Professor David Cebon has authored or co-authored more than
200 peer-reviewed papers on dynamic loads of heavy vehicles,
road and bridge response and damage, asphalt micromechanics,
weigh-in-motion, advanced suspension design, safety, productivity
and energy consumption. In this episode, he hones in on Hydrogen
and sets straight a few myths about its uses and cleanliness.
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Robert that was a brilliant interview, I learnt so much about hydrogen and what to use it for, when I heard he was on a hydrogen committee then I thought he would say use hydrogen for everything but it was the reverse
very interesting, thanks.
Absolutely eye opening on this subject, thanks so much for your information in easy to understand language!!!!!
Japan this week was pushing for a project to replace ALL fuel with hydrogen, this would be done, by using small modular nuclear power plants and the way to cool them would split water and the hydrogen would be a by-product ie free and then the hydrogen can be used to replace all fuels with all new cars being hydrogen fuel cells… looking up who was behind the project and funding research and funding the universities behind the report… it was the who who of the oil and gas industry
No wonder Japan start shifting topic to Ammonia from hydrogen.
Brilliant demistifying of the colour of hydrogen and how it doesn't matter which way you colour it in it it's just worse outside of specific industries that need it. Really highlights that the reason the government is presently so smitten by it is that it bolsters their friends and their own investments in the fossil fuel space.
Just as with "clean burning" natural gas, it's not the burning that's the problem. The process of OBTAINING gas OR hydrogen is the problem!
The best of several fully charged episodes on the "place of hydrogen in our world". I need to distil the information but it is all there.
I need to share this with everyone who blurts out HYDROGEN.
What an extraordinary informative discussion that was. This needs to be understood on such a wide scale. The thing that I just don't understand is why, when experts like Prof Cebon can outline so clearly why using hydrogen in personal transport is such a non starter, why companies such as Toyota spent so many years and burned so much money trying to push something that was never going to work. Wouldn't it have been more cost effective for Toyota to get this guy in 10 years ago for a couple of days.
Best podcast so far.
Professor David Cedon, how energy efficient are fuels made from carbon capture technologies, like those used by Lanza Tech in this video? , https://youtu.be/kQq219XwVMU
BRILLIANT discussion. I've heard loads of 'bits' regarding why Hydrogen is NOT the way forwards for Transportation and more. But this discussion puts all the bits together into an excellent & concise presentation. I can now go out into the world, better 'armed' against the FUD…
NASA has had problems with hydrogen. In a typical Elon remark he mentioned that he had looked at hydrogen powered rockets but very quickly realised that it was not a good fuel and hence switched to methane. If only NASA had asked him he could have saved themselves a lot of time and trouble.
A lot of Elon's throw away remarks are very good advice for free!
Great podcast. Inspirational. Knowledge and common sense always win the day.
Get Michael Liebreich on to talk hydrogen.
What an amazing and clear explanation, based in science. Thank you for explaining that based on facts.
We need to keep repeating this info.
I tell this always to all those H2 Fanboys.
It could only be somewhat helpful as green H2 for certain chemical process that's worse off in its current process.
Very informational and positive, that helps relativise the average Internet news articles about the topics addressed here.
What an excellent discussion, a rational and coherent, fact supported way forward. Be realistic about the low hanging fruit, the difficult and the damned difficult stuff. Let us not be deluded here, the change to low emission transport is entirely limited by government policy.
Norway has shown what is possible.
As a railway rolling stock engineer I demonstrated to DfT the feasibility of hybrid battery/mains electric trains, in 2012, they did a proof of concept but have since NOT progressed in any meaningful way. Replacement of ALL Diesel Multiple Units with hybrid battery/mains could have been done a few years ago, shame nobody bothered.
Well that pretty much puts an end to that thread. Dear World: please can we concentrate on the stuff that matters now.
Wow! Clarified a lot doubts about hydrogen, I knew it wasn't that good of an alternative as of now and that it was mostly being pushed by the fossil fuel industry, but could be an alternative in the future as the energy sources get cleaner and technology improves, especially for heavy duty stuff, don't see that now happening with that big of a trade off between kWh spent and kWh generated plus the aftermath emissions of dealing with hydrogen
Great episode!!
You were right, this was an amazing interview. The influence from the powerful fossil fuel industry is clearly what's driving this crazy Hydrogen push. And what he said about leaving the shipping and aircraft industry until last makes so much sense.
In my mind I find it hard to associate hydrogen as being an environmentally friendly power source. This mainly comes from the knowledge of how much energy is needed to seperate hydrogen from water. This means that in most cases the energy needed will come from burning fossil fuels. Before I would be ready to regard hydrogen as being environmentally freindly we would need to have to environmentally friendly sources of electricity such as solar and wind. Blue hydrogen is nothing more than a con and the claims of plants recovering their waste carbon dioxide has been proven to be false after studies on plants in Canada.
I'd mostly agree with his conclusions, but seems to me his analysis of a fuel cell is highly misleading. When you electrolyze water, you're not converting the energy into "heat", you're converting it into chemical energy. And a fuel cell is not a heat engine, so it doesn't have the same upper limit on efficiency as a heat (combustion) engine. In fact, the electrolysis/fuel cell cycle is more like a battery, albeit a relatively inefficient one, converting electricity into stored chemical energy and then directly back into electricity. Other sources say the theoretical upper limit on hydrogen fuel cell efficiency is 83%, and for those in use currently it's about 60%, not 50%.
Eye opener. 👏
What a very interesting chat that was, not a lecture, thanks. So I have saved this episode for a few days because I thought it would be very difficult to listen too.
So as I got up at 04.30 and started to watch this episode on how Hydroelectric power and I’m so awake now because it’s all been interesting and thought provoking. Great stuff. Bob Blood .Kent England.
Another great episode 👏🏼
Keep sharing the truth and facts 👍🏼
Brilliant brilliant!!!!! Thank you!!!
Another interesting point I learned recently is that hydrogen fuel tanks have to be replaced at there expiry date of 15yrs.
Thanx Robert! Great that Fully Charged is sticking its neck out to get the real science to the public.
Hydrogen “Hopium” needs to be exposed for the malevolent ruse that it is.
Can I give you 2 thumbs up? This is now in my favourites. I will share it will all people I know.
it's self generating, as government departments round the world have budgets to 'investigate Hydrogen' and they (the civil servants) jet off round the world to Hydrogen conferences and report back to their paymasters that all is well with the world. They can't report there is no future in Hydrogen as they will loose their funding, and be out of a job, and they have family and Mortgages to support like the rest of us…
And as you say (they the civil servants) are being courted by the fossil fuel industry…Sad but oh so true.
I rest my case….
Perfect explanation of the lunacy of most of the hydrogen hype going on at the moment. Should be required viewing for all politicians, civil servants and media. Well done Prof Cebon.
Robert that was the best podcast yet, it was interesserttingly clear and educational. I may have to watch it again as I am suffering information overload, and neck ache through shaking my head in disbelief. This coalition I hope is talking to our government so we focus on the areas we can implement change quickly.
Great job – as you say more people need to watch this.