Oil Filter Inspection.
Fleetguard oil filter versus Baldwin oil filter. Are these oil filters any good? Would you use them? Let’s open them up and see what’s inside!
Baldwin B160: https://www.zoro.com/baldwin-filters-oil-filter-spin-on-full-flow-b160/i/G1075891/
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I think I would go with the Fleetguard.💪
Dukeout goes fleetguard on this one.
This one is really close but the silicone anti drain back valve and the pleat thickness means winner is Fleet Guard.
I've always been a fan of Baldwin filters, but I think Fleetguard wins in this comparison.
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I would probably buy the cheaper one that had the cleanest threads and neat glue job. I wish I could see inside. Maybe one day we'll have a pencil "x-ray" for like $49.99. haha. Anyway Baldwin will win the flow test here. More surface area is nice. But the glue looked like a qc fail
It's ironic that the filter with the orange canister has a coil spring (Fram website! Fram website!).
For a longer maintenance interval, I would want to use the Baldwin, shorter, the Fleetguard.
It would also depend on the mileage and the number of particulates in the oil when at the end of its life.
The Fleetguard would filter better for a shorter length of time.
The "Fleetguard" is interesting for several reasons. FG date code indicates it is made by M&H Purolator in Fayetteville NC 05/2022. Construction also looks like Purolator made. But, 98.7% @ 17.6 microns, IF true, a very efficient filter. Seems too good to be true. 98.7% is absolute number (Baldwin, 98.7%@40um). Because of silicone adbv, I'd choose the FG. But, neither is a readily available filter here, so unlikely I'd use either. Thanks for vid.
Both are good filters, but I'll probably use the Fleetguard
im sure the pricing 4 both filters is in the same ballpark?filter media would dictate when i would schedule the oil change.👍thank you again whip city!🤔
Both great american made filters. Both companies are well known in the diesel industry for making heavy duty filters. I would run either one but the fleetguard wins due to the filter media. Too bad it didn't have a coil spring!
No Contest !! The FleetGuard is the clear winner: Silicone ADBV; Larger Surface Area; Microscopic View.
Baldwin STILL pays the Coil Spring penalty (shorter element with less area, and heavy cannister).
I would run the FleetGuard for 5,000 miles — and leave the Baldwins on the shelf.
I've been waiting for this one! The LF16242 is pretty close to the LF17531 I have a number of. The main differences I noticed right away are mine have a nitrile ADBV and a "button type" bypass valve at the bottom instead of the kind shown on this one. I do wish the LF17531 had the silicone ADBV as an option, though. I'll be looking forward to video on that if you get your hands on one of them.
Finally got a good look at the 2 of the brands that probably cover the most of the industrial world of engine's… Something to be said about fleet guard being the only in house filter brand owned by a diesel engine manufacturer .. On some of my old antique tractor engines though it was Baldwin, Purolator and Donaldson for the OEM preferred. But everything after the 1970s was fleet guard .
Also, I just realized, a fun but educational test at the end would be shining a light through the cores of each filter to demonstrate how open or closed the louvers are. 🙂
Both are good but the Fleetguard gets my vote. So nice of the TN viewer to send you the filter. Another good review. TFS Pete. Merri 🙂
Both really good filters. I have used Hastings/Baldwin quite a few times with no problem. My Uncles Trucking firm used Hastings/Baldwin for many years and never has an issue.
Both decent filters for 3 to 5000 miles oil change intervals.Fleetguard would probably get the nod for my money.Interestingly last year i bought a fleet guard for my Ford Falcon and it still had a nitrile rubber adbv.So they must have just recently switched over.
In Australia the Ford Falcon was in production from 1960 thru to 2016 both in 6 cylinder and V8.
Baldwin has sealant showing between the parts of the base end. Seen that on several filters now. Just now noticed or recent sloppiness??
in my area, i see alot of baldwins on farm equipment engines & hydralic systems.perhaps its a cost effective alternative to OEM filters.they cant be too bad because when farmers need their equipment to function properly, time is their advasary.farming is a very time sensitive business.down equipment can cost them thousands in crop sales.
Fleetguard is better imho…
Better filter media (thicker, composite material combining two types, longer)
Better anti drain back valve being silicone vs nitrile.
Longer pleats higher micron rating 18.7 microns etc
Also Fleetguard filter media is thicker as well.
Fleetguard is the superior oil filter 👍
Great job Pete!
Baldwin B160 is my filter I use on my pick up truck thank you for making the video. Never had problem with Baldwin. Not bashing Fleetguard but just because the filter media is woven tight doesn’t mean better filtration,but yes smaller particles it may catch but at a high restriction then Baldwin do to flow of oil flow restriction through a tighter woven media. More restriction equals less flow of oil , equals high’s oil pressure. Some one agree to disagree , it’s all subjective choose which brand you like and be happy.
That Fleetguard appears to be made by Mann and Hummell, it is most likely identical to the Wix 57060. The more correct Baldwin would be B7443, both having the same bypass pressure. I use the B7443 on two different dodge trucks and they are great. I love your videos. Im an oil filter nerd too.
There's another youtuber I was watching, his oil pressure went up around 100psi, higher when he hit the gas. They were trying to find out why it was so high and noticed the oil filter had ballooned but didn't break/explode. Have you seen that before? First time I ever saw that. It was a typical metal cannister oil filter.
If fleetguard is from Cummins, I would go for Baldwin. Filter area is king
So nice of your Special Viewer to send you this filter! YaY to Him! Another great review! 👍
I give the win to the Fleetguard because it has better media and a silicone anti-drain back valve, looks like it is made by Purolator.
The weaker bypass pressure on the FG negates a big portion of the filter media thickness. The Baldwin is going to make sure the oil flows through the media for the life of the filter. In fact, the lower bypass pressure combined with the thicker media on the FG might mean a lot of oil NOT going through the media as it nears the end of its service life. I'm a retired farmer, and I have used both brands but somehow preferred Baldwin. Just my $.02.
I don't know. I kind of think the additional surface area more than makes up for the less dense media which probably helps marginally with flow vs capacity. Fleetguard has silicone anti drain back probably useful well below freezing. Overall they seem pretty equal.
Yeah but 297,347
I was a fleet mechanic for indot and creviston trucking for decades ! seemed fleetgaurd was the the more popular filter for the mail trucks Maybe because of cost ! indot used mostly napa gold because we had an account and bought in bulk ! Baldwin is also a fleet oil filter ! never had any problems except for 1 napa gold with a cross threaded base plate !
That got ugly I'd like to see some more testing on the Fleet Guard. Both filters look pretty good and no metal shavings or excessive glue. Note Fleet Guard did supply Pete with a Data Sheet which tells a lot about the company's character
You can't go wrong with either of these two filters! Both are used in more industrial applications than anything else. I've used both on the diesel fire pump at work and never had a problem!
Jay the Florida pool pump motor repair guy. When Service Calls Longwood approved ! that was good info 2 know 👨🔧WCW
Thanks Pete
Fleetguard for the win.
Both nice average filters. Both have features I like. If you would put the Baldwin element, fleetguard antidrain back valve and Baldwin spring you would have a super filter.
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I've been running the Baldwin 160 on my LS2 corvette. One of the things I like about it is has a fair amount of media. The Baldwin should flow more of these two. I'm sure the Fleetguard is a good filter it looks like it also has more media than the PF48 used on my LS2
Can you please do a oil filter review of the K&n SO-1017 Vs Fram Ultra XG10060 they fit a 2007 Tahoe Z71, I been wondering what’s the difference🤔