Episode 9 of Checkmate, Lincolnites! Exploring the Lost Cause Myth’s origins in the post-war histories of the white South, and tracing the evolution of Civil War memory over the centuries. Meanwhile, your favorite dimension-straddling occult archaeologist emerges from the shadows to enact his most diabolical plan yet.
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~REFERENCES~
[1] James McPherson. For Cause and Comrades: Why Men Fought in the Civil War (1997). Oxford University Press, Page 19-20
[2] McPherson, Page 107-109
[3] Hugh McKee. The McKee Letters 1859-1880: Correspondence of a Georgia Farm Family During the Civil War and Reconstruction (2001). Boyd Publishing Company, Page 40
[4] Sam R. Watkins. Company Aytch: A Side Show of the Big Show (1985 Edition). Macmillan Publishing Company, Page 22
[5] Gary Gallagher & Alan T. Nolan. The Myth of the Lost Cause and Civil War History (2000). Indiana University Press, Page 13-15
[6] Alexander Stephens. A Constitutional View of the Late War Between the States (1868). The National Publishing Company, Appendix G
[7] Charles Reagan Wilson. Baptized in Blood: The Religion of the Lost Cause, 1865-1920 (2009 Edition). University of Georgia Press, Page 62-63
[8] Robert M. T. Hunter. “Southern Historical Society Papers” (January 1876), Vol. 1 No. 1
[9] Gallagher & Nolan, Page 38-40
[10] Gallagher & Nolan, Page 129-144
[11] Wilson, Page 82
[12] Wilson, Page 133
[13] Wilson, Page 24-33
[14] Gallagher & Nolan, Page 89-103
[15] Wilson, Page 125, 141-143
[16] Gallagher & Nolan, Page 28
~Guest Starring~
Chud . . . Karl Kasarda
The Mummy of Jefferson Davis . . . Matthew Rigdon
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I always found it funny how all of them cried about the Robert E Lee statue being removed when he himself said making Confederate war monuments shouldn't happen because it would “keep open the sores of war.”
If they like him so much maybe they should respect his wishes at least on his own statue.
He did support efforts by Ladies Memorial Associations to mark the graves of Confederate casualties and I'm okay with that because it's more history, less Idolization.
Confederate legislators: We're leaving to preserve slavery.
Confederate Vice President: Slavery is the cornerstone of the Confederacy.
Confederate Constitution: You can never alter this to banish the institution of slavery or repeal the Fugitive Slave Act.
Confederate soldiers: We're fighting to defend slavery.
Lost Cause: This had nothing to do with slavery!
The war was not about race until the emancipation proclamation. Lincoln overturned early attempts at manumisson by generals
In middle school I learned that the Civil War was about states rights…to own slaves. Even with TX writing our textbooks, they managed to get us together in CA.
Is okay to have horrible ancestors, as long as you don't follow in their footsteps or try to deny their actions. Focus on making sure YOU are a good human being to everyone.
29:53
This sounds like a married couple arguing
I was in school in the 1960s, and there was never any doubt in our education that the war was fought over slavery. The first time I heard that it was not about slavery was in the mid-1990s, after I relocated to the Deep South. One reading of the declarations of secession of the various states (to say nothing of Stephens' Cornerstone Speech) is enough to leave rational people speechless.
I love this. I always believe that in order to argue effectively, one must learn to argue the opposing point.
The only point I'll cede is that overreach of federal government, or its negligence, or lack of option for 'peaceful' 'revolution' was a non-zero part of the issue that made violent revolution inevitable. It was negligent in upholding laws that would have actively forced slaves to be returned to their owners, but it was still a very, very tiny lesser of two evils, of which slavery was a very, very big evil. Had it been over nearly anything else, like the simple act of secession (which several states had been considered for some years before the war broke out, even if there was no legal process allowing or preventing it) there might have actually been an argument over whether or not tyrannical ends justified the means, but in this case the ends absolutely justified the means.
Honestly, you don't even have to tear the Confederates or their people down as the worst of the worst, just admit that what they thought was right was actually morally abhorrent, and give them the credit of being willing to not only fight for what they thought was right (but was wrong) but also working to preserve what they thought was right (wrong) in the face of resounding defeat. Were it somehow the Union that was brought to heel, preserving the idea of equality among man would be seen by people with our morals as an incredibly noble subversion against… well, southern aggression.
Getting the right information about the Civil War is a challenge when you're surrounded by the romance of the Antebellum South. I grew up near Appomattox Virginia and grandma was very clear about who were the bad guys in the War of Northern Aggression. In college I often walked Monument avenue in Richmond admiring the artwork of the statues of Confederate generals. I knew my great grandmother who was married to a civil war veteran and had 7 kids. My grandfather being the youngest born in 19908. Great grandad's war record showed he deserted 3 times to raid his own farm when he was starving. Since he knew where all the food would be hidden he stole enough from his family to bribe himself out of being shot. After the war his pissed off family had him committed to Staunton's insane asylum so his wife could honorably divorce him. I didn't truly comprehend the horrors of slavery's physical abusiveness growing up, but the cruelty of slavery finally sunk in when I learned selling slave children was common like any livestock business. Inside a chestnut log shed behind my uncle's house there are iron rings to hold slave chains for punishment and rape. I try to correct myths running around today such as slaves were better off here than in the African villages they were stolen from. My best comeback to a racist relative saying white men ought to screw the blacks white was that many white women were doing that job marrying Blacks in his community. He didn't like that at all. Here's a quote you can answer for yourself: Yankees like the Black Race and are scared of individual Blacks. Southerners are often on good terms with individual African Americans, but hate the race. I'm so glad the southern rebellion failed for many reasons and would have expected a surviving Confederacy to have sided with the Nazis during WW II. The neo-confederates are certainly embedded with the neo-Nazis of today. Our ignorance and lack of compassion for our fellow man of any race worries me now more than ever.
Just want to thank you for your very refreshing walk through Civil War historiography. Putting the present day events into a long context is something that is almost never done, and I was really struck by it. Also would just like to say that the filmmaking and vision for videos just keeps getting better and better the longer I watch. Love your videos, and will continue to support!
After viewing this, history repeats itself with the republican evangelist q anon people…. 😅
My dad and stepmom, who were both raised Deep South in the 60’s, both derided my education and understanding of history when I said the South seceded mostly for slavery, so why honor “history” like that? I was taken aback as I was educated in schools in the South THEY SENT ME TO, and they are moderately progressive. Lost Cause really got hold of them! My dad has since stated he’s found most Confederate monuments were put up in the 60’s, so he must have done some digging to prove me wrong and got some surprising results. It’s growth!
Why did Maryland have slaves and fight for the union? maybe the ultimate higher ups wanted slavery but the average soldier didn’t give a shit. Robert E Lee himself didn’t like slavery and gave away the slaves that were inherited to him. So no the civil war wasn’t fought by the soldier for slavery. It’s like saying the war in Iraq was for oil. Maybe that was the government’s idea but no the soldier who is fighting because they want to kill terrorists
I did not expect the evil dead
This man pretendin to be a Yankee but that haircut don't lie.
29:51 Atun-shei reveals the attitude he uses while arguing in the comments
30:38
The answer is yes.
Debate doesn't work when objective truth is dead
Im pretty sure there were Rebels who were defending their homelands. You make it seem like every single rebel was fighting to keep slavery by putting in cherry-picked examples of rebels defending slavery. It doesn’t take a genius to find sources that back up your argument, and that means I can also find sources that portray the confederacy in a better light
It's a great skit, but I can't get over the chess board being set up improperly in the background…
I'm still on board with the gay frog guy
I always find it hilarious when people conflate American White Supremacy with MAGA populist-republicanism or Nazism, and feel awful when people don't get it. Stonewall Jackson was descended from an Irish/English couple, and Jefferson Davis was Welsh-descended; neither would be considered properly Aryan, and MAGA Americans really don't care about what Germany does besides whether or not they pay NATO and get off of Russian energy imports.
“stonewall jackson’s arm” i’m in tears 😂😂😂
The reb should be holding miller light, not some girly white claw
ORDER ORDER ORDER OR IN THE SOUTHERN COURT!!!!