you should do Alfredo Alcala’s MOTU – there’s some genuinely amazing artwork there in those mini comics!!
IIRC, "The Shadow" in the bar scene is Obsidian? Golden Age
Green Lantern's son?
If the transition to Apocalypse seems awkward, someone correct me if I'm misremembering, but I don't thing that sequence was in the original four issue prestige format series. It was added into the collected edition later? (as was the ending sequence at the superhero restaurant)
Interesting to note that Magog's team is comprised of Charlton characters… which is a nod to how Watchmen changed the game in the comics industry.
Tony Hawk is fine, broke his leg doing a trick. Came back and did the same trick just recently!
One of my favorite artist