Week 5 of Season Of The Deep drops some bombshells. Using a Hive Ghost, Ahsa is able to relay more information than previous weeks and it gets scary. The true nature of the Witness is revealed to us! It’s species, The Gardener and their hunt for the Final Shape. Drifter speaks about his love life and Ikora and Zavala speculate on the Witness.
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I'm calling it. Sloane will bite the dust. Amanda Holliday style…
Witness is not a enemy, its a vitcim. And traveler is affraid of changing reality? No wonder he keep running away.
Also this means Final Shape is real.
But theres two unknows
-Is pyramid Blade a one of keys to end?
-Will Witness build its army on Mars?
Think this has something to do with our ghosts and their personalities also
The entire thing is sacred geometry. The Veil and Strand represent vibration, the final shape is the vibration's effect on the Light in the same way vibration has an effect on water. Resonance creates a geometric shape. The final shape.
So do we have an answer for this question
What is the veil??.
The more I think about it, it makes a lot of sense. I believe that The Witness IS the first knife or at least the physical concept of what the first knife is.
Question:
Does Sloane still have the light or did her ghost die
Ok now I’m confused, is the veil darkness or another form of light? And if it’s another form of Light where did they get the darkness?
So…basically the Witness is pissed off at the Traveler because they weren't allowed to play god, to own and rewrite reality to their liking?
That, and they are willing to work with Clovis because they see the man has the same ideology as them?
What I can see here is only that the Witness has the ambition of being reality's very own creator, and is chasing after the Traveler for cuckblocking that very path to its(the Witness) ambition.
TYRANNY I SAY! TYRANNY!
I can almost guarantee that this week's mission was shoehorned into the season in reaction to backlash from the the LF campaign, and it was done hastily. Who takes some of the most significant lore in the game's history and reveals it after a mission consisting of one (1) lost sector? Any particular reason that Drifter needed Ghost fragments, or could bungo not even be bothered to make something more creative than an average, vanilla WoW fetch quest?
Zavala in the lore entry was asking the same questions that I was when I first saw the cutscene, about the logistics of a collective consciousness. Did every member of the Witness’s species willingly choose to merge their minds together, or were they forced or tricked into doing so with the Darkness’s corruption? Did they even know the concept of individuality to begin with? The larger a collective, the more it needs a hierarchy of structure in order to maintain direction, or else it would splinter off into different subgroups. There had to be at least one dictator that had the single-minded ambition that became an obsession in order to come to this. The cutscene didn’t really explain how or why they resolved to merging together into the Witness. But shouldn’t there also have been some that were against it? Maybe there’s a mastermind within the Veil that tricked them?
What if…
Not all of Witness' Species have merged together.
What if some avoided the Fusion?
Could there be some out there, of this Ur-Species?
I think that Final Shape teaser with Cayde, is in an environment projection of The Witness' home world, after being "gardenified" by The Traveler, that Eden world The Witness once knew, that gives him meaning. Same as Rhulk and his mural in the Pyramid, something to hold on to, not as a sentimental meaning but as a rememberance of what he once was and where he came from.
I think it is undoubtedly the case that those of the Witness's people who did NOT agree to merge, who probably did not agree even on what this "Final Shape" should look like, or be like were used to power the merger itself, while those who DID believe, gladly shed their skin. their lives their individuality to become this one thing, this singularity, this Gravemind to pursue and bring about their "Final Shape".
I think we will find out that we make our own purpose. The witness desired to control and conquer. I believe the Traveller stayed because our purpose has been to discover (hunter), to understand(warlock), and protect(Titan).
I really appreciate your videos. I used to watch …the other guy, be he gets super salty at times and I’ve enough salt in my world. You’re great. Keep it up.
Sooo Sloane died drifter is new titan vanguard Crow is hunter vanguard and who's that leave for warlock eris?
Ive always wondered about the hole in game cutscene about a gardians death with a coffin and a ghost , and sword on top its saint 14 talking during the entire ingame cutscene saying his mentor died but his mentor is Osiris and he is still alive right now will he die at some point?
So this could be a little bit out there so put your tinfoil hat on but what if we actually become the Winnower/s? Once we destroy the Witness do we not essentially become the what the witness species call a Winnower? We will of brought structure and balance to the gardener along with utilising the veil so essentially a Ying/Yang situation where we are using both Light and Dark to help shape/structure the universe
I think Elvis is the mastermind behind it all.
I have a theory that no-one seems to have picked up on. When Ahsa and Sloane connect, Ahsa says their minds merged using the darkness. I wonder if this is the same technique the witness used to merge its entire civilisation. If so, it could also be possible for Ahsa and Sloane to permanently connect their minds through the darkness. The merging of minds reminds me of how taken psions split apart. This is like the reverse
It does kinda make sense to want to control the traveler in some way. Considering the power the traveler has, it is basically a “nuke” in the sense that if a civilization has the light they could misuse it and cause calamity. The traveler’s presence itself is the danger possibly
After watching the cut scene im dreading that i did see this from a dataminer's channel, i though it was a a fan vid, holy cow i h8 being spoiled. Also this does not belong in season of the deep imo, this i see it fit more in light fall waduheck.
If Sloane dies this season we really need to rename lightfall into “killing off all side characters”
First Amanda last season and just watch Sloane this season.
Xur: "You have fought everything else that entered this realm. Will you fight a planet?"
Have you noticed the absence of the Vex? We still know very little about them. We know they are the only one's beside the Witness to have access to the Black Garden. We also know the veil is on Neomuna as are the Vex. We also know a renegade vex mind is hidden in the cloud ark and the cloud ark has something to do with the veil.
It makes me wonder if the Vex are more than we know as they are the ONLY alien race not to have been part of this light v dark saga.
They just seem to be in the background doing vexy things.
No one has yet been able to tell me how the worm knows these things. how does it know it? the worms of fundament are not as old as the witness's race so how does it know the truth? did the friggin traveler a silent being tell it? god bungie just keeps making one misstep after another and expecting no one to notice or care.
We the Guardians became the winnower 15:08
Hearing drifter call eris moon dust is so damn adorable
Will mara take part in any of this? Or is she still resting after the whole queensguard thing
Seen this awhile ago not really new
so was the Witness specie merge a democratic decision act or what we get as Elections nowadays. Asking for a fiend.
So basically the witness is a species of angry Karen's that are trying to destroy the life of an ex boyfriend that left when they tried to start a love triangle.
Dookiebootyfartwater is a crazy name! 😂 did anybody catch that?
Gey Evaze. Been watching since you were "Destiny Guides". Its been a pleasure to see your progression and success. You should be proud.
I can't believe their killing off drifter. 🙁
I have watched this numerous times and I still don’t understand how the light could be ruin and destruction??
Sl remember when wr first saw the witness and mega mind was our first impression? Well have any of you watched the mega mind movie?! In the movie mega mind is searching flr a purose and feels emtpy bc he has no purpose…..sound familiar 😂l
I think the light is the block of stone (light,arc,solar,void) that is both litterally and metaphorically the universe, and the darkness is the thougth that the artist has when creating his masterpiece/scolpture (darkness,stasis,strand,_____).
Light is the physical world and the darkness mental, the witness like this would be the first knife that would carve the chaotic universe in his final shape like an artist with stone into his masterpiece and vibration (strand) into water (light) creating a shape. Sorry for bad english.
Wuts the traveler doing on their planet buried, is it grown ? Wild traveler? Like a dandelion, I still don’t know what the silver wings seed is
Sloane may end up as a memorial like Cayde-6 and Holiday at the end of the season
An epiphany I just had is how reliable is the story telling of these events by Ahsa? Ahsa is supposedly a precursor to the worm gods that originated on the Krill/hive home world… how could she possibly come to k on this story? Clearly secondhand at best but who told her the story and was it agenda free? Did the traveler tell her this story? Is she the first creature it apple to since it didn’t speak the the witness’s people… was it a recruitment ploy possibly propaganda? Also as a side note did the “traveler” ever actually speak to us through the “speakers” of old then stop or was that all some type sod religious type of manipulation for power…
If every single being became an aspect on f the witness then why do we have tormentors?!
They are not disciples, they are pure beings FORMED out of darkness
Does Commander Zavala know about the other races destroyed by the witness and the hive. I seem to recall there was a race that worshiped the darkness that the Witness and the Hive destroyed.
I guess the question is would these destructive races/groups have arrived in Sol at some point regardless of if the Traveller was present or not. If so would Sol have been in a better position to defend itself.
Given the choices made by the Vex I’m inclined to say no, but that’s just my opinion.
Hey moondust…hey three eyes.
Believing that Bungie knows what it's saying and isn't drunk is a fallacy.
Guess we all forgot what Savathun said about the witness in her two lies two truths? How the witness was blessed with the light? Damn Savathun was way ahead of everything.