David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds | Lex Fridman Podcast #355



David Kipping is an astronomer at Columbia University, director of the Cool Worlds Lab, and host of the Cool Worlds YouTube channel. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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OUTLINE:
0:00 – Introduction
1:41 – Habitable exoplanets
12:01 – Alien life in our Solar System
23:51 – Starship
27:59 – James Webb Space Telescope
41:18 – Binary planets
51:34 – Exomoons and Kepler-1625b
1:05:04 – Discoveries of alien life
1:18:46 – Aliens
2:05:14 – Oort clouds
2:16:00 – Future of astronomy
2:29:15 – Alpha Centauri
2:41:33 – Kardashev scale
2:53:12 – AI and space exploration
3:10:07 – Great Filter
3:21:22 – Colonization of Mars
3:28:06 – Simulation hypothesis
3:40:18 – Advice for young people
3:44:36 – Meaning of life

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34 thoughts on “David Kipping: Alien Civilizations and Habitable Worlds | Lex Fridman Podcast #355”

  1. Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast.
    0:00 – Introduction & sponsor mentions:
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    1:41 – Habitable exoplanets
    12:01 – Alien life in our Solar System
    23:51 – Starship
    27:59 – James Webb Space Telescope
    41:18 – Binary planets
    51:34 – Exomoons and Kepler-1625b
    1:05:04 – Discoveries of alien life
    1:18:46 – Aliens
    2:05:14 – Oort clouds
    2:16:00 – Future of astronomy
    2:29:15 – Alpha Centauri
    2:41:33 – Kardashev scale
    2:53:12 – AI and space exploration
    3:10:07 – Great Filter
    3:21:22 – Colonization of Mars
    3:28:06 – Simulation hypothesis
    3:40:18 – Advice for young people
    3:44:36 – Meaning of life

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  2. LOAD OF SHITTTTT!! THERE ARE MORE THAN 450,000 HUMAN LIKE AND HUMANOID RACES OUT THERE!!! TRILLIONS OF TIMELINES AND ALFA CENTAURI HAS HUMANS ON IT AND THE CABBAL HAS COLONISED VENUS!! THESE MAINSTREAM LIARS!!!

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  3. You'll ever wondered why jupiter, mars, venus, when you look up in the sky are shinnier and brighter then a star even when its in the other side of the sun whre the earth is blocking the sunlight? so why does it still shine if the sunlight isnt reaching it?
    And why do they flicker just like all the other constellation stars? In ancient times this were known as wondering stars by the ancients. what if they are not planets at all? what if the earth truly is flat with a firmament dome above? then one would have to wonder what in the world is those so called "planets".

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  4. Binary planets: Gases and liquids would flow towards the common CG; the outside faces would be dry and Mars-like; the inner faces oceans and atmospheres (maybe only one of each). At least for a moment in time . . . Wow. PS. Thanks, and lovely.

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  5. Riveting. Mind blowing and beautiful. Inspiring.

    That said, I don't think there is a "contradiction" in that we might be at a special point in human history (end of Colonization of Mars segment, "Doomsday Problem"); if humans do exist for trillions of years, while not all generations will be as "significant" to that arc as ours, you being born into any other generation is precisely equally unlikely. "It's unlikely you would be born into the first or last generation." Right, but exactly as likely and unlikely as into any generation. More to the point, this "special period" represents hundreds of generations – not just yours or mine; there is a 'rounding' happening here. If we do wind up traversing our galaxy and beyond, we should expect perhaps tens of thousands of generations' worth of similar rounding available for generations living during or nearly during likewise unprecedented developments. Each generation will be 'unique'. And we will be relatively 'special', but not paradoxically so.

    During the "Great Filter" segment a similar error occurs, I think, when Lex is shocked at the thought that we might be uniquely "complex" – an overused term. Way too much to unpack, but this seems to hinge so much on consciousness. A couple of main problems there. 1) Perhaps alien species exhibit complexity that is unimaginable and maybe even incomprehensible to us, both unlike and 'beyond' consciousness; 2) Perhaps there is so much we don't know about so many other organisms on Earth, and we are in the first place overestimating our uniqueness here. Why not expect that all organisms on Earth will be more similar to all other Earth organisms than to any other organism on other planets? In the very least, why would we expect to be more similar in to an alien species in any significant sense than we are to, say, chimpanzees when we are so remarkably like chimpanzees in nearly every sense? Consciousness is incredible, whatever it is. But we needn't stake our entire identities on it. Even so many of our social traits and the psychologies they beget are much more about our biology than about consciousness. But we have a way of filtering so many of our experiences through the lens of consciousness, just because it's so mysterious and thus captivating for us.

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  6. Anyone that thinks Aliens are on earth or have ever been to earth is just thinking with hope, Faith, and or confirmation bias. The fact is the universe is so vast even while you are talking to David you can not come close to imaging the vastness of not only the universe but the Galaxy itself. The Milkyway is so vast that humanity has been putting out radio signals at the speed of light, Again at the speed of light and that signal has only traveled like 0.0000000000005% into the vastness of the Milkyway. it is a pin dot-sized distance in 100 years at the speed of light. What that tells us, is holy shit everything is so vast that even if Aliens could travel at the speed of light the universe is just so vast it would still take thousands to hundreds of thousands of years to reach earth. So unless Aliens can build a spaceship to the size of a planet or at least half that size traveling around the galaxy even at the speed of light just take too much time, it is so vast. One would need to be able to live on the ship for thousands of years. I personally don't like to see humanity believing in Aliens as to me it makes humanity look ignorant or so stuck on faith they will never find the real truth. I would feel more comfortable about humanity if I knew they were more like David Kipping. Intelligent enough to recognize their own biases, keeping an open mind while only allowing facts and evidence to lead their way. David would like it to be true that Aliens are out there, but since he has zero evidence of Aliens at this point in time he just said (I don't know) if we only went off the knowledge we have at this time, I would say NO! as there is no evidence to prove otherwise. If humanity was like that I would more comfortable and even feel safer. when humanity makes decisions on faith well very bad things could happen, for instance. It is okay to have a Nuclear war, all that die will live on in heaven. That would be a horrific act out of faith alone. I can come up with many real-world examples of humanity making terrible choices out of faith. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying faith is bad, religion is faith. However, I"m saying I would prefer if faith was just a small part of humanity and other things like common sense, real-world thinking, evidence, facts, and scientific discovery were the main things that lead humanity. I could then trust we would not make horrific mistakes. However, that does not seem to be the case.
    Just look at how politicians and globalists are damaging mankind with all this bullshit about man-made climate change. Fact, climate change is REAL, Fact, there is tons of real-world scientific evidence proving it is natural, The earth has been much warmer than it is now, much colder too, Fact, the earth just came out of a mini ice age from 1330-1850, of course, we are still warming from that ice age. But humanity is so corrupt in their thinking and greed they are willing to push fake facts to get the population on board with their own suffering, They want to stop the poor countries from becoming more tech advantageous like the western world as they claim it is for less C02. They want to control energy he who controls energy controls the population. Right now a large part of the population agrees with this false propaganda out of faith, faith in their own political party, and faith that the world leaders would never do something that would hurt the population.
    It is Faith, because there is tons of evidence that is not true. The only evidence the globalist have is some shitty man-made climate models created and used by scientists that are paid by the globalist. There are plenty of real honest scientists like John Christy and many more, who are not paid for by the green people. These scientists are showing real factual real-world data that C02 and climate change are okay. Here is a fact they don't tell us unless you get your data from honest scientists. The total amount of Co2 humanity has put into the world since the technical revolution is so small it can (not) even be measured. One mid-sized volcano can put more greenhouse gas into the atmosphere in one eruption than humans have in 200 years. There are tons more evidence out there showing (man-made) climate change is bull. but the population takes their word for it on faith alone. How is that not scary. Honest scientists make a great case with real-world data that climate change will (NOT) negatively affect humanity at this time and is completely natural. The earth will change over time, and humanity will change with it. Fact- the earth will go into another ice age at some point, What then, are we going to blame that on humanity. What about the other hundreds of ice ages before humanity was on the earth is that the fault of humanity as well. Believing in man-made climate change is a faith base belief. Faith in your political party, faith in your world globalist, faith the government will not hurt you, none of it comes from real honest data that is not contested. How is the fact humanity worked off of faith more than evidence and critical thinking not scary? To me humanity is the scariest thing on earth, humanity doesn't work within the realm of the real, they work off of faith? That to me is depressing and scary at the same time.

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  7. Thank you Lex for all the great work you do, but…
    The first sentence the guest said: "I think it's actually not that hard to imagine we are the only civilization in the galaxy right now" …
    There are 100 billion stars in our galaxy, so… I lost the interest in spending any of my precious time watching what this guest has to say.
    PS: I have seen REAL UFOs twice in my life, with several other witnesses.

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  8. Intelligent Design Theory is about design detection or pattern recognition. 1h:58m is entering this sphere. The ID community was here 20 years ago. Now try applying the same design detection principles to biological systems (if you are permitted).

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  9. I've enjoyed Cool Worlds for years, also love Lex, not sure what happened here, I did learn a bit but damn, felt a bit too safe to the point of uninteresting

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  10. Heres some food for thought. Are we not the earth experiencing itself? Conceiving its own existence? Since every fiber of our being comes from the dirt, wouldn't life in its entirety be the universe experiencing itself? Is consciousness a sensory of the universe?Perhaps that is why time is so vast? yet every second counts? Manifest through life itself.

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  11. Maybe we have already been taken over by an alien AI civilisation and they put us in a simulation.

    Or maybe the UFO phenomenon is an alien AI civilisation.

    Or maybe the UFO phenomenon is us that left the earth after the Younger Dryas catastrophe and we’re the survivors becoming hunter gatherer 12500 years ago.

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  12. its crazy what a useless waste of time this whole pixel detection is. 1st whatever you see stopped existing for a long time. second the job doesnt have the tools even yet. Its like trying to be a car mechanic 100 years before car invention. pointless. better do something else that has an actual result and impact.

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  13. We are here for the ride. Out of the staggering number of proton/neutron/electrons combinations, we emerged to be one of those who can understand and muse about the far future of what the universe can be, what a ride!

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  14. As I understand it when we look out into the Universe we are looking back into time . Whether it’s the Sun eight minutes ago or distant galaxies billions of years ago . So isn’t that true in reverse . That if other civilisations were looking at the Earth , depending on their distance they would be examine Earth at different points in history .
    Therefore the idea that we need to leave behind some physical evidence of our existence is not necessary our history is all ready out there .

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