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P.S.: This tier list is made considering the average skill of the Overwatch player, it's not addressed to the top 0.01%, but to the rest of 99.99%, so that's why my tier list might be a bit different from what you've seen so far from other content creators or pro players.
When playing Lucio there's no better healing than killing their dps
IMO we need a baseline increase to support survivability and then balance around that. Why? We still live in a world where a Tracer can one clip, but where flanking characters are naturally more powerful, and all DPS (even things that can one shot) have a mobility increase. We now have alpha chad beefy tanks that can dive us that also do more damage on top of it… if they want us to take duels, that is fine, but how is it possible to take a duel like this?
Tanks overall look like they are in a good spot, and the same could be said about DPS; so Support will need to change to feel good in this environment. The supports that do really well either have mobility or a survivability CD… and for the latter one whenever the survivability CD is not available they are a free pick. I would prefer a baseline HP buff (hopefully something else to the passive that is useful in combat) and then move towards shorter CDs even if the effects of the CDs themselves will need to be nerfed. This just fits better with the tempo of this new game, where every few seconds you might have a new threat to deal with.
idc about how good a support is when that shit of a matchmaking does'nt change in ow2. Thats just a joke.
Hope this is true because I'm a Lucio/Moira main 😍
I would argue in favor of Lucio in most situations because now with the passive and the DPS having speed boost he’s incredibly for dive and because there’s only one tank he doesn’t have to heal as much, the redshell/Frogger Lucio play style will be a lot stronger.
Should I get rapid discord now before overwatch 2 comes out? Or will overwatch 2 make it easier to get?
Isn’t sym a support now?
It sucks that Ana/Zen stand out the way that they do in a role with the fewest heroes when they're changing the playstyle of OW to be faster. If it remains the way it is, I'm gonna have to hope for lots of front lining to play Grandma 🙁
Why does Zen still have a shield? All healers are regenerating on their own and Sombra isn't destroying the shield-health with her ult anymore. Is there any other ability this shieldtyp has?
I expected a detailed, nuanced take on what supports are going to be good and why they should be played and was not disappointed. Very well put together, and thank you for breaking down what you expect the two main play styles to be.
I wish Ana had some sort of mobility ability. like stealth where she can camo or something.
I’m sick of mercy. Every match is mercy 76 for me. I wanna meta with no mercy
i main lucio and moira so im glad ill be decent in any team comp, im worried with the addition of sojourn and her mobility it will make playing zen and ana throw pics in alota games
Hi ML7 can you make a video about the difference between flex supports and main supports? I think a lot of people don’t really understand the difference
I'm so excited to one trick Mercy in OW2 I just wish it was 2 tanks and 1 healer instead because that just sounds more fun to me, I love solo healing. Also it's gonna be very weird not seeing a lot of the 2 CP maps ever again after playing on them for so many years.
thank God I'm in gold, there wasn't any peel before, so I'm not expecting any in the future 😀
I was thinking pharmacy would be very strong early on, even before seeing half the changes. Just from the 5v5 change, there's one less tank to hold space for the DPS while try to get a pick on mercy or pharah. Even in OW1 at lower levels, if you had dive tanks instead of shields, pharmacy could be a menace because the dps aren't gonna hit every shot (much less headshots) and a smart pharah will use cover well to just constantly stay alive then. If she's being damage boosted and a solo ashe/soldier/cass is trying to duel her, its basically a 2v1 and she can often win it.
One of my duo partners and I were planning to run pharmacy to rank up, on the assumption it would be strong.
Maybe Brig should have her stun as ultimate instead
Super helpful, even for Overwatch 1. Appreciate it.
I think Ana as a pick will be shelved for awhile on console due to this ngl, that CD extension makes it so you need to make those darts count..and controller aim is just….unless you are a xim player that will seem very intimidating, I highly suspect mercy lucio will be even more prevalent on console than PC
I'm predicting Lucio will be one of the strongest supports in OW2 purely because of his potential. Sure, you might not need speed, but a good Lucio player with good mechanics can oppress a backline uncontested. Sure if you're just playing him for speed and heals, he might be B tier, but if you have the movement and mechanics, he's easily one of the strongest heroes on the roster, as he is basically a 3rd DPS. Since OW2 is a lot more dmg heavy and less team heavy (from what we can tell), DPS are arguably the most valuable players on a team, so a Lucio being able to take that into his own hands makes him very strong.
I joke back then that brig was gonna get increase range of her shield bash if stun was going away and nothing else…i hate how right I was
Like brig needs a semi rework at this point
Her main problem is inconstant upkeep of healing and fighting long range units. Losing her stun and lower healing and lost armor effect from her ult, she's even more worst now
What I feel she needs improving
-increase her fail knock back attack range and allow her to use it twice(like how rein got 2 fire strikes now)
-remove the ammo count from her health pack or increase it by 2
-remove the shield bash skill and replace it with something else or allow her bash to give slow
– rally gives attack buff to allies and debuff to speed to enemies in range
Supports need more buffs.
My very limited play so far I've been mostly ignored as Ana and it's been great. Combine that with less shields blocking my darts and I've felt like a god
imo Moira and Lucio are strong even as "side goal" supports. dps Moira is so good now, so is Reddit Lucio
Lots of great advices and something to think about while picking your character, thanks for the video!
Mercy will be goated. A res is worth more than lamp and depending on the target, even a lot of ultimates. No other support ability will bring that much value consistently. For certain points on certain maps a swap could be good but I wouldn't want to stay on most other supports. I did overlook the passive, which is huge, because I realize that Ana is world's better when there's not a lot of enemy divers. She can take those aggressive angles now and not have to save nade for herself or retreat when it's down. But if they have more than 1 diver those abilities aren't doing anything important.
Might be a dumb question but why does he pronounce his rs as gs
WHOA. After playing the beta and trying out all the supports in different comps, these ratings make a TON of sense. There's still a lot of carry-over from OW1 regarding counters but since there's less peel, not choosing the optimal hero for the situation feels way more impactful.
If the enemy team is focusing the supports, it feels better to play Moira, Lucio, or Brig. If the supports are not being prioritized, like when your team is being more aggressive, it feels great to play Ana, Mercy, or Zen. In general, Bap feels the worst overall in the beta.
with OW2 today removing a tank and making tanks more brawly i think they should use that as an opportunity to make them less just healing bots by giving them things like shields ( not like rein ofc way weaker than what an actual tank would have and to not make double shield come back, but look at old symetra, she had a shield that she could use for herslef or to support her front line a little bit.) Shield is one exemple but i could see a support giving barriers ( like zarya ) to his allies or just armor and shield ( like brig and sym used to do ). I loved old brig because she felt so unique as a support, but now she just fell into being basic, the only thing she has that other supps dont have is a shield because her ult wont be as unique as before with teh ovverwatch 2 armor and overheatlh changes. There is also a problem that appeared in OW2 with tanks like rein being bad cuz they relied a lot on having a peeling off tank which they do not have anymore, and thats another reason to why u shoudl make support more divers and giving them more tools than just differents way of healing and dealing damage
I dont know .. I feel ike every team comp and what they are trying to run is the big thing . Right now in the beta it does feel like TDM but at the same time me personally i have come across teams where they run Brig Lucio or Brig Ana … but so far i have seen alot of Ana Lucio Zen and Bap . when i see a Moria i dont see her heal AT ALL lol . So idk i feel like its too early to tell maybe ??
I think Ana is going to be a fantastic pick early on because her sleep dart is so much more valuable in 5v5, especially as one of the few remaining CC abilities
a good buff to bap would be to make his healing grenade projectile to go straight instead of arcing
Discord Orb go a massaive buff (you are discording 1/5 of the enemy team instead of 1/6. So I'm guessing that the high level meta will be around out rotating the enem team with a lucio and deleting the discord target.
I honestly think Moira is higher than a C-tier when it comes to being a side goal
yeah, you might have 0 utility to your team, but you have a superb healing potential, which is definitly helpful if you're gonna try to save your teammates in a fight if they're focused
Moira's heal potential pressures a lot of players to switch to/ask for Ana to nade the enemy team to negate your healing for that period of time (because nade is just a big counter to Moira, that's just how it is!), let's make their supports our main goal if we have Moira and force them to go Ana, you can see how you'll be a step ahead of the enemy team
at least, these are my thoughts, I'm a console player and not even high in ranks, so I'd like if you'd give me your opinion too, we might get tps from each other! who knows
07:44 I was laughing so hard. ML7 was like "HAH! What chu gonna do??"
Ok but is genji playable in ow2? All I care about
I think Ana should be able to move faster while aiming, now that all dps move faster. You are literally standing when they are moving all over the place with their increased movement
Zen needs an escape ability. Like an ability that makes him immune to damage for 3 secs but he cant fight back. Please Just give Zen something. He's so barebones and needs an update.
In no world is Moira currently C tier. Her mobility and added pressure are only more emphasized with one less tank
Ana is s in my opinion less shield plus passive= massive antis
i feel the game is gonna be TDM when the game comes out. Lots of new players will get it and not know how to work with a team in the game. My main support players are Ana and Lucio. Don't think that'll change with me. I'm really looking forward to trying out Tankfist.
Am I the only one that thinks audio has become extremely self centred, to the point where I can't hear a Genji or pharah on top of me over the sound of my own weapon?
Also, weren't they meant to make projectiles more reliable to hit by reducing the strafing acceleration of all characters? I swear it's harder now
Maybe Zen is weak in OW2 but I think he should stay the glascannon he is. Lots of people complain about him which I understand but if he is enabled he is the GOAT. You can really see if someone is skilled when playing zenyatta. At best they should give him the ability to float.
How do i get that Lucio skin at 10:15
who the fuck is moega
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