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Galadriel! A character who has been one of debate since The Rings of Power, so today we take a look at just how powerful the true Galadriel is!

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02:42 – Galadriel the Warrior Princess
04:20 – Galadriel’s Earlier Years
06:56 – Galadriel’s Choices
09:33 – Galadriel’s Age and Beauty
11:30 – Galadriel’s Greatest Achievement
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47 thoughts on “How Powerful Is GALADRIEL? | Middle-Earth Lore”

  2. Where I have no problem with the concept of Galadriel being able to use weapons and armour, after spending centuries in Doriath under the tutelage of Melian during the first age, I do not believe that she needed such. After all, when Celeborn lead the host of Lorien in the assault on Dol Guldur, it was Galadriel who came forth to throw down the wall and lay bare its pits, and that was not done using physical weapons. Also, from how I read this part of the book, this was after the One Ring had been destroyed, and therefore all the other rings, including Nenya, had lost their power, which implies that the destruction of Dol Guldur was by Galadriel's own power.

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  3. Galadriel used to work out at the same gym I go to, so I feel like I can shed some light on this question. I used to see her warming up on bench press with 600+ pounds. 1000+ on squat and deadlift too. It was pretty impressive. Amazing cardio as well. Hopefully when I'm 8000 years old, I'll still be able to lift half as much as her.

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  5. Could you make a video or address here Galadriel’s battle against Sauron in the Battle of the five armies ,whether it would have been possible within Tolkien’s lore and where she stands compared to Sauron at the time of the LOTR? Very interested to hear your thoughts on that subject!

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  8. she is definitely among the greatest who ever lived but there are so many ways to define greatness that picking 1 would be almost impossible without definition of the greatness and that would definitely deprive many who should be counted as great I think that she should be counted amongst the great, as for the 3rd age She is among the top 4 ,being ciridan the ship wright the oldest in middle earth glorfindal and elron

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  9. This wasn’t my biggest issue with RoP Galadriel. The fact that she was bouncing around with Sauron completely oblivious to his true nature, and her genocidal disposition towards the Orcs made her out to be a cruel and impercetive bitch

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  11. oh fucking hell, 10 seconds in and youtube decides to throw 2 commercials in. thankfully they were only 25 seconds in total. oh god no, not an ai art sponsor. no no no, please no more ai sponsors.

    and as always, your videos are amazing. though i would disagree with the "she was no xena warrior princess", and posit more along the lines that we just do not have enough info on her to say one way or another.

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  16. I would imagine that in her youth, Galadriel did use a sword, but eventually grew out of it. The problem is that she was never a character we mortals could relate to and the events of the Second Age covered so many years that her story was not one that could be turned into a TV series.

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  17. For me Cate Blanchett played Galadriel so perfectly, as I imagined her to be in the books, that I cannot imagine anyone else ever in her role. She didn't need to do anything to play up her strength (a major failing of ROP 🙄 running around sword fighting etc) it was in the way she carried herself. She glowed with an otherworldly luminous beauty, but I could also feel her strength and power emanating… I remember being worried when Cate was first cast in the role, then seeing her completely inhabit Galadriel was extraordinary. I think it helped Cate being classically trained.. Peter Jackson may have gotten a few things incorrect and left some favourite characters out but it is plain as day the love dedication and passion he and his team had for Tolkiens world.
    Rings of power is an abomination.
    I'm a new subscriber and enjoying your channel very much.

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  22. Oh absolutely, Galadriel is the greatest full-blooded elf. She seems to have reverse-engineered one of Fëanor's greatest works, and copied the other: but frankly she did a better job. They both have an off switch. Ain't nobody going to be stealing a vial of water lol. It wouldn't be fair to compare her to Peredhil though.
    I don´t understand the knee-jerk reaction against the idea that Galadriel at some point swung a sword. In fact, I prefer the idea that she did. It makes for a nice parallel with Eowyn: connecting the heroine of the Third Age, with the heroine of the First. It's called character growth. She started off as a headstrong young woman with a chip on her shoulder, who thought the way to get things done was shout a lot and swing a sword. Then she met a gentle man and a wise queen, and she learned that there are better ways of accomplishing your goals (not that it's wrong for women to swing swords, that isn't the lesson here: see Emeldir and Haleth, and that thing Faramir says about what he fights for). Perfectly good plotline, and I don't see any problem with it being used twice. In fact, it is usually better when writers use plotlines twice with subtle variations. That has a tendency to enhance both characters and it's one of the reasons Tolkien's characters are so good despite some of them not getting very much "screentime" (i.e. not a lot to do or say, not a lot of description, or not being the focus of a scene). When you have two equally canonical versions, I see little reason not to go with the one that makes the story and characters more interesting.

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  26. A swordfighting Galadriel as a warrior in armour is not the main issue people have with her in the RoP. It's her petulance, arrogance, rude bluntness, impatience, callousness, footstomping childishness and outright stupidity that I personally take issue with (alongside the atrocious writing that pretends she is none of these things). I don't think I'm alone in this. Why not make a completely original character if all you're going to use from the existing one is the name? That's the main issue a lot of people have, not that she's swordfighting.

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  28. Everything is spot on except the bit concerning Galadriel's own power. After the one ring was destroyed, the power of the three elven rings faded (including Galadriel's ring Nenya). Yet even without Nenya's power she went to Dol Guldur and tore down its walls and laid bare its pits. Tolkien used those exact words before in the published Silmarillion when Luthien (who had no magic rings of her own) destroyed and cleansed first age Minas Tirith. Both Luthien & Galadriel were mentored by Melian, one of the mightiest maia who walked Middle-earth. Tolkien doesnt really explain the laws of magic in his writings, but the parallels between the two is clear

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  33. I have no issue with Galadriel wearing armour and using weapons. As a Noldorin princess and survivor of First Age Beleriand, I would find it hard to believe she would not know how to fight as needed. 'Rings of Power' turning her into a petulant teenager – THAT was the problem!

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  35. When you took into consideration her entire backstory, it makes that scene with the Ring all the more important – it promised her all the things she wished for thousands of years. Everything. At her fingertips, ready for picking. All of her wishes.

    And she refuses like an absolute chad.

    Also, regarding her character in the Rings of Power. Many people point out that warrior woman Galadriel makes no sense. I'd argue – her name is, among others, is Artanis: Man-Maiden. More than once Tolkien notes that she possesses large stature for an elven woman. It is known she was fiercer in her youth, and I'd say it is quite possible she at least knew how to fight even if she never fought. Though I've heard of an idea that she took part in fighting at Alqualonde sword in hand, and not on Feanor's side, obviously.

    Other thing – as far as I get it, strength and prowess of an individual elf relies less on elf's body and more on elf's spirit. They are much more than mere flesh, after all. So, elves won't have the usual IRL barrier for any woman-at-arms, specifically the major differences in physiology between two sexes. Or at least they would suffer less, I think.

    So, the fact of her being a warrioress doesn't mean much. Few, if any, complained about sword-wealding Arwen in LoTR or the fact that Tauriel is a warrior woman in Hobbit. I mean, people complained a lot about her, but not about her being a warrior.

    The issue with her in RoP is that her character is built with all the grace of a pile of bricks: coarse, primitive and hardly interesting. When sword-fighting and yelling at people are the only qualities of note your character has, you are doing it wrong.

    Sword-figthing alone? Would've probably looked weird anyway, considering it goes against her established image and that the very idea of her wielding a sword relies on borderline speculations. But I won't actually mind Galadriel with a sword, neither I think people would mind, if it'd be done properly. Unusual takes aren't bad takes by the virtue of being unusual.

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  36. 3:02 No. Wrong. It’s not the armor. It’s her personality in the armor, and the bad “strong” it represents. I know it’s difficult to listen to folks who say things and think things you disagree with but you are dead wrong about the criticism that is leveled here. If she’s compared to Xena it’s because that archetype represents an argumentative petulance baked into the character. Where as the strength of that character is not argumentative or petulant aspect is not what we see of her otherwise. Change that, and you ruin the theme.

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  37. 1). The First Age begins when the Elves awake at Cuivienen. Galadriel was born in the First Age not before it.
    2). The "Amazon disposition" (Letter 248) is related to her taking part in athletic activities, not war ("She was then of Amazon disposition and bound up her hair as a crown when taking part in athletic feats.).
    3). The first Kinslaying, Tolkien notes in Laws and Customs of the Eldar that elf-women will fight in defence ("in dire straits or desperate defence, the nissi fought valiantly"); however, he also states that elf-women abstain from war ("the virtue of the nissi in this matter was due rather to their abstaining from hunting or war").
    4). CT does not suggest that Galadriel may have aided Elwing's escape to the Havens of Sirion, or been at the Ruin of Doriath he says: "It is a natural assumption that Celeborn and Galadriel were present at the ruin of Doriath (it is said in one place that Celeborn ‘escaped the sack of Doriath’), and perhaps aided the escape of Elwing to the Havens of Sirion with the Silmaril – but this is nowhere stated."
    He notes that this "assumption" i(assumed by who?) s nowhere written. In fact, this assumption is contradicted by Galadriel herself: "for ere the fall of Nargothrond or Gondolin I passed over the mountains" (LotR, Mirror). Galadriel had fled Beleriand before the ruin of Doriath which took place after the fall of Nargothrond.
    5). It is not said in Unfinished Tales that Galadriel participated in the fight for Erergion. In Unfinished Tales, Galadriel is in Lorien when the War of Elves and Sauron happened, and it is Celeborn and Amroth who participate in the War.
    6). Galadriel did not lead her warriors against Dol Guldur. Tolkien says Celeborn led the army and took Dol Guldur, Galadriel destroyed it after that ("Celeborn came forth and led the host of Lórien over Anduin in many boats. They took Dol Guldur, and Galadriel threw down its walls and laid bare its pits, and the forest was cleansed." App. B) Also, after the destruction of the One Ring, the other Rings lost their power, so Nenya did not aid in Galadriel tearing down Dol Guldur.

    And in answer to your question, Luthien was the greatest of the Eldar.

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  40. To decide whether or not Galadriel is "the greatest" elf all depends on how you define greatness.

    In feats of making and crafting, she is surpassed by Feänor, obviously, and probably by Celebrimbor and all of the Gwaith-i-Mirdain of Eregion.

    In feats of arms, she is surpassed by both of her uncles, Feänor and Fingolfin; and perhaps by some of her cousins, too. Tolkien never really shows us how she would fare in battle.

    In wisdom, she seems to be unequalled by any among the Noldor or Sindar. But, surely, there will be some among the Vanyar by whom she will be surpassed. At lesst some of those who live among the Valar must have acquired a greater knowledge of, and insight into, the Music of the Ainur and, hence, of the mind of Iluvatar, than those who did not.

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  45. And then the Amazon crafters did spawn the "Rings of Power". Lacking knowledge of the craft of ring making, they forged an inferior, corrupted version of the Lady – unworthy of the name Galadriel. So taken by greed, those who lacked creativity could only corrupt what had gone before into a mockery that reflected their own weak tainted souls.

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  46. I'd like a more in-depth look at the magic of Tolkiens' Elves, particulary the Elves that lived with the Valar. It seems to be often overlooked that many of them if not most, besides forging and wielding magical weapons, had abilities far beyond the physical, Galadriel included. There are many, many examples, and there is a reason these folk could sometimes contend with the power of gods on some level.

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