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This put a smile on my face
I say go for it!! Stay strong!! ♥️
Yeah urban areas are not more successful, have you been to west virginia. This is just one party trying to grab power.
America has been around less than 300 years of the entire time mankind has been on the earth. Put that in perspective when we talk woke justice.
I don't disagree with the attempt to secede, conduct special votes, etc., etc., but efforts like these only hurt other Republicans/Conservatives/Independents in neighboring counties. I live in Central Oregon, and believe me, there are frustrated voters in every county of Oregon, not just the counties of Eastern Oregon. I'm 4th generation Oregonian with family all over the state, so I feel like I know a little in this regard. In fact, I bet the conservatives in major liberal counties of Oregon far outnumber all of Eastern Oregon combined. If say Eastern Oregon does secede and become "Greater Idaho", then all other counties left over continue to slide towards the left because of the long-held power in the largest liberal counties of Multnomah, Clackamas and Washington. That essentially makes the rest of us Conservatives one giant sacrifice. Our votes would immediately become weaker and more futile (besides maybe some local voting). You say, "well why don't you just pick up and move over to Greater Idaho along with the rest of them?" How's that fair? I love where I live just as much as anybody else in Oregon. I'm just as furious. Eastern Oregon isn't making any sacrifice in this equation. They would essentially stay put without having to make any life-altering changes in the process. They only stand to gain – gain a more palatable state government, law of the land, taxation, etc.. If you ask, "well would this effort cause a major blow to the remaining state of Oregon?" No, not really. A whopping majority of Oregonians live in the Central and Western parts of the state. Much of Eastern Oregon is a no-mans land. Sorry, but true. So this wouldn't create the sting that some might think. This would only be giving the finger to others who are like-minded, yet live in different parts of the state like myself. Come to think of it, moves like this proposed secession are rather selfish and cowardly. It only creates new problems. The only honorable thing to do would be to move to Idaho on your own accord. That, or continue influencing cultural change within the state of Oregon. It's not pointless. Look at the governor's race right now. It's surprisingly close and Dems are genuinely scared that they could lose to Christine Drazan. And I hope they do and we win for once. Oregon has leaned liberal for way too long. And lots of liberals are waking up. Portland is an obvious disaster, but it's fascinating to watch even the most staunch liberals consider change. I've thoroughly enjoyed listening to Darkhorse Podcast (Bret and Heather Weinstein). It's refreshing to hear them just as fired up and mystified as us Conservatives. The courageous thing to do is to stay and fight. Oregon was once a very balanced state, and I pray that it can be once again.
In four thousand years of history, I know of only one incident where someone in power willingly gave up that power, I can't remember which dynasty it was, but I believe it was the duke of Chou who on having been appointed the regent while the emperor was in his infancy. On the day of his appointment, as was customary, he swore the oath to return the throne to it's rightful heir on the day he reached adulthood, For the next fifteen years the duke of Chou defeated two invasions from nieghboring states, expanded the kingdom to twice it's size when he took the reins, reformed the bureaudrady and reduced crruption to an unprecedently low level, passed legislation regarding trade and businesses that quickly made the kingdom the most prosperous in china, reformed the property rights, and tax laws which allowed the peasent farmers to become prosperous and far more productive. By the end of the fifteen years his popularity had reached such a point, that the vizier urged him to sieze the throne for himself, saying that the people would welcome such a move and he would have the backing of the aristocracy as well. But on the day the king came of age, he arrived in court, bowed before his king, handed over all records of the kingdom's finances wished the young king the best of luck, asked the king's permssion to return home and left on recieving it to return to his duchy and take no further part in the affairs of the kingdom. This was the only time in four thousand years that someone held all the power in their hand and let it go without a fight. I doubt the Democrats will be so principled as to give up any scrap of power they have without a struggle, expect violence, it may not reach quite the level of civil war, but it's going to get rough for a while.
Nevada is another perfect example.
In the 2020 Gubernatorial race, every county in Nevada except two, voted Republican, yet because of Clack County(Las Vegas) and Washoe County(Reno), Nevada is a Democrat run state.
It's not "BLM protest". It's "BLM RIOTS". We've got to call it what it really is.
I really hope this is possible because it needs to happen to my state. I live in the southern most part of Illinois. Every election cycle we vote republican but we are disenfranchised by Chicago, Joliet, Champagne and other cities way north of us. For years we wanted to be our own state, then someone from Kentucky suggested that their state just buy up our counties from Springfield. We don't care much about being a commonwealth but we would rather have that (or anything else for the matter) than remain with Illinois. None of that happened, but if east Oregon can pull this off, then I wouldn't be surprised if Illinois is next.
As an Idahoan, i would very much welcome my fellow patriots in Eastern Oregon into our state. Idahoans NEED to get behind this. Our state is one of the fastest growing states in the nation right now, because we’re such a great state to live in. Do we think all the people coming here are ideologically in line with our traditional values? They’re not, for the most part. We’ll be a blue state in ten years at this rate. If we want to retain the values we hold dear and that have made us the wonderful place to live in that we are, we MUST bring these like-minded people into our fold. They are red, family-oriented farmers and ranchers just like we are, with the same values. Plus, our representation in Washington DC will increase. WE NEED TO DO THIS.
From the constitution, “New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”
City states are a problem because they then take over the Senate and get a proportionate number of Congressional seats. It's a quick way to alienate people from one another and force an issue.
let's fuckin go
If only Eastern Washington had as much sense
But the state borders had to be approved by congress in order to be admitted into the union. Furthermore congress needs to give approval in order to change borders.
Who wants to have anything to do with those demonic blue ran kid trafficking shit holes
City states, back to pre-Garibaldi Italy.
The states need an electoral college in their elections. Large urban areas skew elections on a state level.
Anybody who leaves the union entirely will be blockaded
South of Portland here.
I used to go to Portland monthly with my friends.
That all stopped around 2015.
It’s a blight.
When it comes to money, they just contact the banks and take it.
This kinda feels like it could be something that finally sets off the war……
Every Oregonian supports this. It just needs attention so we can support it
The problem is, the states controlled by liberal policies don’t really support democracy. I’m in Washington state. Same thing as in Portland or some of these other states that are run by their high density cities. A couple years ago we voted successfully to put a cap on vehicle registration. The state didn’t honor it. What does the vote mean if we really don’t have a say!?
If eastern Washington and Oregon join idaho, that will boost Idaho's HoR count and take them away from Washington and Oregon.
I'm a conservative living in Oregon, hoping for some good news in the November elections. The Democrats have ruined things bad enough over here that Republican Christine Drazan may actually have a shot at being our new governor, according to the polls.
As the folks from Seattle point out the urban centers pay more in taxes than the rural areas. they don't realize it's because the super rich live there. So they really have nothing to lose by letting us go free.
Long time Oregon resident and home owner here. Most of us have had enough with the state being run by three cities (Portland, Salem, Eugene).
I am curious HOW the people would be able to stop paying taxes though. It is automatically deducted out of your pay, it is automatically added to your payment when paying at the store, it is already added to the gas prices at the pump.
This is gonna sound odd but what if people who own land, own a business or served in any branch of military for atleast 5 year get the vote and everyone else doesn't.?
Until they do either one of those three and the country would be much more stable lol
I live on the Eastern Shore of Maryland. A few counties in Maryland carry the state. I wish the whole eastern shore of Maryland should be its own state.
Being outvoted by cities is exactly what happens all across Canada. It's the only reason a pathetic puke like Trudeau is in office.