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Lots of helicopter footage has emerged from the Russo-Ukrainian war, including the use of anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM). Letβs explore the Russian anti-tank equipment and tactics used with helicopters.
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Baribeau, Robert (1985) Soviet Attack Helicopters and Their Implications for U.S. Army Division Operations, USCGSC, Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.
Everett-Heath, John. Soviet Helicopters β Design, Development and Tactics. Janeβs Information Group, 1988
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The Soviet Army: Operations and Tactics. Field Manual 100-2-1: Washington, D.C: Headquarters Department of the Army, 1984
β Timecodes β
00:00 β Russian Helicopters in Ukraine
01:37 β Sources
02:36 β Russian Doctrine
07:31 β Helicopters (in a nutshell)
09:58 β Anti-Tank Missiles
11:53 β Missile Guidance
14:13 β Employment
17:20 β Sponsored
19:39 β ATGM Attack
21:32 β Connecting dots
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The KA 52 seems to be the bees knees. Looks cool as well.
personally wouldnt recomend the warthog to anyone since its very overpriced while having outdated desing and manufacturing defects with its ball socket joint causing it to be not smooth but the t16000m and all its add ons are very much worth it
KA52 is a game changer. They stopped the Nato armies attacks for 5 months during the ukrainan summer offensive. Ukraine took 1 small village in an entire year of operations with full support from 40+ countries. Ka52 can easy knock out abrams and bradleys. Just look at bradley square where they killed 25+ tanks in an hour at robotny.
I am surprised that the AW249 has the sight on the nose and not abive the cabin like the Tiger.
There must be a reason if the Tiger is the only one to have the sensors there.
And there's the classic DCS multi-crew desync on full display.
WTFG as always, ED!
So we get a well informed video about Russian tactics plus a funny ad video all in once. Just keep it up!
I know I played an Apache simulator decades ago with anti-tank missions, but I feel like Stinger missiles, F-16s and Patriot Systems would make using helicopters against tanks a ridiculous risk. Not a question of if you're going to die, but when.
What is the cost of Russian helicopter ATGMs? An M-24 using ATGMs vs a Bradley with infantry support and Manpads. What is the total cost of each?
I played some Wargame: European Escalation, where I learned that you can never send helicopters into enemy territory because every building or clump of trees is a potential MANPADS site. Is this true in real-life as well?
Mi 24 never used MCLOS guided missile! 9M17P Falanga missile was used and thats SACLOS.
Russian doctrine is so far in the past.
Muscovite helicopters currently can only approach for a second the point from which they fire unguided missiles and are immediately forced to flee because they are too easy a target to hit.
As gamers the thing we used to say in the 1980's when we saw a picture of a fully loaded Apache there is 16 dead Soviet tanks. Soviet tank battalion = 2 Apaches. Good thing we never had to find out if that was true but it could be a challenge to do depending on the complexity level of the game and depicted terrain.
i'm here because of the 4th mot division
You forgot to use the zoom on the Mi-24
Chis is fantastic for historic aircraft and for technical information but I think he is mislead sometimes by our side's propaganda on the war in Ukraine. NATO governments seem to be using more disinformation than they did during the Cold War. Not to the same extent as Pravda did during the Cold War but it is hard to find out what is actually going on. One of the most important bits on information we have about the war is from the classified Pentagon documents leaked by that US airman who just got a very long prison sentence. They state that Russia is killing seven Ukrainian soldiers for every soldier they lose.
This was classified information for briefing US leaders and is probably more accurate than the narrative they are putting out in public. Also, if the Russians were missing all the time, the Ukrainians would not be constantly screaming for more equipment from us. The Russians have clearly made a lot of mistakes but it would be wrong to underestimate them. Our tanks have proven just as vulnerable to modern weapons as Russian tanks and they have a lot more tanks than we do. One should never underestimate an enemy.
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How do you hit anything that moves through these sights?
He should have talked about the newer helis like mi-35m, mi-28N/NM , ka-50 , ka-52 each one of them is far more advanced and the vihkir missile is a truly beast , it can outperform any NATO ATGM.
funny that you say the helicopters have no impact, and yet they stopped then entire giant Ukrainian counter offensive with zero losses…
Great video, Chris…π
The US Army's new Spike-NLOS for AH-64E's are able to hit 32km out..!
Nice! Well done creating a commercial that I wanted to rewatch π
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The Ka-52M can use the LMUR missile it's probably not as common as the vikhr but the LMUR has been used in the conflict and the Ka-52 played a substantial role in holding back the Ukrainian counter offensive imo it's not just nuisance attacks both side are using the lofting method as well they wouldn't if it didn't make some difference
Unrelated question, but have you ever come across Greg on DCS and who won?
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Video was good until the borked conclusion : Even used sparsely, helicopter in an area of operation represent an area interdiction asset that force to deploy AA assets and prevent ground maneuver warfare. Indeed thios would be more efficient with a flock or helicoper operating in pairs but nonetheless, this is not something that can be ignored by commanders.