Ogres are the Best Warhammer Race to Live As by PancreasNoWork
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Don't become a warhammer, got it. I'll be a polearm.
9:09 this is Dioginease of sinope
No you right that is the Diogenes one of the fathers of Cynicism
yo your voice sounds so satisfying, I might become addicted
Arguably the only flaw with Ogres are that they can never truly be satisfied. They will always be hungry.
But if you can handle your belly rumbling all the time, then Ogres are a pretty damn good race to live as… for Warhammer standards.
Yettis are a unit of the ogers
The Orcs and Goblins are smarter than people give them credits, capable of sailing, demand tolls to pass through their lands and even work as mercenaries (such as Ruglud's armored orcs).
Ogres are actually believed to be distant relatives of Halflings because they're immune to Chaos Corruption (unless they get it willingly) and loves to eat.
Ogres are cannibals, as in they're not shy from eating each other, and they're waging wars with each other and Orcs (especially Black Orcs).
The Pirate Ogres are Maneaters, ogre mercenaries, who got their name from Golgfag Man-eater, the most successful Ogre mercenary in the world, and who is said to have raided every nation in the Warhammer world. He's also known for having been thrown in jail alongside his mercenaries and an army of Greenskin, and months later, when the dwarfs checked up on their prisoners, they found out that Golgfag had eaten everyone except his friend Skaff (although he did eat his leg).
Ogres, my lord.
8:00 The Gnoblars generally see the possibility of being eaten by an Ogre as preferable to the near absolute certainty of being eaten by just about anything else if they didn't have a giant wall of muscle and appetite to hide behind. They're more cowardly and weaker than even other goblin subspecies, so they tend to see having the 'protection' of ogres as a fair trade for occasionally getting turned into a light snack.
It helps that Ogres don't tend to find Gnoblars to be particularly appetizing, and thus will only stoop to eating one if finding something tastier is too inconvenient.
Skrag the Slaughterer is the legendary Prophet of the Great Maw also known as the Gore-Harvester and the Maw-that-Walks is the closet to a high priest of the great maw they have
'ate humies
'ate pansies
'ate stunties
'ate lizards
'ate rats
'ate gnoblars
'ate beastmen
Not hate, ate. It was nice light third breakfast. All hail the Great Maw!
factions of warhammer:
order: high elves dwarfs lizardmen wood elves the empire bretonnia grand cathay kislev
chaos: khorne nurgle slaanesh tzeentch daemons of chaos warriors of chaos norsca beastmen skaven chaos dwarfs
death: vampire counts vampire coast tomb kings
destruction: dark elves greenskins ogre kingdoms
minor factions: dogs of war tigermen (possibly)
You overestimate the amount of weapon teams and monsters the average Skaven Clan has, the big Clans have a lot, their bigger vassal Clans have the money to buy some, but the vast majority of Skaven Clans are poor and their main weapon is their numbers, and Ogres like numerous enemies because that means more food.
There is one Ogre tribe that has a personal war with a Chaos Tribe over a big rock, both sides want to control the rock, and the Ogres wim most of the time because fat beats evil
For more from the dumb brute side of things, give Throgg a look. Troll not an ogre but is the result of giving something that strong some actual intelligence.
Pancreas also has a video on why humans are the worst to live as. It’s also very good
6:27 nah you're right, ogres are not invulnerable, hells, in the Skarsnik novel an ogre mercenary is brought down by a nightgoblin raid, granted it was a pretty big horde, but ogres, while strong are far from invincible.
edit: apparently i'm an idiot and forgot that the raiding party in question also had a troll (as the person who commented below states) , so it was less the goblins and more the regenerating monster that did it, sorry for the misinformation
8:17 the best way to describe it is a servant relationship, but with cetrain benefits, they serve the ogre, and occasionally they will get eaten, but other than that the ogres protect them. The warhammer world has many distinct variants of greenskins and Gnoblars are one of the weaker, and more cruel variants
15:59 I would highly reccomend the lorebeards stream on the great maw
Happiness for every Ogre.
I recommend Pancreas' video about Morathi (and secondarily about Fulgrim) just because of the funny sponsor… 😂
Butchers are the ogre priests. They use magic and can be prophets sometimes. But they usually just prepare food for the tribe. Skrag is a fanatic of the Maw but he doesnt do that much all things considered. Ogre love food and respect strength, the Maw is always hungry and eradicated the majority of the ogre race when it appeared, so its their god. Simple as that. There may be other implications in this relationship but ogres dont care. They made the Firemouth a god, because it is a big always active volcano, so it must feared and respected. but the vast majority dont dwell on what their gods want or how to pray.
Ogers can kill and eat skavens like we normal rat but if they get stopped wepons teams will eat them if you are skavens and have to fight ogers have a lot of infiry (skavenslaves spears are good for first)
the force of skaven you se in game is a like, never seen before force of skaven working together for an objectif without auto-destructive army with lords trying to backstab you (they do noneless if you fail enough battle, but…) the ogre dont fight regiment of skaven with ratalings guns for breakfeast ! they like, must fight one or two to time to time, but even there, the skaven againt's the ogre is never really somethings the skaven are too much fan of.
The ogre can have precious warpstone, but they dont give a shit about it, and the skaven often make deal with them to get it in xchange for a dozen of hundreds of skaven slave.
The ogre dont really care about the skaven when they do an undercity, because when they do a vermintide on them, it's free food everywhere. Rat ogre are made of ogre part by the way, and ogre fight among themself a lot for various reason, like for fun. a rat ogre is just a bigger happy meal.
The closest thing to Ogres in 40K would be the Ogryn.
Yeah the rat's have technology, and about 500 of them know how to use it. Lets be VERY generous and say 10.000 rats know how to use ratling guns and warplightning cannons and such. Spread out over an Empire in the tens of millions how often do you think the Ogres will be encountering it? And the big thing about Skaven weapons that Total War doesn't show is that Skaven weapons, more often than not, blow up in their faces and only do harm to their own side. I mean if the technology side of it is a huge deal then the Empire, Dwarfs and Cathay should be able to deal with the Ogres just as, if not more, easily than the ratmen as their technology focuses more on working and being reliable rather than just straight up damage. And if we're talking mutations like Rat ogres and stuff that Throt the Unclean creates, forget about it, an Ogre would rip a ratogre in half if it came into Melee range with 'em
You have actually seen the priests of the Great Maw. Butchers and Slaughtermasters, the mages of the ogres.
The Maw is just like the Ogres, it want food and doesn't really care about anything else. Kind of the point, really. The Ogres wouldn't be who they are if their god isn't exactly the same thing.
What does the Great Maw do? Well that's easy, eat. That's it. And the priests of The Maw are called Butchers and Slaughtermasters. The Ogres do have a second god though. A massive volcano called the Firemouth, said to be the child of the great maw and the sun, and the Firemouths priests are called Firebellies
There's another way to think about this. If you're reborn as an Ogre, you are probably one of the smartest, wisest, most disciplined, and nicest Ogres to ever live. Now you understandably have to live in an Ogre-Eat-Ogre society, which is often very literal, and you have to contend with the existential dread of living in the Warhammer Fantasy setting, and you are constantly plagued by mind-numbing hunger that only eases up after you manage to devour an entire horse and the poor bastard riding it down your throat, but you are basically Ogre Einstein, Ogre Sun Tzu, and potentially Ogre Jesus. You could have your own army of 10-foot tall gorillas listening to you just because you can get them more food if they have the good sense to listen to your advice, and if you wanted you could probably just take over the Mootlands from the Halflings and the Empire would probably see it as a bet positive, because while Ogres are ravenous monsters that will literally eat entire familes for lunch, the Halflings are assholes that are so bad that the Empire had to be strong-armed into actually saving them from a war of extermination after they kept pissing off one of the Elector Counts so much he said he'd wipe them out and burn their lands to the ground.
And as testament to this, Ogres and Halflings get along famously well due to their mutual appreciation of food and the Halflings love of getting people to fight their battles for them, and it's theorized that the two races are related somehow and may have even been part of a joint project by the Old Ones to create the perfect anti-Chaos warrior race.
And if you're born into the Blood Bowl setting of Warhammer Fantasy, being an Ogre practically guarantees you a career as a star athlete.
Butchers (hero’s) and slaughter masters (lords) are the priests of the great Maw and could take the lore of the great maw as well as the lore of heavens, death and beasts in the tabletop.
Great maw being a warpstone meteor called down by the dragon emporer of Cathay to drive away the ogres who used to live near by and were eating all the Cathay people
Downside of ogre : you are always hungry no matter how much you eat to the point that missing a meal is very painful
The difference between ogres and horrible things like greenskins & khornite warriors is you can make friends with an ogre. An ogre can be a real buddy and actually get really attached to mercenary companies. Sure if you die he'll still probably eat your body but he'll be actually sad his friend died and will dedicate his next battle and feast in your honor and memory.
As an ogre your people can be a menace sometimes but none of civilized races are going to actively try to destroy your race because despite your many flaws your people do have good qualities and are useful and don't want to destroy civilization because civilization is a source of nice things for ogres.
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About the ogres you were mentioned dressed funny.
Those are maneaters, in old editions they did not dress like the cultures they spent most time with, they dressed like their favourite preys.
An ogre dressed like a pirate? You know he put an end to many shantys.
An ogre dressed like a treasurer? You know who's been dealings with those caravans from Cathay.
An ogre dressed like a ninja (yup, that minis exists)? You know even the ogre's humongous shadow wasn't enough to save a shinobi from transitioning to snack.
Ogres didn't use to assimilate into other cultures; they used to assimilate other cultures… via their digestive trait.
Oh, and yes, they do have yetis and I cannot wait for GW to update their miniatures… a bunch of blood crazed apes milling around small trees they eradicated with their bare hands and turned into ice clubs by blowing air on them is way too cool (pun not intended) of a concept to let it die with its decades old pewter minis.
Ogres, Orks and vampires are the only ones having any fun in warhammer fantasy.
GET IN MA BELLY!
-pinnacle ogre motivation
The thing is with a human when you’re grossly overweight, you can’t move the human body is not meant to hold that much weight you will have back problems as a human. Our species is not meant to be ridiculously fat, but ogres they have the bone density and the stupidity and ignorance And sheer balls and I mean that metaphorically and maybe literally to go to war with demons and actually eat them. If you were an ogre you could eat as much as you want because your body could actually handle the weight and probably other things to such as poisons that come from species, that would normally kill another human or heck do humans might be a little more spicy and foreign but hey, you’re eating an actual demon and the best part is you have an immunity to chaos corruption gathers chaos Colts for ogres probably cause I can delegate them selves to what they’re so far between love to be an ogre and hack. If you actually want to be in shape and be a an ogre you can the feral ogres are a thing they’re not as girth. He has regular ogres but again if you wanna be an ogre with a six pack you can cause your body is built for it. I’m like very squishy, delicate human.
The Skaven usually don't have weaponry that deals with Ogres. Keep in mind that Clan Skryre is one of many clans, and if you're not Clan Skryre, you need to pay exorbitant prices for access to Skryre weaponry, and even then they might rig it to backfire on you anyway. More importantly, Clan Skryre aren't the Ogres neighbours, so they typically do not have to worry at all about their weapons teams.
Yhetees are mountain cousins of the Ogres. They're like thin, furry Ogres that use ice weapons. The Ogres have an odd relationship with them, but for the most part they tend to get along.
Gnoblars choose to serve Ogres for the most part, because nobody likes the gnoblars, even gnoblars hate gnoblars, so having the Ogres take a liking to them is what stops them from getting wiped out.
Plenty of Orcs and Goblins have interests outside of fighting, sometimes, like Grom and Gorfang Rotgut, they enjoy these more than fighting itself (though they still love fighting), the only type of Greenskin that values war above all else are Black Orcs.
There ARE priests of the Great Maw, those are literally what Butchers are, and Ogres are dedicated entirely to the Great Maw because it's what gives them an insatiable appetite. It's also why regular Ogres and theor Tyrants will take pilgrimages to the Great Maw.
I'll finish this up by listing the downsides of being an Ogre:
Someone tell this guy about 40k Orcs. They literally live the same simple life, but instead of food they have Fights, Slaughter, WAAAAGH!!!
You will never have an existential crisis, never have problems or worries. You walk into a bar, punch another customer in the teeth because you don't have enough teeth for a mushroom beer, then there's a fun fight. Afterwards you make yourself a simple weapon from the trash around you and under the command of a big and smart boss you go into an even bigger, and therefore even more fun fight. You don't care if you get killed. It's going to be fun anyway.
A lot of the ogre units in games have wildly varying costumes. If you look closely at them you can see different cultures. Maneaters, you’ve got norscans and pirates in general. Ironguts looks like someone wrapped an ogre in samurai armor. And I swear leadbelchers and ironblaster crews look like they are wearing bits of dwarf armor. But that last one might not quite be right.
Some other ppl said it already, but you have a Total War Warhammer brainrot brother. Not every Skaven Clan have a massive amount of ratlinguners or some other advanced stuff, not every clan have 50 battalions of crazy big mutans to fight. Skaven are cowards, if a 200 clanslave rats die to ogres bc they went to far into the mountains, no rat warlord would care. You don't go and poke the Ogres bc there is no point in doing so from skaven POV.