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  1. About the medicine Clothar make, it probably have no effect because it is not blessed by Nahida's power since she's been confined and at that time probably still too young to understand how to use her power. Dendro is the power based of of life so if she blessed the medicine, it might actually work.

    There's mentioned somewhere in game that Khanri'ah located at the roots of the world tree (i think it's from Enkanomiya lore). Irminsul can be considered as world tree so the fact that it is somewhere underground near Sumeru is true. Also there is Valley of Dhari and Dhari being an old name of Khanri'ah.

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  2. Would be nice to know when that memory took place, how many years after the cataclysm.

    Nahida tells us the abyss sibling suddenly appears in Khaenriah and began his/her journey with Dain after the cataclysm. Since Dain is a royal guard wouldn't that make the abyss sibling King Irmins successor? (Prince because hasn't been crowned not necessarily because there is a king currently but because there's no kingdom anymore, would be pointless to crown the next King before they finish their goal of reviving the homeland)

    Making the abyss order the succesion of khaneriah itself as well. About fontaine, we do know Khaneriah extended well beyond its place of origin, so technically they should have extended also to Fontaine at some point pre cataclysm.

    I honestly don't think Caribert made it after removing the mask. Probably jumped off that cliff or something and no we won't see him again. The scene was clearly him considering jumping off because of the pain.

    Clothar founded the abyss and probably set things in motion for the Prince to carry on the mission? Or cured himself and said ef it Im out and the Abyss sibling was chosen to carry on… possibilities are endless really there…

    I wish they'd given us more clues, now more than ever it seems that the more info they dump on us the more confused we get. XD
    Cheers from Honduras!

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  3. Am I the only one that was creeped out about the mushrooms themselves? Like, the whole quest was creepy as heck, but those red shrooms Clothar grew were from the field that contains the body of his wife. The fungi grew from soil that contained nutrients from her decayed body.
    WE FED CARIBERT HIS OWN MOM'S BODY.

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  4. Okay. But what if forbidden knowledge is what is needed to alter fate? Foreign information creating an error in the system that is Irminsul? We know forbidden knowledge is what causes the destruction of entire civilizations and even had its hand in khannrieh. If one is able to use forbidden knowledge to alter their fate by breaking the system they may be able to defy the divine control of Celestia. To add to this dendro seems to be the antithesis to this corruption. Nahida seems to not be effected by erosion and is tied to the concept of cycles. Being an avatar of Irminsul she is able to directly cleanse forbidden knowledge given enough power. She seems to be somewhat of an security system checking for viruses. All this to say there is a connection with the abyss and forbidden knowledge and how it naturally interacts with Irminsul.

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  5. I have a different theory about loom of fate and lumine's plan. We know that lumine saw the cataclysm and wants to revive the khaenri'ah nation but we dont know where all those khaenri'ahns really are . The non pure blooded ones became abyssal monsters but not all the abyssal monsters we see are people from khaenri'ah. My theory is that since khaenri'ah is canonically very close to monstad and monstad and khaenri'ah never had great relationship( gold send albedo and durin to destroy monstad) it was at venti's hand to control the situation and protect his nation from the abyssal monsters. We know that venti can " move " and " design " the earth and the mountains and the only place that was safe to lock those creatures was the spiral abyss that is a protective shield for monstad. So typically lumine wants to brake the spiral abyss and free khaenri'ahns and try to cure them

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  6. My question is where are Rah’s pure blooded people. I mean we learn that they didn’t turned into hillichruls and possessed by an immortality curse. Where are all those IMMORTAL PEOPLE? and what are they doing? Are their purpose is die in peace? If it is why Abyss sibling talked about revival of homeland previous Archon quest. What they are gonna revival? People who wants to die? In the end they’re sure effected by erosion and maybe they are still in Khaenri’ah.
    On the other hand I wonder if Caribert turned into those abyss lectors. I’m just guessing because Chlothar amazed by one of them in the quest.😅

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  7. If pure blood Khaenriahns were immortal, then almost all of its citizens were half-khaenriahns, considering how much monsters are in the wild. Not unless Celestia went full-blown Fire-nation-attack-air-nomads mode first on pure blood Khaenriahns before laying the curse of immortality on its remaining survivors….

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  8. The whole Khanri'ah being close to sumeru thing was a bit confusing because I thought it was previously mentioned that Khanri'ah was close to Mondstat, and that it was located beyond musk reef.

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  9. Khaenri'ahns have had Abyssal energy for at the very least 3200 years before the Cataclysm happened, according to the Vimana Agama quest line. Probably more like 5000 years or even more. These "dark power" cores run all the ruin machines. So it's pretty unlikely any Khaenri'ahn noble would be ignorant of the Abyss.

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  10. Well to summary the facts
    If u just focused more from beginning of the game's story quests
    You will see that siblings are seeing each others
    What i mean is
    Aether is seeing his sister acts (doing) 500 y ago (what she saws, react, did)
    And the opposite is right

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  11. Kaeya is sus, I can definitely see him being Caribert. But the only lead is the cloth on his outfit. Otherwise, I’m looking to find out exactly who he is. Also I realized the mirror was already cracked because of what that mysterious lady said when Paimon broke the glass. Makes sense that was a flashback right there. Oh one detail. Kaeya hides his other eye, yes we’ve seen it I think…but could it be so that he hides he’s half-blood 👀.

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  12. I wonder if the destruction of Kh'aenriah released abyssal energy from deep underground. Being constructed at the roots of the divine tree/Irminsul, and if Celestia completely leveled the city, any crack in the earth/roots could have released this "Abyss". In Tartag's character story its mentioned he slipped into a crack in the earth and fell INTO it. Implying it is not far under the crust of the planet of Teyvat. The inverted sky/fake sky might be another clue. For all we know, the abyss is actually just space. In reference to earth, we would be in the core, while the "abyss"/space would be outside the planet. I feel that may be possible, we've seen the power of the Archons and how much destruction they do alone, the gods in Celestia are likely even more powerful than Morax who created mountains out of spears, or Beelzebul who SPLIT miles of earth in half when fighting orobashi. Perhaps this "split" or fault in the earth predates the cataclysm or Kh'aenriah

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  13. Now i am pretty Sure that "sinner" is the first (original you call it) Albedo
    He was calling himself "sinner" cuz he was created by prohibited spell
    And Who else can posses such power if Not a mighty entity like original Albedo which can survive in those incedent in dragon spine and withstand the corruption of Durin

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  14. Id like to think that instead of king irmin, this voice could be coming from king deshret's consciousness, after all afaik he's the first "sinner", and according to the story told by the sage(?) when the god of flowers helped him with his corruptions, he was dropped to an unknown dark place and resurfaced in a form of purple ominous crystal.

    might be a reach, but idk please correct me if im remembering things wrong

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