With our trip to Turkey coming soon, we sit down to record this episode with Gobekli Tepe on our minds, and this leads to a discussion about the origins of civilization. What came first, the temple, or civilization? How do hunter gatherer people become farmers and ranchers?
Obviously, we don’t have the answers. But we work through our thoughts in this episode, and it will be interesting to see how much we learn, and how that will change what we think now, after we see Gobekli Tepe for ourselves.
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Fantastic podcast 🎉 I would truly love to be in this conversation 👍
I absolutely love this conversation it is truly epic k x x
What if, when the magnetic field flips it's like wiping a magnet over a tape . Maybe that or something to do with the loss of field exposed us to the sun's MF and that wipes our brains of prior memories..
I think that Commander Zander may have meant to imply that, being a tool, pi’s precision may be related to it’s tool function of defining the geometry of the entire universe. The fence around the whole universe, or there being anything there to measure at all, IS the reason for pi’s infinite precision. In order to render the simulation, you would need to know the location and status of every 2D pixel and every 3D voxel and, it seems to follow, that you’d also need to know that about every 4D temple, as well. 🥧
So watcher is actually Thunderbird 5?
Definitely My favorite podcast for sure 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I didn't necessarily think that I would have answers on the Egypt trip, but I definitely didn't expect to be even more flustered and that's what happened. Totally humbled by something I just couldn't comprehend.
I mean obviously civilization is way way way older than Gobleki Tepe. Nothing started there, it's just the oldest confirmed spot. Pretty sure all of us here agree on that
I love it Kyle,Hunter gatherers have spare time to carve monoliths . Just say they did okay where did they get the carving tools just happened across it while they were hunting and gathering how cool is that
Okay we can go with the development of astronomy but what about the Dogan and their knowledge about a star you couldn't even see without an advanced telescope
I like the timelesssssnessss assspect of thisssss show
Heads up about Turkey: The people are really nice, except for some taxi drivers, and the food is delicious. If you like meat, ask for Adana Kebab.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16paeSPUIjo
Is it possible Gobekli Tepe is a school?
I'd love to see you guys go to the Kailasa Temple in India!
Burning wood that chokes you up in your dwelling can be replaced by keeping rocks hot and not suffocating to stay warm leads to smelling. In the right area with the right geology minerals make metals that make life easier. This is a regular process that happens when the area allows. This is exponential.
Brain food.. one of My more favoured episodes. ( As a proud 11 club badge owner)
The mass amounts of labour could be mobilised, as similar to one of the Annual celebrations around Stonehenge, when the population of the whole "hunter gatherer" culture of the isles would meet for feasting, ritual and celebration ( whole load of lithic loving I bet). Its like when the Nile floods or used to, all of a sudden once a year there are thousands of surplus labour ready to be massed in one location… It would be a shame not to raise a few monuments in the time of the gathering after the priestly class have been moving sticks all year.. either after the initial party or possibly before… Before the hangover kicks in. Cheers guys 🐍🐍🐍🔯
Not going to get into the OG burning man and how the druid's would burn the criminal and corrupt in a effigy. ◼️◻️◼️◻️
To me it seems the most likely way would have been nomadic peoples following herds of animals, that one day thought of building a fence to keep them in a certain area. Once you do that everything else follows
Can’t wait until Gobekli Tepe & Kyle you are a nut sap 😅 what a grate chat catch ya’s there Snakesssss .
pressure sure changes things
Love this conversation 😊 great points at c.1 hour 30 minute mark, where a (my interpretation) non-local intelligence informs humans of creative potentials in certain plants, eg. Aya. Embrace our ignorance!
Look how fast learning and advancing ramps up over time. What have we done in the last 6000 years of somewhat known history. How many times have we had this amount of time as humans, or near humans, to do this type of thing? Whether catastrophes happen cyclically, or randomly, enough happen to set us back severely. Where will be be today if a civilization ending CME, or an comet, hits us? We are very likely echoes of what we have risen to in the past at different points. Now, there was a beginning somewhere. Who knows what that was? What will we do to try to give survivors a leg up after we get mostly wiped out?
Shumer…and beyond.
Subbed. You going fellas are going places
If you kick the can down the road long enough, eventually you will get to the first thing and maybe the it's "the word" which is mentioned in some sacred texts and might be shorthand for what modern science calls big bang since whole universe seems to follow same patterns as if it's resonating some original wave pattern from micro to macro levels. Great stuff as always guys, can't wait for your videos from Turkey trip!
I've always said that even if angels exist in the incarnation the Bible and or other texts describe them…..they are still not of this earth and would be considered Aliens. They simply exist in a different form of being.
so great, I listened to it twice – excellent convo, shared a link to it with some friends, your conversations start conversations out here, much appreciate you all!
find it really fascinating to try to delve into the psychology of our ancestors and those who first conceived ley lines and other alignments. imagining the depth of their connection to the earth and its landscape is just breathtaking. thanks for exploring these topics guys. big love from scotland.
i caught up at last!
7:55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM2K7sV-K74🤷🏼♂
Can anyone out there PLEASE tell me the name of Kyle's band? if the music im hearing at breaks is them, i'd really like to find out how to hear more-
I am pattern guy!! And also a builder, deer hunter and mountain climbing backpacker Gen-Xer. So I have spent most of my life outdoors, it's a very different perspective. Damn this is gonna need a novel lenghth e-mail.😊
Cepha!
Good to be caught up again, since my keepers have let me out of the pit long enough to view the episodes I'd missed.
Watcher prefers Anonymity? I keep telling people I'm in Witness Protection! Seems like as the Mantle of Responsibility settles on your shoulders, the value of a little solitude kinda shoves aside the attractions and pleasures of Celebrity.
Some of us are just waiting for the memory/Experience parlors to come along, like in Philip K. Dick's "We Can Remember it for you Wholesale…"
Things could really get ugly, depending on whose memories come available for a given set of events.
Perception isn't Everything, except if you trim away all the other stuff.
Love the Break Music!
Commercial inserted by YouTube selling Solar Panels, evidently with big subsidies/discounts.
I lived & Worked in Silicon Valley thru the 90s. California legislature thru mid 90s gave generous tax breaks to home owners for installing solar panels.
After year 2000, they reversed course and TAXED home owners who had taken advantage of the incentives… If I recall correctly, California Taxed them for the calculated ADDITIONAL VALUE the panels added to their homes' Market Value!
I suppose what that means is you need to consider the LONG TERM savings or benefit added to your Self Reliance.
Speaker to Botanicals must have highly-developed PATIENCE for the task.
"Do you want the treaty written in Chlorophyillic, with separate translations for Terrestrial and Aquatic Species?"
"We've received appeals from the Orchids and Bromeliads for special consideration…"
I think J.R.R. Tolkien musta had some UNUSUAL Insights into interspecies relations, to conceive of the Ents like TreeBeard, shepherds of Forests, that felt, observed, pondered, thought, conversed, and took concerted ACTION.
All That Decades before the revelations of long-interval Stop Motion Film studies showed plants attacking and maneuvering around each other for advantage and competition.
HELLO BOYZ