“It's dogwhistle politics…” – Is the Southport murders case being politicised?



Conservative MP Kevin Hollinrake and former Labour Shadow Culture Secretary Thangam Debbonaire clash over Robert Jenrick’s response to the terror charge for the 18-year-old accused of murdering three young girls in Southport.

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37 thoughts on ““It's dogwhistle politics…” – Is the Southport murders case being politicised?”

  1. Thangam needs to look at the immigration status of those who have committed terrorist offences in the UK before dismissing links between fake asylum seekers and terrorism.

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  2. Linking migration to terrorism and to crime is just "noticing things."

    This lady may not like it, but it is the sad reality we now live in. Does she think "Allah Akhbar" is just someone shouting "Alright mate" in Cornish or something? Can she not see the disprortiatiely high number of certain crimes committed by certain (non indigenous) populations? Does she think that the disproportionately high number of foreigners in our prisoners is because our judiciary just loves throwing "Johnny Foreigner" into the clink?

    People like her need to be gagged, they're the enemy within.

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  3. Possession of ricin is not a crime in itself as it has medicinal and other uses, neither is downloading files in the public domain and clear criminal intent must be demonstrated if the accused is to face further charges, the drama queens claiming a cover up have not even had a look at the actual evidence which of course is still sub judice.

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  4. Quite frankly, its getting to the stage where I'm reluctant to take the football results at face value when they're broadcast by the BBC. The political editor trying to make the Tory leadership contenders' comments the story, and attacking the Tory MP! The BBC should be the ones asking why it has taken so long to announce these discoveries. Nobody believes that the police only just remembered that they needed to go search this guy's house. They must have had this information for the best part of 3 months. And what is wrong with that woman? – Of course people link terrorism to mass migration, same as grooming, same as sexual assaults, same as drug dealing, same as human trafficking, modern slavery, the collapse of the NHS, the collapse of the education system, the housing crisis, etc etc etc. I think they call it statistical analysis. And as for dog whistle politics – do me a favour. We don't need a dog whistle to know what's going on, like we don't need to be bloodhounds to smell a rat.

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  5. Who cares about 'facts' and crud…thats so 20th century. Lets just report as 'human ends other human' or even better 'organism terminates other organisms'

    Pattern recognition is like Hitler, man.

    Except when the miscreant fits the BBC definition of a wrong'un, then we'll have to dwell on every minutae, extrapolate & hypothesize to excess & demand laws are changed.

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  6. FFS, do the BBC really think the public are that stupid. This is a COVER UP!!!!!!! And they will tow the line as long as they are allowed by governments to steal from us the TV Licence tax, while they put out the governments properganda. STATE TV would be a more fitting name for this corrupt corporation

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  7. No, as a NeuroDiverse individual incorrectly diagnosed with Aspergers, I've travelled deep into the mindset and I'm not at all surprised at the terrorist facets. ASD has no idea of appropriate behaviour, and how the NeuroTypical community treats the NeuroDiverse is psychiatrically traumatising. Trauma responds in a fight-or-flight response (technically termed the Innate Alarm Response) which goes nowhere the cognitive mind (Lannius and others 2020) – it's entirely subconscious. This is why ASD individuals are behind so many school massacres in the US – they're responding to a trigger they have no control over. In this case, there's a close similarity to a Steven King horror story, Carrie, where evangelical fundamentalism in the family triggers an extreme reaction. I've never come across hyperpyro on the ground, but I can't rule it out as a form of telekinetic response – my own skills are diagnosed as hyperperception, a subclass of ESP. In this case, rather than burning the tormentors alive, he took a knife to those his subconscious typifies as a threat. That amygdala memory at the heart of he IAS is at best approximate, the literature is full of instances of Vietnam War vets waking to an explosion, a car backfiring, fireworks perhaps, and finding themselves back in a frontline dugout, belly-crawling under the wire to start killing the Vietkong. Only to discover he's slaughtered the neighbours.
    After a journey through the entire corpus, I realised I'm not ASD, but Giver-Gifted Everyday Genius. I have resolved my issues with the help of a Police therapist, and now know how to drain the traumatic reflex myself, if we missed anything.
    In legal terms, it's diminished responsibility as a mitigating factor.

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  8. Police were told what they could say or should not say. They just said so on this programme. If they were allowed to be more open to begin with there'd be no need for so called 'running commentry'. And how are we to know if mass migration is linked to crime or not, since these figures are suppressed by the govt. as well in the U.K?

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