Hydrogen Semi Truck Full Tour! Nikola Tre FCEV Deep Dive – Battery Integration w/ Hydrogen Explained



Kyle and the team met up with Nikola at the Los Angeles motor show and went on a full tour of the Hyrdogen Tre! The team has already ridden in their battery-electric truck and now it’s time to experience the Hydrogen which has some advantages and disadvantages to BEV, which we explain in this video.

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0:00 – Hello & Welcome
2:19 – Cabover In The US
4:36 – Class 8 FCEV Deep Dive
27:47 – Powertrain / Under The Cab
37:47 – First Ride!
42:27 – Launch / Burnout
43:16 – Final Thoughts

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50 thoughts on “Hydrogen Semi Truck Full Tour! Nikola Tre FCEV Deep Dive – Battery Integration w/ Hydrogen Explained”

  1. Looks like a well made and competent truck for sure, but I'm not sold on hydrogen yet. Even if just for large class trucks. I think what the guys at Edison motors have with their diesel hybrid is the best interim solution until better technologies and infrastructure become available. Yeah, they still burn diesel, but quite a bit less and can burn as clean as possible all the time since the generator continuously runs at peak efficiency.
    BEV and/or hydrogen hybrid might work for those strictly metro routes.

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  2. The biggest issue I still have with hydrogen is the enormous cost needed to switch. It’s taken years to build the diesel network and it will take years to switch fuels. EV requires less infrastructure if you take replenishment into account. If it’s made on site it would requires more money time and manpower

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  3. Thought these people went bankrupt after the scandals and dried up funding. Have to continue to ask why hydrogen? It adds a layer of technology to an EV and, as we all know there is really no infrastructure in place for this across the U.S…and the process for making hydrogen is costly, using fossil fuels or pure electricity to produce. Why add this layer to a means of transit when you eliminate all of this with a pure EV.

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  4. Great video, i wonder why they didn't decide to have a supercapcitor module for high regen or for heavy power demands to even out the demand on the battery. It might make the battery last a bit longer, and would allow for more regen energy to be captured and used. But i do realise that it would add weight and complexity and remove payload capacity.

    And i remeber the London Routemaster replacement bus that James May drove in his Top Gear days, had a Lithium Titatate Battery as part of its Hybrid system, its a heavier with less capacity compared to NCM/NCA and LFP but is overall the safest lithium battery tech i've seen. With the advantage of tens of thousands of cycle life and can be charged with massive C rates and not really care. So saying that. I wonder if theyll go to LTO, as i would worry about NCM/NCA being anywhere near hydrogen.

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  5. Great video! Glad that there is options for the businesses. And we will see if hydrogen trucks can survive. The biggest hurdle is the total cost of ownership for the company using hydrogen vehicles.

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  6. Can someone explain to me who is going to buy a hydrogen truck that costs 3 times as much to purchase and 5 times as much to fuel as the current diesel trucks? All the pro hydrogen people keep tap dancing around this pretending that actual people or companies are going to be willing to increase their fuel budget by 500% while increasing their acquisition costs by 300% over diesel. If it is competing against an EV the cost for fuel is 14 times higher than filling up an EV semi.

    A quick comparison on how ridiculous hydrogen is.

    This is how much it would cost in fuel to go 1,000 miles in each semi:

    Hydrogen: $4,545

    Diesel: $894

    EV: $324

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  7. Oxygen entering the fuel cell through the air intake system combines with hydrogen to form water, so 70 kg of hydrogen can produce 630 kg of water. What type of exhaust system does this truck have with that much water? I think the water needs to be drained constantly so as not to reduce the payload. What about road safety? Otherwise, the water will have to evaporate.

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  8. Iirc, the german city of Darmstadt sold all its hydrogen busses because it was a terrible solution. I hope they went all electric instead, and electric busses are everywhere here. The same will be true for heavy trucking.

    20minutes to fill up a tank, is 20minutes of working time less for the driver. Plugging in is seconds, and the rest is resting time.

    Then, wasting energy in resistors shows a fundamental flaw in the design. A bigger battery is needed, which then makes the hydrogen infrastructure less economical, and a proper big battery would be cheaper.

    Finally, 700bar infrastructure for hydrogen is needed. Good luck finding 300bar hydrogen fueling stations today, 700bar will have to be built out separately, and will never happen.

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  9. Thanks for the very informative video, Kyle. But really! The mechanical engineering in that thing looks as complicated as a nuclear submarine. Not to be a Tesla FanBoy but I gotta think the industry will much prefer the Tesla Semi simplicity over any advantages the Nikola Hydrogen brings to the table.

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  10. 500 miles? Disappointing that all the additional complexity of a hydrogen fuelled generator on top of a battery electric doesn't exceed the Tesla Semi. If they try to sell these at the same price as Tesla, they will very likely have much smaller margin :
    The cabin is really nice, but you don't need a sleeper cab for something that can only drive for 1 day.
    On a more positive note, it would be really great to have Telsa and Nikola take over from the diesel Class 8 market and then literally the biggest vehicles on roads will be Nikola Tesla.

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